LWFF pedals ( increasing pedal travel and calibration question )

I'm trying to get the best out of that stupid pedals. First thing was to figure out how to increase the pedal travel for both brake and throttle pedal. I almost started cutting the hole into the pedal cover to make room for more travel when i noticed that i could gain a few mm by simply removing the rubber pads that stop the pedals when they are fully pressed. I removed them only to notice that it had no effect on the effective pedal travel. I can press the pedal some extra mm now but i noticed that pots reach their min value ( 0.0000 ) before they even hit the bottom. Why is that? Do i have to recalibrate ( although i don't know when or how i calibrated them in the first place ) ? How? I don't have an instrument to meassure the pots if they really reach their limit at that point or is that a driver thing. If i can solve the min value problem the same will probably apply for max value only then i will start cutting the pedal cover ). I know that i should really get the CH Pedals but they are not sold here in Slovenia and i don't have a credit card to order them online. Does anyone know if they are sold in Austria, Italy or Germany and at what price? Please, help! Borut

Why would you want more travel?????????????? a real brake pedal has nearly no travel!!!!! i'm looking into removint the pot meter and replacing it with a pressure sensor... sudesh

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> I'm trying to get the best out of that stupid pedals. First thing was to > figure out how to increase the pedal travel for both brake and throttle > pedal. I almost started cutting the hole into the pedal cover to make room > for more travel when i noticed that i could gain a few mm by simply removing > the *** pads that stop the pedals when they are fully pressed. I removed > them only to notice that it had no effect on the effective pedal travel. I > can press the pedal some extra mm now but i noticed that pots reach their > min value ( 0.0000 ) before they even hit the bottom. Why is that? Do i have > to recalibrate ( although i don't know when or how i calibrated them in the > first place ) ? How? I don't have an instrument to meassure the pots if they > really reach their limit at that point or is that a driver thing. If i can > solve the min value problem the same will probably apply for max value > only then i will start cutting the pedal cover ). > I know that i should really get the CH Pedals but they are not sold here in > Slovenia and i don't have a credit card to order them online. Does anyone > know if they are sold in Austria, Italy or Germany and at what price? > Please, help! > Borut

Why? More control that extra travel would give me. I know that pressure sensor needs no travel but then you control the pressure of your foot not the travel. How would it be if your pressure sensor could only detect lets say 0.1 - 1 Newton per square meter ( just speculation, i don't have a slightest idea of what pressure sensors can detect )? Pretty impossible, huh? Borut

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> Why would you want more travel?????????????? > a real brake pedal has nearly no travel!!!!! > i'm looking into removint the pot meter and replacing it with a pressure > sensor... > sudesh > > I'm trying to get the best out of that stupid pedals. First thing was to > > figure out how to increase the pedal travel for both brake and throttle > > pedal. I almost started cutting the hole into the pedal cover to make

room > > for more travel when i noticed that i could gain a few mm by simply removing > > the *** pads that stop the pedals when they are fully pressed. I removed > > them only to notice that it had no effect on the effective pedal travel. I > > can press the pedal some extra mm now but i noticed that pots reach their > > min value ( 0.0000 ) before they even hit the bottom. Why is that? Do i have > > to recalibrate ( although i don't know when or how i calibrated them in the > > first place ) ? How? I don't have an instrument to meassure the pots if they > > really reach their limit at that point or is that a driver thing. If i can > > solve the min value problem the same will probably apply for max value > > only then i will start cutting the pedal cover ). > > I know that i should really get the CH Pedals but they are not sold here in > > Slovenia and i don't have a credit card to order them online. Does anyone > > know if they are sold in Austria, Italy or Germany and at what price? > > Please, help! > > Borut

I bought mine from a reseller here in germany, but they sucked and were really stupid, so maybe you try this one in germany: http://www.profisoft.com/hardware/ch.html or check out the webpage at http://www.chproducts.com/wheretobuy/shop2.html. Lio

I don't know about the *** stop, but after cutting the hole to increase travel just reboot the PC or disconnect and reconnect the USB cable, and the pedals are recalibrated to Windows. Then start GPL and recalibrate there, and now you are done. You won't need to recalibrate again. I went out and bought the CH pedals, thinking this was the solution to the LWFF pedals. They are probably great for flight sims, but I think they are no good for car sims. They have almost no resistance (which you can fix with the half squash ball trick?) but more importantly the pivot point is almost half way up the pedal. So your ankle has to do an unnatural rocking motion to operate the pedals - as your toe moves down, your heel moves up! Also I think you would need to elevate the front of the pedal base slightly or bring the pedals closer to your chair. It just doesn't feel right. Some people love them, I find them unusable. Keith.

Keith, it took me a week to get used to the pivot motion of the ch pedals, but once you get the feeling, nothing can beat them imho. Even without the squashball (I didn't cut it in halves btw) I can brake very precise. The squashball makes braking just a little bit easier. Hang on to them, I'm positive you'll start to love them once you get used to them. Andre

I think the CH Pedals are great too and as Andre says, they took me a bit of time to get used to. I only found them usable after I made a support for them to raise the back by 1.5 inches. The added benefit of the support is that I made it so that it sits against the wall behind my computer desk so that the pedals are always in the same position. Cheers Phil -- http://www.youpies.co.uk

yep, same here. took me some days and a brake-pedal modification (added an elastic), but it was well worth it! Lio

Borut, have a look at my webpage. The changes are reversible and cost only US$2 Jens On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 01:17:23 +0100, "Borut Srebotnik" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Why? More control that extra travel would give me. I know that pressure >sensor needs no travel but then you control the pressure of your foot not<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor