The KING of the RING!

After looking at Huttu's 7.54.60 lap at the ring in the Ferrari, one thing is clear: Mika Hakkinen ->OUT Greger ->IN :-) I'm still shaking...I still can't believe it. His special skills with the pedals are unique for sure. So are the others... Congrats!

well about 8,000 hours of practice where you have no fear of dieing may help a bit... don't even ask what my lap times are, I have a great deal of admiration for Greger JM

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> After looking at Huttu's 7.54.60 lap at the ring in the Ferrari, one thing > is clear: > Mika Hakkinen ->OUT > Greger ->IN > :-) > I'm still shaking...I still can't believe it. His special skills with the > pedals are unique for sure. So are the others... > Congrats!

The ring has become somewhat of an obsession for me... It's been over six months since I raced any of the other tracks i GPL, except for the odd session at Monza to try out new setup ideas. I find all the other tracks quite boring now actually :-) Racing around the ring brings back memories of the glorious summer we had,*** my Ducati around local roads here in Sweden.. I thought I was mighty quick with a 8:16 in the Ferrari until I saw someone broke the 8 minute barrier quite a while back... Made me feel kind of silly... :-) How the hell am I going to take 20 seconds out of that lap.... ;-) -- /Bj.O.rn, SDK #1225

I'm also at 8.16 in the ferrari, can't beat it at all. I just love blasting over the blind hills, hoping the corner coming up was the one you were expecting.......

Hehe, well thanks Hans-Otto. :) It was surely one of my best laps if not the best. I was "in the zone" on that one. <G> -- Greger Huttu

>I thought I was mighty quick with a 8:16 in the Ferrari until I saw someone >broke the 8 minute barrier quite a while back... Made me feel kind of >silly... :-) >How the hell am I going to take 20 seconds out of that lap.... ;-) Easier for you to get 20 seconds off an 8 minute lap than for me to get 15+ seconds off Spa (3:29.x) Eldred p.s. if it makes you feel any better, I still can't break the *11* minute barrier at the Ring... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hmmm...where am i gonna find 2 minutes to chop off my lap time there?!? Oh yea...if i could manage not to Shift-R 5 times...that might help some :) Chris 9:44.13 and not dropping at the ring....

> Hehe, well thanks Hans-Otto. :) It was surely one of my best laps if > not the best. I was "in the zone" on that one. <G> "In the zone" yeah you could say that for sure! That Ferrari lap impresses me more than the 7.52.60 of the Lotus. By the looking at your work behind the wheel in the Ferrari you seemed to struggle more to get it smooth there :-) I've modified my Dexxa pedals to split-axis now see if I can get better with them I'm down to my earlier times now but the travel of the pedals are to big (I'll fix that) so I can't get lower yet, but hell it's alot more relaxed to drive with split-axis anyway! Happy Chrismas and a Good New Year!

Yeah, that might help. :) Just try to drive some laps *easy*, brake early and concentrate on the exit from the corners. Don't take any risks. That way you'll get those sub-9 min laps almost automatically. :) Oh yeah, it's recommended to use 4-inch ride height. -- Greger Huttu

You did? I'd be interested to hear about that,as I am planning to do the same to my Dexxa set,but I'm still gathering courage to open them up...... -- Robert S?derberg If replying by mail,remove the word INGENSPAM from the adress.

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>> Hehe, well thanks Hans-Otto. :) It was surely one of my best laps if >> not the best. I was "in the zone" on that one. <G> >"In the zone" yeah you could say that for sure! That Ferrari lap impresses >me more than the 7.52.60 of the Lotus. >By the looking at your work behind the wheel in the Ferrari you seemed to >struggle more to get it smooth there :-)

Sure, the Ferrari lap was better. The Lotus is capable of doing at least a 7:51 so that 7:52.40 wasn't so good. :) It really helps on some corners and I'm sure you can improve your laptimes... You too. :) -- Greger Huttu

