NASCAR Qualifying

Is anyone having trouble posting good qualifying times? The sim only has one qualifying lap, so on short tracks my tires are not heated up by the time the green flag drops. On cold tires, the 3000+ lb. stock car is an loose beast! Once my tires are warm, I can run speeds that would qualify near the top, but on the one qualifying lap I am consistantly near the back of the pack. -- +------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+ | BNR Inc. RTP North Carolina |USmail: 35 Davis Drive RTP, NC 27709 | +------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+

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> Is anyone having trouble posting good qualifying times? > The sim only has one qualifying lap, so on short tracks my tires are >not heated up by the time the green flag drops. On cold tires, the >3000+ lb. stock car is an loose beast! > Once my tires are warm, I can run speeds that would qualify near the >top, but on the one qualifying lap I am consistantly near the back of >the pack. > --

Don't know why we only get one lap. I'll I've qualfied at has been Bristol. I turned a 125.804 Which would give me the pole at 100% Not that I can do it everytime. Any thoughts on why no warm up lap. Gerald `[1;35;47mRainbow V 1.06 for Delphi - Test Drive

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>Don't know why we only get one lap. I'll I've qualfied at has been >Bristol. I turned a 125.804 Which would give me the pole at 100% Not >that I can do it everytime. >Any thoughts on why no warm up lap. >Gerald

The reason for this is simple -- that's how NASCAR mandates qualifying. Having been to races and qualifying, I have seen for myself that all you get is one lap. A lot of complaints I have seen about the sim are about things that are simulating REALITY. To these people, I say: If you don't want reality, use Stunts or Bill Elliott's NC. I mean, really. Also, about SVGA, kids. Yes, it is true that the SVGA eats processors for breakfast. But then if you keep up on industry news, soon we'll be seeing 686 chips and 786 chips (don't laugh, they're already built) which will make NASCAR's SVGA FLY, and I mean FLY. And this is not something five years from now, this is SOON. Until then, I really wish people would look at the SIMULATOR and not niggle around for eye-candy. IF you truly feel that if it don't look good, it don't play good, go buy a CD-I and play Burn Cycle. Ahhh. That felt better. -- T. Anthony Johns (BYU Computer Science Dept.) "Work to become, not Personal http://bert.cs.byu.edu/~zyllyx/zyllyx.html -- Alan Kulwicki IWCC http://www.webcom.com/~zyllyx/iwcc.html (1954-1993)

>Is anyone having trouble posting good qualifying times? >The sim only has one qualifying lap, so on short tracks my tires are not >heated up by the time the green flag drops. On cold tires, the 3000+ lb. >stock car is an loose beast! Welcome to Nascar... 8^) That's how they do it in real life, so I'm glad they do it that way for the game (although I would have like to have seen a "second day qualifying" option for the game). That's the reason Hoosier tires got so many poles this past season... they're stickier than the Goodyears when they're cold. Later... Steve ***************************************************************************** *****************************************************************************

>The reason for this is simple -- that's how NASCAR mandates qualifying. >Having been to races and qualifying, I have seen for myself that all you >get is one lap. A lot of complaints I have seen about the sim are about >things that are simulating REALITY. To these people, I say: If you don't >want reality, use Stunts or Bill Elliott's NC. I mean, really. Tony, are you sure about this? I recall several races this year where the drivers talked about their two qualifying laps. The most recent one was when Ted Musgrave got the pole (Martinsville?) He commented that his first lap was excellent, and his second was total crap. In fact, I think Tom Skaggs (go #6) was there and made the same comment. I attended qualifying at Rockingham in October, and the qualifying was shortened to 1 lap due to time constraints - but I don't think this is normal. I am far from an expert on the subject, though. Most people don't even get to see qualifying, let alone know all the rules about it. Any authorities out there? It's me against Tony! :-) Funny - I thought I was discussing a serious part of the SIMULATION. I understand your pain - but HEY, I'm on your side! Looking forward to IWCC. -- +------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+ | BNR Inc. RTP North Carolina |USmail: 35 Davis Drive RTP, NC 27709 | +------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+

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> >Any thoughts on why no warm up lap. > > > >Gerald > The reason for this is simple -- that's how NASCAR mandates qualifying. > Having been to races and qualifying, I have seen for myself that all >you get is one lap.

