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F1GP Canadian circuit

8 posts by 7 people · 13 Jun 1994 (approx.) - 19 Jun 1994 (approx.)

Imar de Vries 13 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296836
As I was practising the Canadian circuit, I noticed that the first chicane (after the left-right combination, just past the start-finish line) could be taken in high 4th, low 5th gear. This appears to be much faster than the cars did in actual race, although I'm not sure. Any comments? -- Department of Computational Science, University of Utrecht, the Netherlands. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Errormanager earth.err : Cannot recover from earlier errors, terminating life.
Anan 13 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296843
This is right. I noticed the samething from the in-car camera during the Canadian GP. The left turn leading to the first gear right hander after the start finish line was taken in 2nd gear in the real race whereas you can scream past it in 6th cutting down to 2nd as you approach the right hander in F1GP. The first chicane that comes up can be taken in 4th or 5th depending upon your setup as you mentioned. Maybe there were some changes made to the circuit after the game came out. Not sure... Anand.
Pasi P Ahopel 14 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296846
<Stuff deleted> : This is right. I noticed the samething from the in-car camera during the : Canadian GP. The left turn leading to the first gear right hander after the : start finish line was taken in 2nd gear in the real race whereas you can : scream past it in 6th cutting down to 2nd as you approach the right hander in : F1GP. The first chicane that comes up can be taken in 4th or 5th depending : upon your setup as you mentioned. Maybe there were some changes made to the : circuit after the game came out. Not sure... The first left hander looked much steeper from aerial shots than it is in F1GP, maybe they've changed that (more run off area and slower turn = safer). I usually take the chicane after that left-right thing flat out on 6th gear. Aren't chicanes normally used to slow down the traffic;-) It can be done with D- or Q-tires and correct setup. If tank is full (beginning of 100% race) I'll take it on 5th gear. : Anand.
Oliver Rober 14 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296852
It is not the gear that actually matters, as you may be using completely different gear ratios to the real life cars - it is the speed that is important. However, I think a part of the circuit before that chicane has been changed to slow cars down. I not sure if this is the part of circuit in question, but Martin Brundle did get some changes made to the circuit. ******************************************************************************** * Oliver Roberts | //// Amiga 600 |##### F1GP-Ed ##### * * (1st Year Comp Sci Student) | //// 2Mb Chip Ram | Customize F1GP/WC * * | \\\X/// Kickstart 37.350| Aminet: game/misc/ * ********************************************************************************
Keith Wats 14 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296854
Quoted text (8 lines)|> > |> >As I was practising the Canadian circuit, I noticed that the first chicane |> >(after the left-right combination, just past the start-finish line) could be |> >taken in high 4th, low 5th gear. This appears to be much faster than the cars |> >did in actual race, although I'm not sure. Any comments? |> ... Maybe there were some changes made to the |> circuit after the game came out. Not sure...
Yes, the circuit was changed before the race. The additional chicane was added to reduce the speed in the following turn. Following the deaths of Senna and Ratzenberger (sp?) the drivers have been requesting changes to circuits to make them safer. -- Mentor Graphics Corporation (Wilsonville, OR) 87 VW GTI 16V 85 VW Golf #32 - Conference Production H
Oliver Rober 15 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296859
Quoted text (12 lines)> >As I was practising the Canadian circuit, I noticed that the first chicane > >(after the left-right combination, just past the start-finish line) could be > >taken in high 4th, low 5th gear. This appears to be much faster than the cars > >did in actual race, although I'm not sure. Any comments? > This is right. I noticed the samething from the in-car camera during the > Canadian GP. The left turn leading to the first gear right hander after the > start finish line was taken in 2nd gear in the real race whereas you can > scream past it in 6th cutting down to 2nd as you approach the right hander in > F1GP. The first chicane that comes up can be taken in 4th or 5th depending > upon your setup as you mentioned. Maybe there were some changes made to the > circuit after the game came out. Not sure...
The circuit was in fact changed this year. An extra chicane was put it to slow cars down, for safety reasons. ******************************************************************************** * Oliver Roberts | //// Amiga 600 |##### F1GP-Ed ##### * * (1st Year Comp Sci Student) | //// 2Mb Chip Ram | Customize F1GP/WC * * | \\\X/// Kickstart 37.350| Aminet: game/misc/ * ********************************************************************************
David P Gym 15 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296860
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [... Yes, but that's a little _before_ the start/finish straight. The chicane in question is a little _after_ it. It's possible that the circuit has changed since the game was put together, of course. Another thing to remember is that the cars are now running with significantly less downforce than those modeled in the game, so some corners will be much slower (lap times are maybe 6 seconds down on those in achievable in the game). My little brother has also observed some differences between the circuits on the Amiga and PC versions. [BTW, that new chicane looks a lot better than the one they added in Spain, which looked downright evil to me!] Waiting eagerly for F1GP v2 (and ready to buy a 486 if it needs it!), - -- Dave G. << Victim of the Clone Wars >> PGP key ID: 0xF2F27CED PGP key fingerprint: BE 23 6B 9C BF A9 FA 71 6A 00 14 25 26 B2 18 70 For my on-line acc't (faster reply, less secure) PGP key ID: 0xbf989a3b fingerprint: 82 AA CC FB 9D 0E 49 A3 EE F5 68 92 F5 D3 2B EF - -- Dave Gymer | ``Lawyers - they just take money off you for 5 Randolph Close | "considering" your position. I can consider my Maldon, Essex | own position over a pie and a pint.'' -- pkh CM9 6XP, England | THIS IS AN UNLICENSED .SIGNATURE QUOTE! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3custom iQCVAgUBLf8Q+YPqds2/mJo7AQHsIgP+MmHNljEJRt4Vtor4o9zlvxyKKu7jX7Fp 5q5k1gFX/XrDaP9Uf4RcofjRgCuZgXW+A/JWon+5fIntmXVp1cS9D4qR8hHfLR1E xXwuVdsCpMYbv7qqvoXQNfJ8xvym6kfinWUJUnitoQ/nwbu3OYEhgkPd9gm0EZma GX10JDhdqJQ= =Yood -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Gareth Marlo 19 Jun 1994 (approx.)#296909
Hi, despite the other postings, what you say is correct, **and** it DOESN'T have anything to do with Martin Brundle's recently designed temporary chicane. I think that the game is, and has always been incorrect, in that MPS need some way of fiddling the circuits such that the lap times are correct, and this is one of them. Cheers, Gareth Marlow

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