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Re: GPL starts; is this normal?

5 posts by 3 people · 07 Feb 2000 - 08 Feb 2000

It IS normal, Steven. And if you are running a default installation and have NOT interfered with any of the GPL_AI.INI settings then you will find that, after a few starts at the same track(s), the AI might let you get away and into that first corner "easily" but from then on you are going to have to fight!! The Global Hype Scaling will come into play and you will be pushing the brown stuff up hill to get points from then on in! So enjoy it (the brief moment of glory) whilst you can! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Steven Dickson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rDsn4.8885$[email hidden]... > Hi all, a question about starts in GPL. > > When the flag drops and I pop the clutch, I invariably bog down more than > the AI drivers and get off to a slower start. However, assuming that there > is a reasonably long start straight before the first corner, I am always > able to pass at least half the grid by taking an outside line and then > nipping in just before the braking point. > > Is this normal? I'm even able to quite easily out drag some of the front > runners (Clark, Hill, Brabham, Gurney, Hulme et al). Driving the Eagle, > default setups, full Grand Prix, v1.0.2, default AI settings. Tracks > include Spa, Monza and Kyalami. I can understand blowing past some of the > Coopers and BRMs, but not the Lotuses and other Eagles -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
(unknown) 07 Feb 2000#290362
In article <rDsn4.8885$[email hidden]>, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Hi all, a question about starts in GPL. > > Often, I skip the two practice sessions and get straight to the race;I've > done enough hotlaps and now need more experience racing other cars. > Skipping the practice sessions places me at the back of the grid withthe > remaining grid positions seemingly more or less random. Fine andwell. > > When the flag drops and I pop the clutch, I invariably bog down morethan > the AI drivers and get off to a slower start. However, assuming thatthere > is a reasonably long start straight before the first corner, I amalways > able to pass at least half the grid by taking an outside line and then > nipping in just before the braking point. > > Is this normal? I'm even able to quite easily out drag some of thefront > runners (Clark, Hill, Brabham, Gurney, Hulme et al). Driving theEagle, > default setups, full Grand Prix, v1.0.2, default AI settings. Tracks > include Spa, Monza and Kyalami. I can understand blowing past some ofthe > Coopers and BRMs, but not the Lotuses and other Eagles. > > Also, does GPL model racing lines and lack of grip on the dirty partsof the > track? > > Thanks for your feedback. Starts may be taxing the AI a bit as the algorithm seems to be to first try to get to the racing line and then decide if any overtaking is possible - hence the "trick" of whizzing past the AI's on an off racing line path. N.b. this slightly dumb behaviour can produce some rather amusing incidents - I once had an offline race at Watkins Glen where I was starting near the back of the grid. Somewhere on the uphill strecth between the 1st and 2nd turns one of the leading cars span blocking the racing line and all the following AI cars initially just lined up behind it without attempting to manouver around the obstruction - I, however, could spot what had happened, moved over and gained 10-12 places. I've also read comments that AI cars have similar problems when trying to lap AI backmarkers. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Steven Dickson 07 Feb 2000 05:21 UTC#290463
Hi all, a question about starts in GPL. Often, I skip the two practice sessions and get straight to the race; I've done enough hotlaps and now need more experience racing other cars. Skipping the practice sessions places me at the back of the grid with the remaining grid positions seemingly more or less random. Fine and well. When the flag drops and I pop the clutch, I invariably bog down more than the AI drivers and get off to a slower start. However, assuming that there is a reasonably long start straight before the first corner, I am always able to pass at least half the grid by taking an outside line and then nipping in just before the braking point. Is this normal? I'm even able to quite easily out drag some of the front runners (Clark, Hill, Brabham, Gurney, Hulme et al). Driving the Eagle, default setups, full Grand Prix, v1.0.2, default AI settings. Tracks include Spa, Monza and Kyalami. I can understand blowing past some of the Coopers and BRMs, but not the Lotuses and other Eagles. Also, does GPL model racing lines and lack of grip on the dirty parts of the track? Thanks for your feedback. S.
Steven Dickson 07 Feb 2000 17:57 UTC#290335
Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It IS normal, Steven. And if you are running a default installation and > have NOT interfered with any of the GPL_AI.INI settings then you will find > that, after a few starts at the same track(s), the AI might let you getaway
Quoted text (8 lines)> and into that first corner "easily" but from then on you are going to have > to fight!! > > The Global Hype Scaling will come into play and you will be pushing the > brown stuff up hill to get points from then on in! > > So enjoy it (the brief moment of glory) whilst you can! >
Thanks for the feedback guys. I thought that I may have inadvertently disabled some realism toggle or other. Bruce, I hear you about the uphill slog, I hear you. I'm usually able to run in the upper mid-field for a few laps, sweating bullets the whole time, before the inevitable mistake under pressure and then it's either early retirement or playing catch-up with the tail-enders. Fantastic sense of racing though, even against the AI. This is one sweet game. S.
Welcome to the wonders of GPL, Steven. Your life will never be the same. :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > > It IS normal, Steven. And if you are running a default installation and > > have NOT interfered with any of the GPL_AI.INI settings then you will find > > that, after a few starts at the same track(s), the AI might let you get > away > > and into that first corner "easily" but from then on you are going to have > > to fight!! > > The Global Hype Scaling will come into play and you will be pushing the > > brown stuff up hill to get points from then on in! > > So enjoy it (the brief moment of glory) whilst you can! > Thanks for the feedback guys. I thought that I may have inadvertently > disabled some realism toggle or other. Bruce, I hear you about the uphill > slog, I hear you. I'm usually able to run in the upper mid-field for a few > laps, sweating bullets the whole time, before the inevitable mistake under > pressure and then it's either early retirement or playing catch-up with the > tail-enders. Fantastic sense of racing though, even against the AI. This > is one sweet game. > S. -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

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