Is this game sim or arcade?

I just bought an Xbox360 and this bike game coming out called "MotoGP 06" has me excited but I'm wondering if any one here has played the previous game in the series and is it more of a sim or an arcade game. Graphics are sure nice but if it is an arcade racer then I won't buy it. I tried that Project Gotham 3 on the 360 and I thought it was crap. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/motogpurt/news.html?sid=6146478

Enos Nivek <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> I just bought an Xbox360 and this bike game coming out called "MotoGP > 06" has me excited but I'm wondering if any one here has played the > previous game in the series and is it more of a sim or an arcade game. > Graphics are sure nice but if it is an arcade racer then I won't buy > it. I tried that Project Gotham 3 on the 360 and I thought it was > crap. > > > http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/motogpurt/news.html?sid=6146478 >

The MotoGP games are very good. Pretty realistic and playing the game with no assists is quite challenging. MotoGP 2 was anyway. The best bike racing games to date IMO, although I havent played TT Superbikes which is supposed to be good. MotoGP on Xbox is a seperate game to the Namco games on the PS2. PGR 3 is quite good, but it's not sim and not supposed to be.

>I just bought an Xbox360 and this bike game coming out called "MotoGP > 06" has me excited but I'm wondering if any one here has played the > previous game in the series and is it more of a sim or an arcade game. > Graphics are sure nice but if it is an arcade racer then I won't buy > it. I tried that Project Gotham 3 on the 360 and I thought it was > crap. The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very realistic. A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously.

Steve Simpson wrote: > The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very realistic. > A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. Quit ragging on Toca. Toca 3 is EASILY the most realistic racing simulation produced to date.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | | Steve Simpson wrote: | | > The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very realistic. | > A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. | | Quit ragging on Toca. | | Toca 3 is EASILY the most realistic racing simulation produced to date. | Wow! And here we are, way past that special day in April. Alanb

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>> The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very >> realistic. >> A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. > > Quit ragging on Toca. > > Toca 3 is EASILY the most realistic racing simulation produced to date.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Toca *3* - It's probably the greatest simulation the world will ever see.

"NSR is the finest racing simulation bar none." - August 24, 2005 So Toca 3 has surpassed NSR in your estimation? Wow....does that qualify as a compliment and would the authors of TOCA3 be happy to hear that?

On 22 Apr 2006 19:34:21 GMT, FooAtari <[email hidden]> wrote: >The MotoGP games are very good. Pretty realistic and playing the game >with no assists is quite challenging. MotoGP 2 was anyway. The best >bike racing games to date IMO, although I havent played TT Superbikes >which is supposed to be good. MotoGP on Xbox is a seperate game to the >Namco games on the PS2. OK, thx. I'll try the demo before I decide to buy it or not. I like Superbike 2001 on the PC and if it's at least as good as that then I would buy it. >PGR 3 is quite good, but it's not sim and not supposed to be. I might like it if I had a wheel and pedals for the 360 but with a gamepad it just felt too artificial and I didn't like the short 4 lap races either. I rented PGR3 so it's not like I wasted much money on it. I think a motorbike racing game might work better with a gamepad than a car racing game.

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 08:57:00 +1000, "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very realistic. >A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. > >Hmmm, I didn't care for Toca2 much but it wasn't all bad. How would you compare this MotoGP series to Superbike 2001 on the PC?

>>The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very realistic. >>A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. >> >> > Hmmm, I didn't care for Toca2 much but it wasn't all bad. How would > you compare this MotoGP series to Superbike 2001 on the PC? It's probably a bit better than SB2001 but that's not really saying much.

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:50:44 +1000, "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's probably a bit better than SB2001 but that's not really saying much. >Good enough for me.

Enos Nivek <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > OK, thx. I'll try the demo before I decide to buy it or not. I like > Superbike 2001 on the PC and if it's at least as good as that then I > would buy it. MotoGP 2006 isnt due until June. So you will looking at getting MotoGP 3 at the moment. I would just wait for the 360 version now though. > > I might like it if I had a wheel and pedals for the 360 but with a > gamepad it just felt too artificial and I didn't like the short 4 lap > races either. I rented PGR3 so it's not like I wasted much money on > it. I think a motorbike racing game might work better with a gamepad > than a car racing game. PGR 2 is made with the pad in mind. I have a while for my Xbox for Forza. I was faster with the wheel in Forza, but in PGR2 I coldnt get near my best time with the pad when playing with a wheel. I would guess its the same with PGR 3. It has proper wheel support from an update, but the 360 has no support for FFB which is pretty crap.

the greatest sim in the known universe :) -- Steve H "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:444ae6f7$[email hidden]... >>> The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very >>> realistic. >>> A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. >> >> Quit ragging on Toca. >> >> Toca 3 is EASILY the most realistic racing simulation produced to date. > > Oh yeah, I forgot about Toca *3* - It's probably the greatest simulation > the world will ever see. > >

"Enos Nivek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >I just bought an Xbox360 and this bike game coming out called "MotoGP > 06" has me excited but I'm wondering if any one here has played the > previous game in the series and is it more of a sim or an arcade game. Everything made for a console is arcade. Martin.

> Everything made for a console is arcade. Except Richard Burns Rally which is just as hardcore as the PC version.

Except Richard Burns Rally which is just as *** as the PC version.

Forza is okay. Steve Simpson wrote: >> Everything made for a console is arcade. > > Except Richard Burns Rally which is just as hardcore as the PC version. > >

> Forza is okay. ..ish

"Marni" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:444c06b9$0$176 $[email hidden]: > > Everything made for a console is arcade. > > Martin. > Bit eliteist(sp) while there are probably none as realistic as the like of GTR and GPL. Games like Forza, MotoGP: URT and GT4 are not arcade in the way that Ridge Racer or Sega Rally are, those are arcade games to me. The likes of forza are games that feel realistic but the physics are not completely accurate and the handling is forgiving.

> Bit eliteist(sp) while there are probably none as realistic as the like > of > GTR and GPL. Games like Forza, MotoGP: URT and GT4 are not arcade in the > way that Ridge Racer or Sega Rally are, those are arcade games to me. The > likes of forza are games that feel realistic but the physics are not > completely accurate and the handling is forgiving. To be honest, I have more respect for the likes of Ridge Racer, Sega Rally etc because they don't pretend to be something they're not. Games like GT4 which manage to convice 'Average Joe' that he's driving a fully realistic simulation are a blight on sim racing IMO.

> Toca 3 is EASILY the most realistic racing simulation produced to date. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Steve Simpson wrote: > >> The MotoGP series pretends to be sims but they're just not very >> realistic. >> A bit like the Toca games. Fun, but not to be taken seriously. > > Quit ragging on Toca. > > Toca 3 is EASILY the most realistic racing simulation produced to date. >

"Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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>> Bit eliteist(sp) while there are probably none as realistic as the >> like of >> GTR and GPL. Games like Forza, MotoGP: URT and GT4 are not arcade in >> the way that Ridge Racer or Sega Rally are, those are arcade games to >> me. The likes of forza are games that feel realistic but the physics >> are not completely accurate and the handling is forgiving. > > To be honest, I have more respect for the likes of Ridge Racer, Sega > Rally etc because they don't pretend to be something they're not. > Games like GT4 which manage to convice 'Average Joe' that he's driving > a fully realistic simulation are a blight on sim racing IMO. >

Perhps, until now, it has been because they are running on consoles rather than PC's? I also think that unfortunatly there is not a big market for a GTR game, although I wish there was...

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:59:10 +0200, "Marni" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Everything made for a console is arcade. > >Martin. So I'm finding out.