Re: GPL with SBLIVE

As the other posts noted, GPL doesn't support positional or "3d" sound. But I swear at times I can hear them coming up from behind. The sound can be moved to any speaker you want ( again not "3d") by using the speaker tab of the sb software, simply drag the little icons to the front or rear. As for the sound, use the enviroment audio tab section of the sb software and start with the basic multi speaker setup then add a couple percent of reverb and some flanger as well. Do some experimenting then save and name different setups for every different game/sim. Good luck,John Moore

Hi I am running GPL with SBlive but could not quite get the rear speakers to give enough sounds of cars coming from behind. I note more of these overtaking cars sound come thru the front speakers than the rear. It ought to be more from the rear. It the game I had enable max channels 16 speaker wave was position as close as possible. Virtually tried all combinations but still overtaking cars sounds come more from the front than the rear. Lead me to think the GPL need to recognise the rear speaker or something like that. Can anyone help me ? -- Best regards Leong EMAIL: [email hidden] SINGAPORE

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> Hi > > I am running GPL with SBlive but could not > quite get the rear speakers to give enough > sounds of cars coming from behind. > > I note more of these overtaking cars sound > come thru the front speakers than the rear. > > It ought to be more from the rear. > > > > It the game I had enable max channels 16 > speaker wave was position as close as possible. > Virtually tried all combinations but still overtaking cars > sounds come more from the front than the rear. > > > Lead me to think the GPL need to recognise the rear > speaker or something like that. > Can anyone help me ?

Sorry to disappoint you, but GPL doesn't have any positional sound at all, so it doesn't use the 3D sound features of the SB Live. The only way you can get sound from the rear speakers is to make a environment in the SoundHQ for GPL. Then you will get some reverb effects, but personally i found such features useless in GPL because it started to sound like a closed sportscar. The only good thing about the GPL and SB Live combination is that you can have 16 channels of sound with minor CPU load and framerate hit. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

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> > Hi > > I am running GPL with SBlive but could not > quite get the rear speakers to give enough > sounds of cars coming from behind. > > I note more of these overtaking cars sound > come thru the front speakers than the rear. > > It ought to be more from the rear. > > It the game I had enable max channels 16 > speaker wave was position as close as possible. > Virtually tried all combinations but still overtaking cars > sounds come more from the front than the rear. > > Lead me to think the GPL need to recognise the rear > speaker or something like that. > Can anyone help me ? > > -- > Best regards > > Leong EMAIL: [email hidden] > SINGAPORE

GPL is set up for a two speaker stereo system, not a four speaker or five speaker surround sound system. So you wont get the car that's passing you on the left to sound like it's on your left rear, then come around to the left front. What it will do is give you the sound coming from both front and back speakers on the left no matter where the car is. I used to run a four speaker system but since GPL isn't written for it, I have sense detached the fronts. The way it sounds for your system is that you have the rear speakers plugged into the front speaker port. Try switching them around to get the rear speakers to work right and place the rear speakers on the left and right of you. If I'm wrong and there is a way to set GPL up for a four speaker system or even better yet a surround sound system, I'd like to hear about it!! :) Mike -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing� ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Can you be more precise where this option is? I can't find it. I'm using Liveware 3.0. Andre >DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode > >it spoils everything, !! >It is in the speaker options.