Sorry I thought you got a warm up lap. With no tracks close home I've really never been to qualifying. Been to alot of races but never made quailfying. > A lot of complaints I have seen about the sim are >about things that are simulating REALITY. To these people, I say: If >you don't want reality, use Stunts or Bill Elliott's NC. I mean, >really. No complaints from this end. A couple questions maybe, but that's what were here for, right? BTW anybody looking for a slightly used copy of Bill Elliott's NC. <G> > Also, about SVGA, kids. Yes, it is true that the SVGA eats processors > for breakfast. But then if you keep up on industry news, soon we'll be > seeing 686 chips and 786 chips (don't laugh, they're already built) >which will make NASCAR's SVGA FLY, and I mean FLY. And this is not >something five years from now, this is SOON. I bought the P-90 because that was the ultimate machine available to the public. Bought the best video card I could find after research. Alot of the reason I went with a P-90 and not a Dx was I knew Nascar would be a power hungry beast. I was hoping it would be a great sim, and it is. And yes the P-90 also runs Word Perfect well. <G> If I post a question about how to make a pentium perform better in Nascar, it's not that I'm complaining about the game. I'm simply trying to get the most performance out of my machine. Which is what racing and computers are all about. I think Nascar is great, it doesn't bother me that I have turn a few options off, and I like the fact that the game keeps the future in mind. > Until then, I really wish people would look at the SIMULATOR and not > niggle around for eye-candy. IF you truly feel that if it don't look > good, it don't play good, go buy a CD-I and play Burn Cycle. > Ahhh. That felt better. I've ran about 1,000 test laps at Bristol. <G> I feel I'm looking at the SIMULATOR a good bit. But I got to tell you there's plenty of eye caddy in the sim for me that goes along well with the reality of the game. Goodness it doesn't get a prettier that this. I mean it beats watching T.V. And I can't afford the CD-I after the P-90. <HG> Ahhh. That feels better. Gerald NASCAR SVGA: You can't make me go back `[1;36;40mRainbow V 1.06 for Delphi - Test Drive

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>Subject: Re: NASCAR Qualifying >Date: 18 Nov 1994 13:52:10 GMT >>The reason for this is simple -- that's how NASCAR mandates qualifying. >>Having been to races and qualifying, I have seen for myself that all you >>get is one lap. A lot of complaints I have seen about the sim are about >>things that are simulating REALITY. To these people, I say: If you don't >>want reality, use Stunts or Bill Elliott's NC. I mean, really. >Tony, are you sure about this? I recall several races this year where the >drivers talked about their two qualifying laps. The most recent one was

I'm pretty sure it is dependant on the track, and it seems to be the same in the sim. I know at Talladega, I get a warmup lap and 2 qualifying laps. So they must have modeled it after each individual track. +=================================================================+ | Robert Berryhill - Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz| | Plano, Tx or was that Congress? | +=================================================================+

: Is anyone having trouble posting good qualifying times? : The sim only has one qualifying lap, so on short tracks my tires are not : heated up by the time the green flag drops. On cold tires, the 3000+ lb. : stock car is an loose beast! : Once my tires are warm, I can run speeds that would qualify near the top, : but on the one qualifying lap I am consistantly near the back of the pack. --- Agreed, the qualifying can be bothersome, but it's the way it is (re: real). Just make some MASS adjustments to your race set-up for qualifying to tighten up the 'oversteer' tendencies (read: MUCH wedge for many of the tracks). Maybe knock off some stagger and add some spoiler/lower frnt. air dam if not already at max. and speed is of less importance then handling. Wheel Lock as a last tweak. I've gotten good results qualifying. My qualify runs at Atlanta generally get me a 10-15 grid position (haven't tweaked out the qual. set up totally yet, may get better but I wanted to RACE :-) surely you could understand that? ;-)) at 100% Opp.Strength. I can usually at elast keep pace after a lap or two with my current race set-up..... I can't say enough about this game :-) !!! Great! Good luck qualifying... -- Christopher Goucher Atlantic Geoscience Centre work: (902) 426-4754 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia home: (902) 865-9270 CANADA

Another tip: lower the tire pressure a pound or two. This will cause the tires to heat up a little faster.