Screw MicroProse - F1GP on the Amiga was a BIG seller for them. AFAIK the
game was developed and programmed on the Amiga. It seems quite common for
software houses to refuse to release games that would require 'too much
power' for the Amiga. Maybe if only people would upgrade their RAM and CPU
then we might see more games, but the ECS crowd are holding everything up.
gavan
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>> I have some bad news regarding F1GP 2 on the Amiga. I went to the FES >> yestererday (Wednesday) and MicroProse were there. I asked about F1GP 2 and >> the guy said they have no plans to release the Amiga version. The main >> reasons being that the PC version will involve extensive texture mapping, and >> that the Amiga is "not capable". >> The PC version release date has been postponed until July/August 1995, and >> they guy even suggested that: "you can save up for a PC by then" - I was not >> impressed! > ***MicroProse - F1GP on the Amiga was a BIG seller for them. AFAIK the >game was developed and programmed on the Amiga. It seems quite common for >software houses to refuse to release games that would require 'too much >power' for the Amiga. Maybe if only people would upgrade their RAM and CPU >then we might see more games, but the ECS crowd are holding everything up.> Remember that the PC version is doing texture mapping for the track
> and on my DX2-66 VLB I get 25 fps (the maximum possible setting). I
> got less than 10 fps on the 3000. So unless you have an Amiga with
> a 50MHZ 68040 or better and something better than ECS then you won't
> see any kind of frame rate if they bump up the detail from F1GP PC
> version.
I get at least your A3000 speed on my A1200. If you only get that
speed then you have something wrong with your A3000.
About as many as could do the same on a 20mHz 386. Ever heard of
accelerator cards?
OF COURSE IT RUNS FAST ON A 486
OF COURSE IT IS FASTER THAN ON AN A1200
THATS BECAUSE THE 486/66 IS A MUCH MORE POWERFUL PROCESSOR
THAN THE 020 IN THE A1200
You can however get more powerful processors for the A1200.
The game CAN be done on an Amiga - it just needs and Amiga with
a powerful processor.
gavan
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Hmm. Well obviously people haven't followed up on WHY the F1GP runs slower
on the amiga. It was CODED that way. The problem is that it doesn't run faster
on an A3000/A4000 than it does on the A1200 because it just wasn't coded to
take advantage of the processor. Please, this discussion is pointless.
-- Mike Bromery.
|> I have some bad news regarding F1GP 2 on the Amiga. I went to the FES
|> yestererday (Wednesday) and MicroProse were there. I asked about F1GP 2 and
|> the guy said they have no plans to release the Amiga version. The main
|> reasons being that the PC version will involve extensive texture mapping, and
|> that the Amiga is "not capable".
|>
Would it be too hard to write an Amiga version without texture mapping?
After all, do we REALLY need it??? F1GP 1 is still a really good looking
sim even though it`s all just polygons.
What really bugs me though, is that Microprose originally stated they
would release data disks for F1GP 1 containing new tracks/teams etc. Then
they said they were going to do F1GP 2 instead which would naturally
feature the latest tracks/teams etc. Now they say F1GP 2 won`t be an Amiga
game. I really hate Microprose now.
|> The PC version release date has been postponed until July/August 1995, and
|> they guy even suggested that: "you can save up for a PC by then" - I was not
|> impressed!
|>
Hell, if I`d been in your shoes, Mr. Microprose might just be getting
out of intensive care by now (joking, perhaps :-) That is the sort of
attitude from Microprose that really really makes me sick.
Maybe we should just let Microprose disappear from the Amiga scene. Sure,
they *used* to write excellent, system legal code, but now all they seem
interested in is PCs, and the odd port to the Amiga complete with zero
optimisation and little testing.
If only whoever owns the track data format would release it into the
public domain, we`d have no need of Microprose.
Hmmmmm, I`m all out of rant fuel now, and I feel so much better.
Chris
A4000/030/882 - 6/540 - It`s not a PC, it`s not a Mac, it`s great!
: Hell, if I`d been in your shoes, Mr. Microprose might just be getting
: out of intensive care by now (joking, perhaps :-) That is the sort of
: attitude from Microprose that really really makes me sick.
: Maybe we should just let Microprose disappear from the Amiga scene. Sure,
: they *used* to write excellent, system legal code, but now all they seem
: interested in is PCs, and the odd port to the Amiga complete with zero
: optimisation and little testing.
: If only whoever owns the track data format would release it into the
: public domain, we`d have no need of Microprose.
They did the same thing with Micropose Golf. This is the best golf sim, nice
undulating fairways (not flat landscapes like PGA) and more playable than
Links. It came with six courses and an 'Install New Course' program but
no new courses were released. They probably never intended to release any, it
was just a feature to print on the box.
I would love to design & release new courses for this sim. Can anyone tell
me the data structure for the courses ? Micropose even ?
Adam
>Hell, if I`d been in your shoes, Mr. Microprose might just be getting
>out of intensive care by now (joking, perhaps :-) That is the sort of
>attitude from Microprose that really really makes me sick.
>Maybe we should just let Microprose disappear from the Amiga scene. Sure,
>they *used* to write excelle
...
Microprose is a company interested in profits! If I was to pay a bunch
of programmers to write a new simulator, I'd also choose the platform
for the most likely return of my investment. Only if there was no
additional extra cost would I support the non-mainstream platforms.
It's that simple.
And about disappearing from the AMiga scene: expect EVERY company to
disappear from that "market".
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|> >Hell, if I`d been in your shoes, Mr. Microprose might just be getting |> >out of intensive care by now (joking, perhaps :-) That is the sort of |> >attitude from Microprose that really really makes me sick. |> >Maybe we should just let Microprose disappear from the Amiga scene. Sure, |> >they *used* to write excelle |> ... |> |> Microprose is a company interested in profits! If I was to pay a bunch |> of programmers to write a new simulator, I'd also choose the platform |> for the most likely return of my investment. Only if there was no |> additional extra cost would I support the non-mainstream platforms. |> It's that simple.Quoted text (12 lines)
> > OF COURSE IT RUNS FAST ON A 486 > > OF COURSE IT IS FASTER THAN ON AN A1200 > > THATS BECAUSE THE 486/66 IS A MUCH MORE POWERFUL PROCESSOR > > THAN THE 020 IN THE A1200 > > You can however get more powerful processors for the A1200. > > The game CAN be done on an Amiga - it just needs and Amiga with > > a powerful processor. > Yeah, and how many people have got such Amigas??? It's not worth > Microprose's while to go through all the effort of programming a > version when they're only likely to sell a handfull of copies.: Hell, if I`d been in your shoes, Mr. Microprose might just be getting
: out of intensive care by now (joking, perhaps :-) That is the sort of
: attitude from Microprose that really really makes me sick.
: Maybe we should just let Microprose disappear from the Amiga scene. Sure,
: they *used* to write excellent, system legal code, but now all they seem
: interested in is PCs, and the odd port to the Amiga complete with zero
: optimisation and little testing.
Well, Speed is the way to go buddy. Its commonplace any more that today's
softwares are not going to be written with older machines in mind. I think
the only way around this is "upgrade" or "switch to an intel based machine"
Even that does not signify anything. I had a 286 back in 1990. Over the last
four years I have traded it in for a 386 and that for a 486. Now I am trying
to move on to a Pentium. As far as I can see, if u don't keep up with
technology you will be left behind without any sympathy.
Anand.
