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'Racing Sim of the Century'

18 posts by 17 people · 09 Feb 2000 - 17 Feb 2000

Was this ever discussed? Geoff Crammond's original F1GP would get my vote. First sim to utilise the Internet, first sim to have addons, editors and utils developed for it... not to mention that fact that it's a cracking good F1 sim! Still raced in offline leagues on the Amiga and PC today! I'm not sure even the original NASCAR Racing or maybe even GPL will last that long. DTR blaggers need not reply :) -- Rob Swindells "Add life to your days, not days to your life." "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work." "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it." "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
Chris Bloom 10 Feb 2000#518742
My brother had F1 GP on his ST. Was really good fun and considering other games that were available maybe better for its time than GP2 was when it came out. I would have to go with GPL though due to the fact that it is so realistic. Hehe:)
Brian Ewold 10 Feb 2000#518743
Hey what about Bill Elliot's NASCAR Challenge, it ran on my 386. :) Brian
MichaelJP 10 Feb 2000#518744
GPL - no doubt. For all the reasons mentioned in countless previous posts. - Michael
Rick Mather 10 Feb 2000#518745
I guess GPL would be the outright winner of such an award, but if we're talking relative to the technology available at the time then I agree with you entirely. F1GP was a huge milestone for racing sims. Rick. > Was this ever discussed? Geoff Crammond's original F1GP would get my > vote. First sim to utilise the Internet, first sim to have addons, > editors and utils developed for it... not to mention that fact that it's > a cracking good F1 sim! -- R K Mather
m.seery 10 Feb 2000#518746
It was good apart from the AI speeds. I remember lapping the entire field at the US GP the first time I ever raced there MS
Speedy Fast 10 Feb 2000#518747
On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:22:22 +0000, robswindells
Quoted text (9 lines)>Was this ever discussed? Geoff Crammond's original F1GP would get my >vote. First sim to utilise the Internet, first sim to have addons, >editors and utils developed for it... not to mention that fact that it's >a cracking good F1 sim! >Still raced in offline leagues on the Amiga and PC today! I'm not sure >even the original NASCAR Racing or maybe even GPL will last that long. >DTR blaggers need not reply :)
I think it would be "Indianapolis 500 - The Simulation". Brings back some great memories. What puts it over the top? It was programmed entirely in assembler. So it was ***y fast. It ran on my 8086 (8 MHz) with no problems. I really think it revoluationized racing simulations and thus F1GP et al were born. The physics were outstanding considering it ran on an 8086.
Quoted text (9 lines)>On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:22:22 +0000, robswindells >I think it would be "Indianapolis 500 - The Simulation". Brings back >some great memories. >What puts it over the top? It was programmed entirely in assembler. >So it was ***y fast. It ran on my 8086 (8 MHz) with no problems. I >really think it revoluationized racing simulations and thus F1GP et al >were born. The physics were outstanding considering it ran on an >8086.
Well, if we're getting into Sim Racing archeology here... ...Some people may remember, way back in the mists of time when an IBM PC came with 64K of RAM and a tape interface as standard a program called Revs. This was a simulation of the British Formula 3 championship, had all the major UK circuits in, benefitted from the input of a real life, sucessful (in British F3 anyway) racing driver, and was held in awe for the accuracy of both its physics and circuit layouts. It ran on a BBC Micro (32K or 64K RAM, 1MHz 6502 processor - say about the same level of technology as an Apple II). The author? One Geoff Crammond... -- JG
I think that F1GP was written before Indy 500 (it was released on the Amiga & Atari ST long before it made it to the PC). If we're talking about ground breakers though, then Geoff Crammond's first racing sim, Revs, should get the award IMO. This was the first attempt to actually simulate a form of racing (British F3) rather than produce a racing based arcade game. Cheers, Richard
GT2toXS 11 Feb 2000#518942
TIME Magazine would probably pick "Pole Position". "Racing Sim of the Century". Give me a break. Hey, I don't use that phrase, but you made me do it!!! I wonder what the racing sim of the previous century was? Oh well, still one more year to go... Maybe Gran Turismo 2000 will be the racing sim of the twentieth century. Adrian.
I'd have to say one of the games I played alot was a game called "Revs" for the Commodore 64. I believe Geoff Crammond had a hand in that game before Grand Prix/World Circuit. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
God, I remember downloading the demo of this game before it was released. It was an undrivable (!) version of San Marino. I watched it for hours and drooled like a mad person. As I recall it was released *just* in time for X-mas. I had a friend pick the game up for me on Xmas Eve '92 (is that right?). Changed my life forever! Simon
Quoted text (12 lines)> Was this ever discussed? Geoff Crammond's original F1GP would get my > vote. First sim to utilise the Internet, first sim to have addons, > editors and utils developed for it... not to mention that fact that it's > a cracking good F1 sim! > Still raced in offline leagues on the Amiga and PC today! I'm not sure > even the original NASCAR Racing or maybe even GPL will last that long. > DTR blaggers need not reply :) > -- > Rob Swindells
G 14 Feb 2000#519448
No, TIME magazine would find that GP2 had a huge number of votes, so they'd remove it from the list altogether. (based on what they did with the person of the century) cheers...
PC Powerplay voted GPL number 5, in the game of the century, GP2 was 11. Gpl outscored some big time games, unusual for a games mag, with Quake no. 1. GPL will always get my vote though, even though GP/GP2 were both great. Rafe Mc
GT2toXS 16 Feb 2000#519865
>>TIME Magazine would probably pick "Pole Position". >No, TIME magazine would find that GP2 had a huge number of >votes, so they'd remove it from the list altogether. >(based on what they did with the person of the century) Wandering way of topic here... Well, I'm not familiar with the particular sequence of events at TIME, so I would assume TIME forgot to specify anything in the requirements that indicated a requirement that the person be "positive", and so a lot of people voted for one of the most visible noted people in twentieth century history--often considered an embodiment of evil, known for his manipulation of the masses through the media. And so TIME was forced to explicitly make Bill Gates ineligible for the vote. Adrian.
Quoted text (19 lines)>>>TIME Magazine would probably pick "Pole Position". >>No, TIME magazine would find that GP2 had a huge number of >>votes, so they'd remove it from the list altogether. >>(based on what they did with the person of the century) >Wandering way of topic here... >Well, I'm not familiar with the particular sequence of events at TIME, >so I would assume TIME forgot to specify anything in the requirements >that indicated a requirement that the person be "positive", and so a >lot of people voted for one of the most visible noted people in >twentieth century history--often considered an embodiment of evil, >known for his manipulation of the masses through the media. >And so TIME was forced to explicitly make Bill Gates ineligible for the >vote. >Adrian.
LOL!!!!!! This one really made my day! /petern
David Ewing 16 Feb 2000#519867
Quoted text (9 lines)> Well, I'm not familiar with the particular sequence of events at TIME, > so I would assume TIME forgot to specify anything in the requirements > that indicated a requirement that the person be "positive", and so a > lot of people voted for one of the most visible noted people in > twentieth century history--often considered an embodiment of evil, > known for his manipulation of the masses through the media. > And so TIME was forced to explicitly make Bill Gates ineligible for the > vote.
LOL. Now that was funny. Lots of hilarious posts today. Everybody must be in a good mood. Did you all get laid on Valentine's Day? Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing *****************************************************
EldredP 17 Feb 2000#520065
Quoted text (15 lines)>> Well, I'm not familiar with the particular sequence of events at TIME, >> so I would assume TIME forgot to specify anything in the requirements >> that indicated a requirement that the person be "positive", and so a >> lot of people voted for one of the most visible noted people in >> twentieth century history--often considered an embodiment of evil, >> known for his manipulation of the masses through the media. >> And so TIME was forced to explicitly make Bill Gates ineligible for the >> vote. >LOL. Now that was funny. Lots of hilarious posts today. Everybody must be >in a good >mood. Did you all get laid on Valentine's Day? >Dave Ewing
Probably not. That means they had more time to think up the jokes...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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