Logitech wheel differences?

I saw three Logictec wheels in the local store. 1. wingman force-yellow wheel $70 2. wingman force-black wheel $80 (very similar box to feedback wheel) upgrade of #1 ? 3. wingmanforce feedback- red wheel $150 What are the differences and which of the two less expensive ones is better ? I have N2 and may get N3.. Thanks

Greg Cisko wrote:

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> > Goy Larsen wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >Now both wheels look like they're really looking for a fight here today, > >the TSW2 has the weight advantage, but on the other hand, the Logitech > >has the added power of FF, will the weight and smoothness of the TSW2 > >outweigh the power and speed of the Logitech FF, I guess we will just > >have to see what this match will bring us > > > >And there goes the bell and here we go.............. > > Oh he would win for sure. Since I have FF, I would feel the punches :-)

LOL -- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

I'm in the same boat as Kevin - despite fiddling endlessly with core.ini in GPL and the Logitech control panel, I just couldn't get the subtle effects others were raving about in this newsgroup. Same thing in N3. All the 'gross' effects like hitting a wall, going over rumble strips, etc, were OK, but I could never feel the tires working / letting go. I wonder if there's enough of a unit-to-unit difference in manufacturing that would account for this? I seem to recall several months ago someone posting a message here about the different feel of multiple Logitech wheels he was testing. (all the same Formula Force model) Oh well, I'm still waiting for mine to return from the repair depot. Maybe it'll come back and be spectacular! ...207 Greg Cisko <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote in message news:7u8q5g$fb$[email hidden]... > OK. At this point I guess it is prudent to ask which FF wheel > you have. Because GPL and N3 give me the effects you > say are lacking. >

A friend has the black wheel, and yes, the yellow is available in Canada.  I think the difference is the USB. Kevin Caldwell wrote:

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> Just checked the Logitech web site. The yellow wheel ( not available in > Canada it seems), uses the gameport or USB. Must have that sought after > gameport to USB converter. The black wheel isn't listed for the US, but the > Canadian site has it: gameport only. Other than that, they seem identical. > > http://www.logitech.com/us/steeringwheels/sw98_100.html > > Kevin Caldwell > > > me <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > I saw three Logictec wheels in the local store. > > > 1. wingman force-yellow wheel $70 > > > 2. wingman force-black wheel $80 (very similar box to feedback wheel) > > > upgrade of #1 ? > > > 3. wingmanforce feedback- red wheel $150 > > >  What are the differences and which of the two less expensive ones is > > > better ? I have N2 and may get N3..  Thanks > > > > > > >

-- Race Fan Supreme Stephen Staneland Steve's Golf & Tennis

Strange. I own a LWFF an it's absolutely awesome in GPL. I can clearly feel the weight of the car, how much grip the front wheels have, if the rear gets loose etc. Heck, not only different cars feel different, but different setups do also. It can also clearly be felt, when you've (even very slightly) damaged your suspension. For me, there is no way back to non-FF in GPL (can't tell for N3 though). I'd constantly fall off the track without it. I don't know about unit-to-unit differences. If there are some, they seem to be only about the amount of force the wheel generates. Some people think, Alison Hine's setup is much too weak, others feel that it's absolutely OK and Eric Cote's is much too strong. I don't know, I've settled somewhere in between and it feels great for me. Peter Vienna, Austria Klinn <[email hidden]> schrieb > I'm in the same boat as Kevin - despite fiddling endlessly with core.iniin > GPL and the Logitech control panel, I just couldn't get the subtle effects > others were raving about in this newsgroup. Same thing in N3. All the > 'gross' effects like hitting a wall, going over rumble strips, etc, wereOK, > but I could never feel the tires working / letting go. > > I wonder if there's enough of a unit-to-unit difference in manufacturing > that would account for this? I seem to recall several months ago someone > posting a message here about the different feel of multiple Logitechwheels

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> he was testing. (all the same Formula Force model) > > Oh well, I'm still waiting for mine to return from the repair depot. Maybe > it'll come back and be spectacular! > > ...207 > > Greg Cisko <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote in message > news:7u8q5g$fb$[email hidden]... > > OK. At this point I guess it is prudent to ask which FF wheel > > you have. Because GPL and N3 give me the effects you > > say are lacking. > > > > >