Re: GPL: Brands Hatch

Peter Ives <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> I found the complete opposite with Brands Hatch in that it is far more > slippery. As soon as I start to accelerate out of a corner the back end > starts to slide all over the show. I really have to concentrate > overtime to keep from going sideways. And it's not because I'm a > slowpoke who doesn't know how to drive these things. I've managed a > 1:37.0 there - not brilliant, but not slow either. > -- > Peter Ives

Peter, Just about everyone at GSB/VROC feels the same way. No matter how soft you make the rear,over steering out of most corners still takes place. As a result,you hardly ever see a Brands Hatch race anymore. We've sent emails to David Noonan via the Pits if he could do something about the lack of grip,but nothing has come of them. As a matter of fact,no one other than Alison Hines has ever heard from him. A lot of us wonder if he really exists. Joel Willstein [email hidden]

> Just about everyone at GSB/VROC feels the same way. No matter howsoft > you make the rear,over steering out of most corners still takes place. Asa > result,you hardly ever see a Brands Hatch race anymore. We've sent emailsto > David Noonan via the Pits if he could do something about the lack of > grip,but nothing has come of them. > > As a matter of fact,no one other than Alison Hines has ever heardfrom > him. A lot of us wonder if he really exists. > > Joel Willstein > [email hidden] I can assure you that he does exist. :-) Jim Getzen The Pits

Jim Getzen wrote: > > I can assure you that he does exist. :-) > > Jim Getzen > The Pits Yup, but last time I called him, he answered something that sounded a lot like "Crammond" when he picked up the phone, makes you wonder eh ? -- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

In article <7uf518$k80$[email hidden]>, Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> writes

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> >Peter Ives <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> I found the complete opposite with Brands Hatch in that it is far more >> slippery. As soon as I start to accelerate out of a corner the back end >> starts to slide all over the show. I really have to concentrate >> overtime to keep from going sideways. And it's not because I'm a >> slowpoke who doesn't know how to drive these things. I've managed a >> 1:37.0 there - not brilliant, but not slow either. >> -- >> Peter Ives > >Peter, > > Just about everyone at GSB/VROC feels the same way. No matter how soft >you make the rear,over steering out of most corners still takes place. As a >result,you hardly ever see a Brands Hatch race anymore. We've sent emails to >David Noonan via the Pits if he could do something about the lack of >grip,but nothing has come of them. > > As a matter of fact,no one other than Alison Hines has ever heard from >him. A lot of us wonder if he really exists. >

Well, it's thanks to Alison that I've managed that 1:37.0. I generally like my cars to oversteer slightly and can set them up to do so quite easily, but creating a car with either neutral handling or push is beyond me at the moment - still reading up on all this setup malarkey. So with one of my own setups I was lucky to get under 1:40 and Ali's Ferrari setup saved the day for me at Brands. :-) Despite the inherent oversteer problems there, I'm still happy to race against the AI during a World Championship. However, this is one track where I cannot compete with them - I need sub 1:35 for pole. Still, I haven't stopped improving so hopefully next time around I'll be in the 1:36's at least. -- Peter Ives

Peter Ives <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <7uf518$k80$[email hidden]>, Joel Willstein > <[email hidden]> writes > > > >Peter Ives <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> I found the complete opposite with Brands Hatch in that it is far more > >> slippery. As soon as I start to accelerate out of a corner the backend

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> >> starts to slide all over the show. I really have to concentrate > >> overtime to keep from going sideways. And it's not because I'm a > >> slowpoke who doesn't know how to drive these things. I've managed a > >> 1:37.0 there - not brilliant, but not slow either. > >> -- > >> Peter Ives > > Well, it's thanks to Alison that I've managed that 1:37.0. I generally > like my cars to oversteer slightly and can set them up to do so quite > easily, but creating a car with either neutral handling or push is > beyond me at the moment - still reading up on all this setup malarkey. > So with one of my own setups I was lucky to get under 1:40 and Ali's > Ferrari setup saved the day for me at Brands. :-) > > Despite the inherent oversteer problems there, I'm still happy to race > against the AI during a World Championship. However, this is one track > where I cannot compete with them - I need sub 1:35 for pole. Still, I > haven't stopped improving so hopefully next time around I'll be in the > 1:36's at least. > -- > Peter Ives

Peter, I would glady take your lap times. My best is only a 1:41. But in a GPLRC race at Brands last night,only one driver was under 1:40. Funny thing though,no one really likes racing at Brands. Whether or not it's our driving,setup,or whatever,the constant oversteer makes for a poor race. Joel Willstein [email hidden]

Yeah, if I can get in twenty to thirty laps without an off I'm doing well. >:( One thing, I haven't as yet driven online, but intend to be giving it ago pretty soon. I was wondering, are there any times where VROC is more popular than others, or is it pretty good no matter when you choose to race. Seeing as I'm in the UK, I don't want to find myself staying up till the early hours (4am or later <g>) just to guarantee plenty of racing action against all you yanks. ;-) -- Peter Ives

Peter, Unforunately, you can get pretty good racing any time of the day or night. I say unfortunately, because it's somewhat ***ing, and you'll find yourself staying up later than you ever dreamed of. Terry T.

That's what I was afraid of. 8-{ -- Peter Ives