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Couple of GPL issues

17 posts by 5 people · 06 Nov 2003 10:18 UTC - 09 Nov 2003 08:57 UTC

Richard III 06 Nov 2003 10:18 UTC#293734
What must I add to the core.ini file to correct the replay error message when having 1gb of ram installed? Is there a known issue with R9800pro/CAT 3.7 drivers? I can play in software mode (after limiting available ram to 512mb) but not D3D, this in Win98. I've had a couple of games not detect I have a D3D primary card in Win98 but they were fine in XP so maybe it's the same issue and I should install GPL to XP.
"Richard III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> What must I add to the core.ini file to correct the replay error > message when having 1gb of ram installed? Is there a known issue with > R9800pro/CAT 3.7 drivers? I can play in software mode (after limiting > available ram to 512mb) but not D3D, this in Win98. I've had a couple > of games not detect I have a D3D primary card in Win98 but they were > fine in XP so maybe it's the same issue and I should install GPL to > XP.
In the core.ini you add the following: [ Replay ] ReplayMemoryOverride = 131072 The value is in Kb, so increase it if you want gpl to use more, decrease it if you want to use less (unlikely with 1Gb RAM). Windows 98 has a separate issue where it can only cache up to 512Mb RAM and any extra will actually cause a noticeable performance drop apparently. I believe the way round this is to add the following line to your system.ini: [vcache] MaxFileCache=524288 I've never had more than 512Mb though so I've never used it myself, and I think it limits win98 to 512Mb, making the extra RAM useless unless you have a dual boot system with another OS (win2k/XP etc) that can use the extra RAM. Malc.
On this day of our lord Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:51:23 -0000, "Malc" <[email hidden]> scribed:
Quoted text (7 lines)>In the core.ini you add the following: > >[ Replay ] >ReplayMemoryOverride = 131072 > >The value is in Kb, so increase it if you want gpl to use more, decrease >it if you want to use less (unlikely with 1Gb RAM).
Done. Thx.
Quoted text (14 lines)>Windows 98 has a separate issue where it can only cache up to 512Mb RAM >and any extra will actually cause a noticeable performance drop >apparently. > >I believe the way round this is to add the following line to your >system.ini: > >[vcache] >MaxFileCache=524288 > >I've never had more than 512Mb though so I've never used it myself, and I >think it limits win98 to 512Mb, making the extra RAM useless unless you >have a dual boot system with another OS (win2k/XP etc) that can use the >extra RAM.
I already have my Vcache limited so it is not an issue. And Win98 can use more than 512mb, it's not wasted. That setting just stops Vcache from stealing all of your ram when you have more than 512mb installed. Now to get to the bottom of the R9800pro issue.
"Richard III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I already have my Vcache limited so it is not an issue. And Win98 can > use more than 512mb, it's not wasted. That setting just stops Vcache > from stealing all of your ram when you have more than 512mb installed. Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure having never had that combination myself ;-) > Now to get to the bottom of the R9800pro issue. Can't help with that, I can only suggest a search on racesimcentral if you haven't done so already. gpl runs fine on XP, but you may have problems with corrupted sound. Since gpl has no registry hooks, you can just try copying the entire sierra folder and running gpl.exe from WinXP to see if you prefer it. You could just run the original install, but you'd probably have to re-calibrate your controller in gpl each time you swapped OS's. Malc.
Richard III <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Now to get to the bottom of the R9800pro issue. Just for openeners, what kind of motherboard do you have? Is it fairly new or as old as your OS. I have win98se...as most of the regulars here know, but after getting a R9800np, I had some programs that had graphic glitches and my desktop was a mess. Little straggly lines left over whenever I moved an icon or opened a window..and the desktop text was truncated which made it very difficult to read quickly. After getting a relatively modern motherboard(Abit N7 with the nforce2 chipset...ironically by Nvidia), all those graphic problems went away. Others here and on racesim central will also verify that older motherboards do not work well with the last two generations of Radi.(Radeons?) dave henrie
On this day of our lord Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:32:45 -0000, "Malc" <[email hidden]> scribed: >Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure having never had that >combination myself ;-) NP. I was just given this info in another group. Win98 can use up to 1gb of ram with no issues. After 1gb it may be a problem. Read this url. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304943 >Can't help with that, I can only suggest a search on racesimcentral if you >haven't done so already. I'll solve it, thx.
On this day of our lord Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:46:07 -0600, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> scribed:
