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22 posts by 15 people · 12 Nov 2004 00:41 UTC - 19 Nov 2004 11:10 UTC

rFactor crashes on Radeon 9800 Pro

Dino reported constant crashes and reboots in rFactor with a Radeon 9800 Pro. Others ran it without problems and suggested checking temperatures and drivers; he found his CPU overclock was the cause. The thread became a debate about the value of overclocking.

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Dino 12 Nov 2004 00:41 UTC#29229
Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking about it one time (jk ;-) Thanks, DN
No problem here, so far. I'm using the latest Omega drivers if that helps. --------------------------------------- Thanks, Aaron Markham *RATE MY CAR AT CARDOMAIN.COM* http://www.cardomain.com/id/amarkham *RIP AYRTON SENNA & DALE EARNHARDT* "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zETkd.143851$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It > happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking about > it one time (jk ;-) > > Thanks, > DN > >
In article <fITkd.885795$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (25 lines)> No problem here, so far. I'm using the latest Omega drivers if that helps. > > --------------------------------------- > Thanks, > Aaron Markham > > *RATE MY CAR AT CARDOMAIN.COM* > http://www.cardomain.com/id/amarkham > > *RIP AYRTON SENNA & DALE EARNHARDT* > > > "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zETkd.143851$[email hidden]... > > Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It > > happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking about > > it one time (jk ;-) > > > > Thanks, > > DN > > > > > > >
I have a 9800 Pro XT and it runs great. Using the 8.04 beta drivers.
"Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:zETkd.143851$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (8 lines)> Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It > happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking > about it one time (jk ;-) > > Thanks, > DN > >
9800 non pro and yesterday I had a problem, but not today. My cpu was shutting down due to heat buildup. I cleaned all the fans, vents and heatsink fins with blasts of compressed air and it's good as gold now. Try getting a temp monitoring utility and then running the program. Jump out and check the temps. Good luck. dave henri e
Doug Hook 12 Nov 2004 02:30 UTC↳ reply to Dino#29237
The first time I ran it it crashed but it has been fine for the past 2 hours. Great game. "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zETkd.143851$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It > happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking about > it one time (jk ;-) > > Thanks, > DN > >
Thanks for all the input, I had a heat issue back in the summer but a new fan / copper heat sink and arctic silver paste on my XP2500 brought the temps down considerably . . . MBM showed 43c right after one of the ctd's. I noticed there were some AMD owners reporting similar problems in RSC's forum so I probably blamed the wrong piece of hardware. DN "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:zETkd.143851$[email hidden]: > > > Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It > > happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking > > about it one time (jk ;-) > > > > Thanks, > > DN > > > > > > 9800 non pro and yesterday I had a problem, but not today. My cpu was > shutting down due to heat buildup. I cleaned all the fans, vents and > heatsink fins with blasts of compressed air and it's good as gold now. > Try getting a temp monitoring utility and then running the program. Jump > out and check the temps. Good luck. > > dave henri > e
"Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:oHbld.23$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Thanks for all the input, I had a heat issue back in the summer but a > new fan / copper heat sink and arctic silver paste on my XP2500 > brought the temps down considerably . . . MBM showed 43c right after > one of the ctd's. I noticed there were some AMD owners reporting > similar problems in RSC's forum so I probably blamed the wrong piece > of hardware. > > DN >
I have AMD and ATI with zero lockups so far(after that one heat one that is) Only been on about an hour tho. dh
Dino 18 Nov 2004 02:14 UTC↳ reply to Dino#28947
To follow up and complete this post, the ctd's/reboot's i experienced were due to my XP2500 being overclocked to 2.0 gb from it's default 1.8, a few hrs. at stock clock with nary a problem :) Now that I've had a chance to log some seat time I'll give my mini-review..... Netcode is very promising ;-) DN "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zETkd.143851$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Anyone running it without constant reboots or ctd's with this card? It > happens in menus, on track , wherever. Hell. . . I was just thinking about > it one time (jk ;-) > > Thanks, > DN > >
"Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:IzTmd.12880$[email hidden]:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > To follow up and complete this post, the ctd's/reboot's i experienced > were due to my XP2500 being overclocked to 2.0 gb from it's default > 1.8, a few hrs. at stock clock with nary a problem :) > Now that I've had a chance to log some seat time I'll give my > mini-review..... Netcode is very promising ;-) > > DN >
I'm amazed we still overclock things. Back when a P100 was oc'd to 105 that was a big gain. But with cpu's running 30x as fast...an overclocking of much more than the then huge 5mhz gain, results in a comparitively smaller increase. I'm not picking on you Dino, just commenting on the existence of OCing at all in these 2 to 3ghz days. dave henrie
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:50:11 -0600, Dave Henrie wrote: > I'm not picking on you Dino, just commenting on the existence of OCing > at all in these 2 to 3ghz days. > not picking on you either, but: >>> 2000.0/18001.111 and: >>> 105.0/1001.05 so: overclocking from 1.8 to 2.0 means an even *larger* gain than going from 100 to 105 (unless that was a typo and you intended to say going from 100 to 150, because then: >>> 150.0/1001.5 ;-) all the best, uwe "I feel like nitpicking today" -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (31 lines)> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:50:11 -0600, Dave Henrie wrote: > >> I'm not picking on you Dino, just commenting on the existence of >> OCing >> at all in these 2 to 3ghz days. >> > > not picking on you either, but: > >>>> 2000.0/1800 > 1.111 > > and: > >>>> 105.0/100 > 1.05 > > so: overclocking from 1.8 to 2.0 means an even *larger* gain than > going from 100 to 105 (unless that was a typo and you intended to say > going from 100 to 150, because then: > >>>> 150.0/100 > 1.5 ;-) > > > all the best, > > uwe "I feel like nitpicking today" > > >
