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AutoBraking Editor WCF1

8 posts by 5 people · 20 Apr 1994 (approx.) - 29 Apr 1994 (approx.)

philip t gandert 20 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296301
I notice that there are editors for World Circuit that appear to allow users to alter facets of the simulation. I'm new to this group and the simulation, but I wonder if there is a way to alter the AutoBraking so as to brake later. ANother possibility would be to have the braking on a separate key (not the joystick). Thanks phil ganderton
Paul Smy 20 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296302
Of course, one way to solve this problem is to alter your OWN setups so that you have to brake earlier... e.g. by putting your brake balance way forward. I'm pretty certain that it's possible to totally match the computer cars' performances with your car, using WCF1GP.EXE and F1ED.EXE, together with altering your own setups. So it's not a problem, really. --- _________________________________________________________________ Paul Smyth, Dept of Medical BioPhysics, University of Manchester. _________________________________________________________________
Max Beha 21 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296305
>Of course, one way to solve this problem is to alter your OWN setups so that >you have to brake earlier... e.g. by putting your brake balance way forward. That's something I've been wondering about.... Brake Balance.... I've seen a couple of hint files with "good" setups for WC cars but what bugged me was that the brake balance was set to the REAR! Now from what I read in the manual it suggests that due to the weight transfer caused by braking of more weight on the front wheels there should be more brake power to the front... thus I've always set brake balance to the front. Puzzling.... -- Max Behara Molly: "DS+MC" Bt+W C 1.2 X+++ L W C+++ I+++ T+ H+ S++ V+ P- "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore - Have modem, will surf. -
Paul Smy 21 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296306
Too right!! I've thought long and hard about this, and it just doesn't make sense AT ALL! When the brakes are set to the rear, it's very easy to lose control of the car completely under braking, as you see to lose the back end of the car- just as one would expect with a very forward setting- it looks as though they've just got it the wrong way around. Looks like even a minor (or major) deity such as Geoff Crammond can make mistakes... --- _________________________________________________________________ Paul Smyth, Dept of Medical BioPhysics, University of Manchester. _________________________________________________________________
Peter Burke 21 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296311
writes: writes: >> I notice that there are editors for World Circuit that appear to >>allow users to alter facets of the simulation. I'm new to this group and >>the simulation, but I wonder if there is a way to alter the AutoBraking so >>as to brake later. ANother possibility would be to have the braking on a >>separate key (not the joystick). >Of course, one way to solve this problem is to alter your OWN setups so that >you have to brake earlier... e.g. by putting your brake balance way forward. > I'm pretty certain that it's possible to totally match the >computer cars' performances with your car, using WCF1GP.EXE and F1ED.EXE, >together with altering your own setups. The new "tire grip" editor allows you to improve the braking of the computer cars to a degree that will match your own braking - you won't be able to pass at every corner anymore. It's called WCF1GP.zip and can be ftp'd from didnt.doit.wisc.edu along with all the other editors. You should be able to create computer cars that's kick your ***in every respect, not just horsepower. Peter
Paul Smy 22 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296313
In my experience, it doesn't have quite enough effect, though. In order to get the computer cars braking late enough, their grip is so great everywhere else that they're much quicker than you all over the rest of the course- so the only way to match BOTH braking distances AND cornering speeds is to increase your own braking distances. I think! --- _________________________________________________________________ Paul Smyth, Dept of Medical BioPhysics, University of Manchester. _________________________________________________________________
Julian Bo 28 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296352
Quoted text (9 lines)>>I've seen a couple of hint files with "good" setups for WC cars but what >>bugged me was that the brake balance was set to the REAR! >>Puzzling.... > Too right!! I've thought long and hard about this, and it just doesn't make sense >AT ALL! When the brakes are set to the rear, it's very easy to lose control of the car completely >under braking, as you see to lose the back end of the car- just as one would expect with a very > forward setting- it looks as though they've just got it the wrong way around. Looks like even a >minor (or major) deity such as Geoff Crammond can make mistakes...
There is no doubt that the car is much more controllable and you can brake later with the brakes set to the rear - my brother still believes the manual, but he is slowly coming around as I outbrake him more often than not :) I have known this for almost a year, but not thought it to be a bug - but I guess it is not the way it should be. I ride a motorbike, and all heavy braking is done with the front due to wait transfer (the back brake is useless when the rear whell is in the air :) -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BTW, I did have someone elses opinions, but I lost them :( So these are my own!!
Max Beha 29 Apr 1994 (approx.)#296358
Quoted text (16 lines)>>>I've seen a couple of hint files with "good" setups for WC cars but what >>>bugged me was that the brake balance was set to the REAR! >>>Puzzling.... >> Too right!! I've thought long and hard about this, and it just doesn't make sense >>AT ALL! When the brakes are set to the rear, it's very easy to lose control of the car completely >>under braking, as you see to lose the back end of the car- just as one would expect with a very >> forward setting- it looks as though they've just got it the wrong way around. Looks like even a >>minor (or major) deity such as Geoff Crammond can make mistakes... >There is no doubt that the car is much more controllable and you can >brake later with the brakes set to the rear - my brother still believes >the manual, but he is slowly coming around as I outbrake him more often >than not :) >I have known this for almost a year, but not thought it to be a bug - but >I guess it is not the way it should be. I ride a motorbike, and all >heavy braking is done with the front due to wait transfer (the back >brake is useless when the rear whell is in the air :)
Yes, I've run my latest race with rear brake balance and it was amazing how beautifully it braked. Especially while turning. I'd given that up as a bad idea until now. It's GOT to be a BUG! The front brakes do all the work. Many cars have good strong disk front brakes but piddly drum rear brakes because of it. Strange that the bug wasn't fixed in either the 1.04 or 1.05 patch though. -- Max Behara Molly: "DS+MC" Bt+W C 1.2 X+++ L W C+++ I+++ T+ H+ S++ V+ P- "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore - Have modem, will surf. -

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