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Just for openeners, what kind of motherboard do you have? Is it fairly >new or as old as your OS. I have win98se...as most of the regulars here >know, but after getting a R9800np, I had some programs that had graphic >glitches and my desktop was a mess. Little straggly lines left over >whenever I moved an icon or opened a window..and the desktop text was >truncated which made it very difficult to read quickly. > After getting a relatively modern motherboard(Abit N7 with the nforce2 >chipset...ironically by Nvidia), all those graphic problems went away. >Others here and on racesim central will also verify that older motherboards >do not work well with the last two generations of Radi.(Radeons?) >dave henrie
That's a possibility as it is an Asus P4B533 (845E), but I can run other games with no issues and my desktop is fine. In fact I just installed Nascar Thunder 2004 with no problems. I do have XP too though so will try it there instead, thx.
On this day of our lord 7 Nov 2003 07:21:51 -0800, [email hidden] (Magnus T) scribed:
Quoted text (15 lines)>An extremely well worth read when installing: >http://www.racesimcentral.com/guides/gpl/intro/gplintro.shtml > > >And if in trouble even after following all advice in the above article >there's the GPL FAQ: >http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105748 > > >Cheers! > > >/Magnus T > >- - - - GPL Track Database - - - http://magnust.d2g.com - - - -
Thanks Magnus.
Ah, that link Magnus gave me solved my issue with the video card. I dloaded the all-in-one patch and applied it. Now GPL runs perfectly. Much thx. I only installed three patches and the all-in-one installs five various patches. Woohoo.
On this day of our lord Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:56:32 GMT, Richard III <[email hidden]> scribed: >Ah, that link Magnus gave me solved my issue with the video card. I >dloaded the all-in-one patch and applied it. Now GPL runs perfectly. >Much thx. I only installed three patches and the all-in-one installs >five various patches. Woohoo. Damn, I spoke too soon. I played it D3D mode fine after applying the all in one patch but then I went and installed a car pack and fired it up and got the same problem as before. The game never starts up when I select D3D mode and if I bring up task manager it shows "Papyrus Window failed to respond". I can play it in OpenGL fine but there are a couple of graphics glitches in that mode. Weird.
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:56:13 GMT, Richard III <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)>On this day of our lord Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:32:45 -0000, "Malc" ><[email hidden]> scribed: > > >>Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure having never had that >>combination myself ;-) > >NP. I was just given this info in another group. Win98 can use up to >1gb of ram with no issues. After 1gb it may be a problem. Read this >url. >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304943 >
Hmmm, I thought it was 512MB... Great, now this means I can add more RAM to my PC, then! -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying
machf <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Hmmm, I thought it was 512MB... Great, now this means I can add more > RAM to my PC, then! Remember to come back and ask us for help when your extra memory system runs slower...... dave henrie (who doesn't beleive the ms tech file is telling the whole story)
On this day of our lord Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:06:31 -0600, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> scribed: > Remember to come back and ask us for help when your extra memory system >runs slower...... > >dave henrie > >(who doesn't beleive the ms tech file is telling the whole story) Evidence?
On this day of our lord Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:01:43 -0500, machf <[email hidden]> scribed: >Hmmm, I thought it was 512MB... Great, now this means I can add more >RAM to my PC, then! Over 512mb is a problem if you don't limit the Vcache to 512mb or less.
On this day of our lord Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:06:31 -0600, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> scribed: >(who doesn't beleive the ms tech file is telling the whole story) p.s. I run Win98, XP and Linux with 1gb of ram and see no evidenc of what you are saying.
Richard III <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (9 lines)> On this day of our lord Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:06:31 -0600, Dave Henrie > <[email hidden]> scribed: > > >>(who doesn't beleive the ms tech file is telling the whole story) > > p.s. I run Win98, XP and Linux with 1gb of ram and see no evidenc of > what you are saying. >
5 years of complaints about folks adding extra ram. Yes it can be done, yes windows98 can access more than 512 and yes you can even get your original performance if you know how to handle the vcache setting, but if you don't, as probably 99% of computer users don't, then you slog down your system. So better to warn the novice away rather than try to explain ini's and vcaches etc. dh

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