Hi guys thanks very much for your susgestions I returned with excitement after several hours ( I need to get a new life ) of tunning the sblive. DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode it spoils everything, !! It is in the speaker options. After I did that, yes I could hear the cars passing behind me. Especially so when I skidded and facing a field , I don't have to look at the mirrors to HEAR them passing behind . Actually put my hears at the rear to confirm this ! It is not an illusion, is what I meant to say. Also use the field reverbs, not the racetrack. Reverbs are softer in the field mode. Used it for SBK as well. Yes, absolutely no framehits with 16 channels also download the loader skid sounds, it will help you know when you are reaching the edge of grip. I don't believe it at first, but adding SBLIVE did actually help my lap times !!!! Now it feel is much more INTUITIVE. I think this word accurately describe the situation. ( pun intended ) Mtb7001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > As the other posts noted, GPL doesn't support positional or "3d" sound.But I > swear at times I can hear them coming up from behind. The sound can bemoved to > any speaker you want ( again not "3d") by using the speaker tab of the sb > software, simply drag the little icons to the front or rear. As for thesound, > use the enviroment audio tab section of the sb software and start with the > basic multi speaker setup then add a couple percent of reverb and someflanger > as well. Do some experimenting then save and name different setups forevery > different game/sim. > Good luck,John Moore >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: I _think_ this is not possible, you hear the same in the front and rear speakers. JaviF

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> I just read this post and I ain't able to test this right now, since > I'm at work. > If all of this is true, that would be fantastic, but how can it be? > GPL doesn't support 3D sound, how is it possible that you can hear the > cars coming from the rear? Any other SBLive owners out there to test > this? > > Andre > > On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:18 +0800, "* Leong" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hi guys > > > > > >thanks very much for your susgestions > > > > > >I returned with excitement after several hours > >( I need to get a new life ) of tunning the sblive. > > > > > >DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode > > > >it spoils everything, !! > >It is in the speaker options. > >After I did that, yes I could hear the cars passing > >behind me. > >Especially so when I skidded and facing a field , > >I don't have to look at the mirrors to HEAR them passing behind . > >Actually put my hears at the rear to confirm this ! > >It is not an illusion, is what I meant to say. > > > > > >Also use the field reverbs, not the racetrack. > >Reverbs are softer in the field mode. > >Used it for SBK as well. > > > > > > > >Yes, absolutely no framehits with 16 channels > >also download the loader skid sounds, it will > >help you know when you are reaching the edge > >of grip. > > > > > >I don't believe it at first, but adding SBLIVE did > >actually help my lap times !!!! > >Now it feel is much more INTUITIVE. > >I think this word accurately describe the situation. > >( pun intended ) > > > > > > > > > > > >Mtb7001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> As the other posts noted, GPL doesn't support positional or "3d"

sound. > >But I > >> swear at times I can hear them coming up from behind. The soundcan be > >moved to > >> any speaker you want ( again not "3d") by using the speaker tab ofthe sb > >> software, simply drag the little icons to the front or rear. Asfor the > >sound, > >> use the enviroment audio tab section of the sb software and startwith the > >> basic multi speaker setup then add a couple percent of reverb andsome > >flanger > >> as well. Do some experimenting then save and name differentsetups for

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> >every > >> different game/sim. > >> Good luck,John Moore > >> > > > > > >

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I just read this post and I ain't able to test this right now, since I'm at work. If all of this is true, that would be fantastic, but how can it be? GPL doesn't support 3D sound, how is it possible that you can hear the cars coming from the rear? Any other SBLive owners out there to test this? Andre On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:18 +0800, "* Leong" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi guys > > >thanks very much for your susgestions > > >I returned with excitement after several hours >( I need to get a new life ) of tunning the sblive. > > >DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode > >it spoils everything, !! >It is in the speaker options. >After I did that, yes I could hear the cars passing >behind me. >Especially so when I skidded and facing a field , >I don't have to look at the mirrors to HEAR them passing behind . >Actually put my hears at the rear to confirm this ! >It is not an illusion, is what I meant to say. > > >Also use the field reverbs, not the racetrack. >Reverbs are softer in the field mode. >Used it for SBK as well. > > > >Yes, absolutely no framehits with 16 channels >also download the loader skid sounds, it will >help you know when you are reaching the edge >of grip. > > >I don't believe it at first, but adding SBLIVE did >actually help my lap times !!!! >Now it feel is much more INTUITIVE. >I think this word accurately describe the situation. >( pun intended ) > > > > > >Mtb7001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> As the other posts noted, GPL doesn't support positional or "3d" sound. >But I >> swear at times I can hear them coming up from behind. The sound can be >moved to >> any speaker you want ( again not "3d") by using the speaker tab of the sb >> software, simply drag the little icons to the front or rear. As for the >sound, >> use the enviroment audio tab section of the sb software and start with the >> basic multi speaker setup then add a couple percent of reverb and some >flanger >> as well. Do some experimenting then save and name different setups for >every >> different game/sim. >> Good luck,John Moore >> > >

No, this is not possible. However, if a car is passing you at the left side, for example, you'll here it both at the front-left AND at the rear-left. -- Joeri J. Cox Thrustmaster T2 Upgrade Page - http://huizen.dds.nl/~jjcox (Please remove NOSPAM from my e-mail address to reply) Andre Warringa heeft geschreven in bericht <[email hidden]>... >I just read this post and I ain't able to test this right now, since >I'm at work. >If all of this is true, that would be fantastic, but how can it be? >GPL doesn't support 3D sound, how is it possible that you can hear the >cars coming from the rear? Any other SBLive owners out there to test >this? > >Andre > > > >On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:18 +0800, "* Leong" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Hi guys >> >> >>thanks very much for your susgestions >> >> >>I returned with excitement after several hours >>( I need to get a new life ) of tunning the sblive. >> >> >>DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode >> >>it spoils everything, !! >>It is in the speaker options. >>After I did that, yes I could hear the cars passing >>behind me. >>Especially so when I skidded and facing a field , >>I don't have to look at the mirrors to HEAR them passing behind . >>Actually put my hears at the rear to confirm this ! >>It is not an illusion, is what I meant to say. >> >> >>Also use the field reverbs, not the racetrack. >>Reverbs are softer in the field mode. >>Used it for SBK as well. >> >> >> >>Yes, absolutely no framehits with 16 channels >>also download the loader skid sounds, it will >>help you know when you are reaching the edge >>of grip. >> >> >>I don't believe it at first, but adding SBLIVE did >>actually help my lap times !!!! >>Now it feel is much more INTUITIVE. >>I think this word accurately describe the situation. >>( pun intended ) >> >> >> >> >> >>Mtb7001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> As the other posts noted, GPL doesn't support positional or "3d" sound. >>But I >>> swear at times I can hear them coming up from behind. The sound can be >>moved to >>> any speaker you want ( again not "3d") by using the speaker tab of the sb >>> software, simply drag the little icons to the front or rear. As for the >>sound, >>> use the enviroment audio tab section of the sb software and start with the >>> basic multi speaker setup then add a couple percent of reverb and some >>flanger >>> as well. Do some experimenting then save and name different setups for >>every >>> different game/sim. >>> Good luck,John Moore >>> >> >> >

oops Liveware 3.0 perfromance is different for the CMSS. Some post that it does work better but if you dont have LW3 then disabling CMSS should be better. Kevin Caldwell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aNON3.3184$[email hidden]...

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> If you open the Mixer control panel, and click on the top right corner > swirly thing, it will expand. There is a CMSS pick that you can set to > "movie" or "off". I've always had it off, and I don't have 3D sound from > GPL. > > Tom Pabst, in his N3 sound article, did recommend it be set to off. > > Kevin Caldwell > Calgary, Canada > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can you be more precise where this option is? I can't find it. I'm > > using Liveware 3.0. > > > > Andre > > > > >DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode > > > > > >it spoils everything, !! > > >It is in the speaker options. > > > >

at the speaker, options try it and park the car facing a field with no reflections sound from any wall. Let the track be at your rear. You want only the cars coming from the rear right to the rear left. then wait for the other racing to pass. bring the rear speakers slightly closer you will only hear them from the rear ! no sound from the front at all. Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Can you be more precise where this option is? I can't find it. I'm > using Liveware 3.0. > > Andre > > >DISABLE THE DAMN CMSS = movie mode > > > >it spoils everything, !! > >It is in the speaker options. >