Robert, first of all I have to say that I use a combination of the Logitech Wingman Formula Force and the Dexxa pedals in my setup. And as I have two dexxa wheels I chose to experiment with one of the sets. If you are planning to use the wheel together with the pedals, my way of doing it is NOT suitable for you. You should in any case buy another Dexxa set as the pedals alone are worth the money. I have had them for ages and they are still as good as new. The only drawback is that they have to be mounted on a solid base because of their light weight. I did the rewiring job in about 30 minutes but I haven't put down on paper exactly how I did it, but here is a resume: I used a male 15 pin joystick plug and some signalwire I had lying around and connected the GAS pot to the JOYSTICK 1 Y-AXIS and the BRAKE pot to the JOYSTICK 2 Y-AXIS on the SBLive Soundcard. Then I connected a 10K resistor instead of a JOYSTICK 1 X-AXIS pot and another 10K resistor instead of the JOYSTICK 2 X-AXIS pot on the SBLive so the Win98 joystick panel accepts the loop as a controller. Then I configured the pedals using a custom 3-axis 0 button setup in the Win98 joystick panel. The Logitech wheel runs through the USB system and is configured as "Combined Axis". The pedals are ID1 and the Logitech is ID2 and everything works perfectly well. The pots in the pedals are 150K so the range, smoothness and feel is superb for GPL. It also worked with Nascar 3 after some fiddling around with the controller settings in the game. It's wise to get a wiring diagram of the SBLive Joystick connector to clearly see how to do this done, but it's fairly simple :-) I used a diagram I had in a VERY old SBPro manual. Regards, Hans-Otto

Where can i see the replay of this wonderful lap of yours? I was still shaken by Ian Lake's 7:57 sometime ago, but 7:54 is awesome, well done! I have been stuck on same time for a while now (I won't say what it is, not in view of humiliating 7:54) driving the Lotus. I can never go further than 6, 8 laps in training as by then my arms are no longer able to move themselves. Maybe I should try the Ferrari... Never mind... Mauricio.

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>>After looking at Huttu's 7.54.60 lap at the ring in the Ferrari, one thing >>is clear: >>Mika Hakkinen ->OUT >>Greger ->IN >>:-) >>I'm still shaking...I still can't believe it. His special skills with the >>pedals are unique for sure. So are the others... >>Congrats! >Hehe, well thanks Hans-Otto. :) It was surely one of my best laps if >not the best. I was "in the zone" on that one. <G>

Would say the Dexxa pedals are better than the CH Pedals connected through a PDPI L4? Mauricio.

I've just seen pictures of the the CH pedals and they seem to be designed for the hole area of the foot while the dexxa pedals are designed for only the front part which I like. When I checked the prize for the CH pedals they costed 3 times as much as the dexxa pedals which also included a wheel :-) As a matter of fact I've done some small modifications to the internals of the dexxa wheel and I've done a 1.26.1 at monaco with it which is far from what I can do with my old TM GP1 wheel. The only drawbacks for me with the dexxa is that I had to modify it so it got more harder to turn and it's lack of FF which I like. When it comes to the PDPI L4 my computer is filled up with cards so I can't use it anyway :-) The only thing I know for sure is that I the Logitech pedals is useless for me and the dexxa pedals is very nice to drive with. Happy New Year! Hans-Otto

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>>Hehe, well thanks Hans-Otto. :) It was surely one of my best laps if >>not the best. I was "in the zone" on that one. <G> >Where can i see the replay of this wonderful lap of yours? >I was still shaken by Ian Lake's 7:57 sometime ago, but 7:54 is >awesome, well done! >I have been stuck on same time for a while now (I won't say what it >is, not in view of humiliating 7:54) driving the Lotus. I can never go >further than 6, 8 laps in training as by then my arms are no longer >able to move themselves. >Maybe I should try the Ferrari... > Never mind...

[link lost in import] download my setup I used for the lap. Believe me, setup is pretty important on a 23 km track. :) I also did a 7:52 with the Lotus but the Ferrari lap is better as is the setup. -- Greger Huttu

Well, the Logitech pedals are in fact a joke, you right there. Thanks for the info. Mauricio.

This helps Don't know about your driving style, but my favorite problem is to cut the corners and get onto the grass, then loose control. If you got the same problem, try to optimize your line and concentrate on the apex, when turning in. My observation: Each spin costs you an average of 10 sec (some more, some less) A Shift-R costs you much more and endagers you to go spinning again (cold tires). Yesterday I had my first spun-free lap with the eagle, was a 8:29 <vbg> GREGER - I'M COMING ;-) Jens --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor