Flatout Demo Available

Latest from the developers of Rally Trophy. Downloading it now. http://www.avault.com/pcrl/demo_temp.asp?game=flatout Kyle

Kyle Roberts wrote: > Latest from the developers of Rally Trophy. Downloading it now. > > http://www.avault.com/pcrl/demo_temp.asp?game=flatout All I gotta say is: WOW!!! Most arcade fun I've had in a looooooooong time!!! And actually car handling and physics isn't THAT bad. Better than most; on par with Race Driver 2 I'd say. But the damage model is incredible!! Word is there will be a sim mode in the final too. This game is gonna be a must buy IMO.

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> > Kyle Roberts wrote: > > > Latest from the developers of Rally Trophy. Downloading it now. > > > > http://www.avault.com/pcrl/demo_temp.asp?game=flatout > > All I gotta say is: > > WOW!!! > > Most arcade fun I've had in a looooooooong time!!! And actually car > handling and physics isn't THAT bad. Better than most; on par with Race > Driver 2 I'd say. > > But the damage model is incredible!! > > Word is there will be a sim mode in the final too. > > This game is gonna be a must buy IMO.

I'm not as impressed. First, the demo doesn't work with multiple controllers. No dice with my Logitech wheel and ACT Labs pedals. I just used buttons on my wheel for brake and throttle, which probably didn't make a huge diffence since there is some kind of throttle/brake assist going on in the demo that is annoying. The camera in the behind the car views is also a little slow when taking corners and jerks a bit. I thought the courses could have been a little more imaginative. The damage and physics model screams for a track with a crossover intersection or two. The demo just didn't grab me. Sort of boring I thought. They need to dig up a copy of the original Destruction Derby for a few pointers. Kyle

> I thought the courses could have been a little more imaginative. The damage > and physics model screams for a track with a crossover intersection or two. > The demo just didn't grab me. Sort of boring I thought. They need to dig up > a copy of the original Destruction Derby for a few pointers. Full version has 'sim mode' without the throttle aid, figure 8, ragdoll bowling and demo derby course FWIW.

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> Latest from the developers of Rally Trophy. Downloading it now. > > http://www.avault.com/pcrl/demo_temp.asp?game=flatout > > Kyle > >

ROTFLMAO! First time I crashed and saw the driver go flying and yelling AHHH! Too bad there is no incar view just a front bumper like view. Great arcade fun for a change. Lou

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:45:33 -0800, "Lou" <[email hidden]> wrote something like: >ROTFLMAO! First time I crashed and saw the driver go flying and yelling >AHHH! Too bad there is no incar view just a front bumper like view. Hehe... imagine using the driver's view and flying through the windshield =) >Great arcade fun for a change. Amen :) -- - Jussi Koukku -

something like: Hehe... imagine using the driver's view and flying through the windshield =) Amen :) -- - Jussi Koukku -

> I'm not as impressed. First, the demo doesn't work with multiple > controllers. No dice with my Logitech wheel and ACT Labs pedals. I justused > buttons on my wheel for brake and throttle, which probably didn't make a > huge diffence since there is some kind of throttle/brake assist going onin > the demo that is annoying. The camera in the behind the car views is alsoa > little slow when taking corners and jerks a bit. > > I thought the courses could have been a little more imaginative. Thedamage > and physics model screams for a track with a crossover intersection ortwo. > The demo just didn't grab me. Sort of boring I thought. They need to digup > a copy of the original Destruction Derby for a few pointers. Spoken like a true nigger

I am still amazed at the poor design of input assignment of modern day racing games. How much extra work would you need to put into a project to cover *all* joystick/wheel/pedal setups??? My guess is less than 0.01% of the total development time. I tried CMR4 the other day, but were immediately put off by the sucky input setup screens. If a game developement house cannot make an input setup for my custom setup, they are not up to the task of making a racing sim worthy of my costly time. How hard can it be???? ---Asgeir--- Kyle Roberts wrote: > "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8xfid.25221$[email hidden]...<snipped>

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> > I'm not as impressed. First, the demo doesn't work with multiple > controllers. No dice with my Logitech wheel and ACT Labs pedals. I just used > buttons on my wheel for brake and throttle, which probably didn't make a > huge diffence since there is some kind of throttle/brake assist going on in > the demo that is annoying. The camera in the behind the car views is also a > little slow when taking corners and jerks a bit. > <snipped> > > Kyle > >

Why dont you take the pinecone out of your ass and make one yourself "Asgeir Nesoen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cmdnan$3gb$[email hidden]...

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> I am still amazed at the poor design of input assignment of modern day > racing games. How much extra work would you need to put into a project > to cover *all* joystick/wheel/pedal setups??? My guess is less than > 0.01% of the total development time. > > I tried CMR4 the other day, but were immediately put off by the sucky > input setup screens. If a game developement house cannot make an input > setup for my custom setup, they are not up to the task of making a > racing sim worthy of my costly time. > > How hard can it be???? > > ---Asgeir---

Lol! Excellent joke. You're suspiciously good at pretending to be the sore-arsed, bitter type. ---A--- bob wrote:

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> Why dont you take the pinecone out of your ass and make one yourself > > "Asgeir Nesoen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cmdnan$3gb$[email hidden]... > >>I am still amazed at the poor design of input assignment of modern day >>racing games. How much extra work would you need to put into a project >>to cover *all* joystick/wheel/pedal setups??? My guess is less than >>0.01% of the total development time. >> >>I tried CMR4 the other day, but were immediately put off by the sucky >>input setup screens. If a game developement house cannot make an input >>setup for my custom setup, they are not up to the task of making a >>racing sim worthy of my costly time. >> >>How hard can it be???? >> >>---Asgeir--- > > >

> Full version has 'sim mode' without the throttle aid, figure 8, ragdoll > bowling and demo derby course FWIW. Correction. Seems the full PC version in Pro mode still has this traction control aid active. Lame. This game has loads of potential as a decent simish racer but the throttle limiter thing keeps it way on the arcade side. Arg.

(*&! off and don't come back here if you make comments like that. Marc > > Spoken like a true nigger > >

>"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote > Hehe... imagine using the driver's view and flying through the > windshield =) You had that in some bike sim... back in the days. It was fun. You had to run back to your bike. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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>> Hehe... imagine using the driver's view and flying through the >> windshield =) > > > You had that in some bike sim... back in the days. It was fun. You had > to run back to your bike. >

Road Rash ? Fantastic.

>> You had that in some bike sim... back in the days. It was fun. You had >> to run back to your bike. >> > Road Rash ? > Fantastic. And before you shout "that wasn't a sim"...what other bike game could you kick your opponents off their machines ?

>"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote > And before you shout "that wasn't a sim"...what other bike game could you > kick your opponents off their machines ? Road Rash 2? Eh. There was this game also, for the PC and Sega Genesis, based on the Road Rash engine, where you were rollerskating instead and you could kick/punch your opponents. It was pretty nice for the time, you needed basically to attach yourself to the rear bumpers of cars. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:10:56 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> scribbled:

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>Road Rash 2? > >Eh. > >There was this game also, for the PC and Sega Genesis, based on the Road >Rash engine, where you were rollerskating instead and you could kick/punch >your opponents. It was pretty nice for the time, you needed basically to >attach yourself to the rear bumpers of cars.

Ah yes, Skitchin' for the Sega Genesis! Get it? Skate... hitching? Skitchin'! Totally rad, man. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8143981796&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Not my auction, just sticking it in here in case someone wants to read the description and see the box pic. Some games, I just don't miss. -Slash -- "Ebert Victorious" -The Onion

"Destroy" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:GeWid.25278$[email hidden]... >> Full version has 'sim mode' without the throttle aid, figure 8, ragdoll >> bowling and demo derby course FWIW. > > Correction. Seems the full PC version in Pro mode still has this traction > control aid active. Lame. Yep. It is unlockable, though. But I don't know when one can unlock it. The driving model that prohibits me from actually driving the car in corners is so unmotivating that I think one day of the game was enough for me. I'm happy that I bought it, though. Flatout is a game that one can enjoy in tiny chunks, and the damage modeling&nitro system sure is fun, untill you actually do need to try to race the car. And because it is Finnish :) -- Mika Takala

> Yep. It is unlockable, though. But I don't know when one can unlock it. > > The driving model that prohibits me from actually driving the car in corners > is so unmotivating that I think one day of the game was enough for me. Don't give up yet. True sim mode in FlatOut is already here...almost.... http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=184886