Posting Binaries in this group.

Look, there seems to be a misunderstanding of my post concerning a Nascar PCX binary posting the other day. I merely informed the original poster that this is not a binary newsgroup, and as such no binaries should be posted here. Considering that IndyCar Racing and NASCAR Racing both allow for a lot of file exchanges, as do several other racing sims and most likely those yet to come, we could use a binary newsgroup expressly for this purpose. PCX and STG files (Papyrus) are very small files and wouldn't take up much bandwidth, but they would properly be posted in a binary group. Something along the lines of alt.binaries.racing may be too broad, but it could cover a number of racing related material including these PCXs and STGs. There could be GIFs and JPGs of our favorite drivers and cars. Any comments or suggestions. I'm sure somebody out there could come up with a better group name. BTW, That DE3 car was rather nice, and as I said in my original reply, his intensions were obviously well-meant. Ralf Southard

I vote- Post Binaries here. Bob/NYC

>Subject: Re: Posting Binaries in this group. >I vote- Post Binaries here. >Bob/NYC It's not a matter of voting to post binaries HERE. If binaries are to be posted, an existing group should be designated to hold those binaries, or a new one created. It's simple netiquette. I have plenty of custom cars to post myself, but being a regular user of the newsgroups, I understand the guidelines, and try my best to stick by them. Ralf Southard

: >Subject: Re: Posting Binaries in this group. : >I vote- Post Binaries here. : >Bob/NYC : It's not a matter of voting to post binaries HERE. If binaries are to be : posted, an existing group should be designated to hold those binaries, or a : new one created. It's simple netiquette. I have plenty of custom cars to : post myself, but being a regular user of the newsgroups, I understand the : guidelines, and try my best to stick by them. Sure, there should be a dedicated binary group, but until one exists-here is fine. The traffic here is light enough. A good alternative is an ftp site and announce it here-like the '95 cars. Your choice... Bob/NYC --

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|> Look, there seems to be a misunderstanding of my post concerning a Nascar PCX |> binary posting the other day. |> |> I merely informed the original poster that this is not a binary newsgroup, and |> as such no binaries should be posted here. |> |> Considering that IndyCar Racing and NASCAR Racing both allow for a lot of file |> exchanges, as do several other racing sims and most likely those yet to come, |> we could use a binary newsgroup expressly for this purpose. |> |> PCX and STG files (Papyrus) are very small files and wouldn't take up much |> bandwidth, but they would properly be posted in a binary group. Something |> along the lines of alt.binaries.racing may be too broad, but it could cover a |> number of racing related material including these PCXs and STGs. There could |> be GIFs and JPGs of our favorite drivers and cars. |> |> Any comments or suggestions. I'm sure somebody out there could come up with a |> better group name.

When I wrote the charter for this newsgroup, I have to admit that I did not consider the problem of binaries. Ralf is correct, of course, that binaries do not really belong here. If people really feel a need for a binaries newsgroup, then we should start by creating a group in the alt hierarchy (something like alt.autos.simulators.binaries) which could then "grow up" to be a fully-fledged group one day. I doubt there is enough interest or support for splitting rec.autos.simulators yet. In the meantime, there are anonymous ftp sites that can be used for transfering binaries. -- ISSCO, University of Geneva | X400: S=afzal;OU=divsun;O=unige; 54 route des Acacias | PRMD=switch;ADMD=arcom;C=ch CH-1227 GENEVA (Switzerland) | UUCP: mcvax!cui!divsun.unige.ch!afzal Tel: +41/22/705 71 12 | FAX: +41/22/300 10 86 http://issco_www.unige.ch/ | http://issco_www.unige.ch/WebForum ``I'm not artificially intelligent, I just work that way.''

|> I vote- Post Binaries here. |> Bob/NYC No. This would be a good way to get admins to drop the newsgroup, and severely restrict its propagation. Rather, if people really want to post binaries, we should start another group, initially in the alt.* hierarchy. -- ISSCO, University of Geneva | X400: S=afzal;OU=divsun;O=unige; 54 route des Acacias | PRMD=switch;ADMD=arcom;C=ch CH-1227 GENEVA (Switzerland) | UUCP: mcvax!cui!divsun.unige.ch!afzal Tel: +41/22/705 71 12 | FAX: +41/22/300 10 86 http://issco_www.unige.ch/ | http://issco_www.unige.ch/WebForum ``I'm not artificially intelligent, I just work that way.''

>In the meantime, there are anonymous ftp sites that can be used for >transfering binaries. But, there are those (like me) whose access to ftp is curtailed by the volume of traffic on our internet links. Unless people want to see loads of "mail me..." and "me too" posts I think that either a new area, allowing binaries OR a set of mailing lists whereyou can subscribe to a particular sim and get bins for it! (this one gets my vote :] ) Max

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|> |> >In the meantime, there are anonymous ftp sites that can be used for |> >transfering binaries. |> |> But, there are those (like me) whose access to ftp is curtailed |> by the volume of traffic on our internet links. Unless people |> want to see loads of "mail me..." and "me too" posts I think |> that either a new area, allowing binaries OR a set of mailing lists |> whereyou can subscribe to a particular sim and get bins for it! |> (this one gets my vote :] ) |> Max

Most large anonymous ftp servers have mail gateways - i.e., you send mail to an address at the machine aksing for files, and they are automatically posted to you. If you see an ftp address listed, then try sending mail to the postmaster asking if they have this service. If people really want to see a binaries group, then I still think the best idea (initially) is to start an alt group. It is relatively easy to do this. -- ISSCO, University of Geneva | X400: S=afzal;OU=divsun;O=unige; 54 route des Acacias | PRMD=switch;ADMD=arcom;C=ch CH-1227 GENEVA (Switzerland) | UUCP: mcvax!cui!divsun.unige.ch!afzal Tel: +41/22/705 71 12 | FAX: +41/22/300 10 86 http://issco_www.unige.ch/ | http://issco_www.unige.ch/WebForum/ ``I'm not artificially intelligent, I just work that way.''

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> |> >In the meantime, there are anonymous ftp sites that can be used for > |> >transfering binaries.> |> But, there are those (like me) whose access to ftp is curtailed > |> by the volume of traffic on our internet links. Unless people > |> want to see loads of "mail me..." and "me too" posts I think > |> that either a new area, allowing binaries OR a set of mailing lists > |> whereyou can subscribe to a particular sim and get bins for it! > Most large anonymous ftp servers have mail gateways - i.e., you > send mail to an address at the machine aksing for files, and they > are automatically posted to you. If you see an ftp address listed, > then try sending mail to the postmaster asking if they have this service. > > If people really want to see a binaries group, then I still think the > best idea (initially) is to start an alt group. It is relatively easy > to do this.

IMHO it's just fine to post binaries in this group. The Earnhardt that was posted was the best I have gotten from anywher and it's about the 6th one I've seen. What do binaries bother anyway. If you don't like it then don't look at or read the damned post. It's that simple. Some of us don't have access to an ftp site and the news is the only was to get binaries. So until we get an alt group which is a great idea I think people should quite griping about somebody else's attempt to help their fellow racing fan by posting a very impressive car. KC