nit away Uwe... :) I was hoping NOBODY was paying attention to the specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But the idea still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster than the good ol days...why BOTHER overclocking?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:32:59 -0600, Dave Henrie wrote: > nit away Uwe... :) I was hoping NOBODY was paying attention to the > specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But the idea > still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster than the good ol > days...why BOTHER overclocking? of course you're absolutely right, Dave. If you can go from 2000 to 3000MHz, it might make a noticeable difference (like in the good old days as you said), anything else is just taking unnecessary risks in my opinion, too. cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
I overclock a 3gig Prescott to 3.75 and the temps never get over 120F. Not much risk for a free 750Mhz which adds a few FPS. I see your point about the increase not being as great as the good ole days of a Cel300a OC'd to 450MHz but I dont understand this paranoia about OC'ing. If you could get a *FREE* 50HP for your car wouldnt you? Mitch "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:32:59 -0600, Dave Henrie wrote: >> nit away Uwe... :) I was hoping NOBODY was paying attention to the >> specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But the idea >> still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster than the good ol >> days...why BOTHER overclocking? > > of course you're absolutely right, Dave. If you can go from 2000 to > 3000MHz, it might make a noticeable difference (like in the good old > days as you said), anything else is just taking unnecessary risks in > my opinion, too. > > cheers, > > uwe > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
EldredP 18 Nov 2004 18:17 UTC↳ reply to Mitch_A#28967
>If you could get a *FREE* 50HP for your car wouldnt you? > No, because it wouldn't be free for long. I'd just get more tickets... :-( Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 Hist. +82.34 N2k3 rank: -1.182 Slayer Spektera lvl 79 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 44 Necro US East
Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... [snip] > > nit away Uwe... :) I was hoping NOBODY was paying attention to the > specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But the idea > still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster than the good ol > days...why BOTHER overclocking? There are moments when the available CPUs are right at the limit and not a whole lot can be gained, but some of the latest CPUs are *very* overclockable - I just got an AMD Barton XP Mobile that normally runs at 2ghz, which I have running at 2.5Ghz (that's a 3400+ rating) on air cooling. Not only do you get the pure increase in CPU speed, but this is also done via faster FSB, which speeds CPU<->Mem transfers significantly as well. Kendt
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:03:53 GMT, Mitch_A wrote: > OC'ing. If you could get a *FREE* 50HP for your car wouldnt you? If it meant more fuel consumption and less miles to the gallon: no. ;-) cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
[email hidden] (Kendt Eklund) wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (17 lines)> Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<[email hidden]>... [snip] >> >> nit away Uwe... :) I was hoping NOBODY was paying attention to >> the >> specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But the >> idea still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster than the >> good ol days...why BOTHER overclocking? > > There are moments when the available CPUs are right at the limit and > not a whole lot can be gained, but some of the latest CPUs are *very* > overclockable - I just got an AMD Barton XP Mobile that normally runs > at 2ghz, which I have running at 2.5Ghz (that's a 3400+ rating) on air > cooling. > Not only do you get the pure increase in CPU speed, but this is also > done via faster FSB, which speeds CPU<->Mem transfers significantly as > well.
It's about getting value for money, buy a less expensive product and get the same performance as a more expensive model. as long as your paying attention (temperatures and cooling) the risks of overclocking are a non issue. I overclock everything and have yet to experience damage to a cpu or video card. Don
I just simply can not run a processor without overclocking it, or a video card. That is just not in my nature, when I know there is some reserve hp to be garnished and let loose. I've done it with every processor since the celeron 300A, and am currently doing it with an AMd XP2800+ overclocked to 3200+ speeds. In 3d, I run my ATI 9800 Pro at 413/374. I ain't happy unless I am tinkerin/tweaking, and just can't go too long without upgrading something. I think I am addicted.... :) -- Don Burnette Mitch_A wrote: > I overclock a 3gig Prescott to 3.75 and the temps never get over > 120F. Not much risk for a free 750Mhz which adds a few FPS. > > I see your point about the increase not being as great as the good > ole days of a Cel300a OC'd to 450MHz but I dont understand this > paranoia about OC'ing. If you could get a *FREE* 50HP for your car > wouldnt you? > Mitch > > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:32:59 -0600, Dave Henrie wrote: >>> nit away Uwe... :) I was hoping NOBODY was paying attention to >>> the specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But >>> the idea still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster >>> than the good ol days...why BOTHER overclocking? >> >> of course you're absolutely right, Dave. If you can go from 2000 to >> 3000MHz, it might make a noticeable difference (like in the good old >> days as you said), anything else is just taking unnecessary risks in >> my opinion, too. >> >> cheers, >> >> uwe >> >> >> -- >> mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) >> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ >> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) >> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:32:59 -0600, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote something like: >specifics. I just pulled those numbers out of thin air. But the idea >still holds..With processor speeds so very much faster than the good ol >days...why BOTHER overclocking? Ok, my Athlon 2500+ is faster than my old Celeron 1000@1450MHz, and way faster then the good old 366@616MHz. So does that mean that it's fast enough? So fast that there's no need to overclock? I don't think so. The fps increase e.g. in GTR demo is rather big when I pump the default 333MHz FSB (DDR) to 444MHz and go from 1.83GHz to 2.45GHz. A cpu that fast at default speed costs over 150 euros more than the 2500+. That's why I bother to o/c. -- - Jussi Koukku -

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