GPL and graphic card......... yes, again :)

Hi freaks, Atm I'm using an old ATI PCI in combination with an Orchid Righteous 3D, but I want to get an Hauppauge WinTV DVBs to try out Internet via Satellite, hoping for better and faster connections when hosting. Problem is, no more vacant PCI-Slot left to plug it in, so I want to kick the V1 as well as the ATI in the bin and get an AGP-graphics-card. Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim? In GPL I can only run max 640x480 due to limitations of my beamer (projector), so resolution doesn't matter to me, nor do any other applications or games, nor does the price as I buy only the best available on the market as u can see above, but I only buy every 2 years or so :) BTW got a P2 400 running, don't intend to replace that one yet, only about 1 year old. Any suggestions, folks? Has any1 got the WinTV DVBs running already and hosted GPL with it? EON? IP? Who is faster? cya and ty Maaki

I've heard that satellite connections have high latency (600 + ) so not good for games, But i've read that one year ago so it could have changed _ Jarno Markus Stiepel wrote:

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> Hi freaks, > Atm I'm using an old ATI PCI in combination with an Orchid Righteous 3D, but > I want to get an Hauppauge WinTV DVBs to try out Internet via Satellite, > hoping for better and faster connections when hosting. Problem is, no more > vacant PCI-Slot left to plug it in, so I want to kick the V1 as well as the > ATI in the bin and get an AGP-graphics-card. > Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim? In > GPL I can only run max 640x480 due to limitations of my beamer (projector), > so resolution doesn't matter to me, nor do any other applications or games, > nor does the price as I buy only the best available on the market as u can > see above, but I only buy every 2 years or so :) BTW got a P2 400 running, > don't intend to replace that one yet, only about 1 year old. Any > suggestions, folks? > > Has any1 got the WinTV DVBs running already and hosted GPL with it? EON? IP? > Who is faster? > > cya and ty > Maaki

Satellite, by it's very nature will be useless for online gaming. There is a high latency and sending data is only as fast as your modem. For downloading it is unbelievably fast though. Cheers, ...Colin Markus Stiepel <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:893eam$rao$[email hidden]... > Hi freaks, > Atm I'm using an old ATI PCI in combination with an Orchid Righteous 3D,but > I want to get an Hauppauge WinTV DVBs to try out Internet via Satellite, > hoping for better and faster connections when hosting. Problem is, no more > vacant PCI-Slot left to plug it in, so I want to kick the V1 as well asthe > ATI in the bin and get an AGP-graphics-card. > Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim? In > GPL I can only run max 640x480 due to limitations of my beamer(projector), > so resolution doesn't matter to me, nor do any other applications orgames, > nor does the price as I buy only the best available on the market as u can > see above, but I only buy every 2 years or so :) BTW got a P2 400running, > don't intend to replace that one yet, only about 1 year old. Any > suggestions, folks? > > Has any1 got the WinTV DVBs running already and hosted GPL with it? EON?IP? > Who is faster? > > cya and ty > Maaki > >

I wouldn't bet on it improving. A large part(~.25s) of that time is the signal travelling up to the sattelite and from the sattelite to your dish, add to that the normal delays in the internet to the sattelite uplink station. -Bj�rn "Jarno Bierman" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet news:[email hidden]... > I've heard that satellite connections have high latency (600 + ) > so not good for games, But i've read that one year ago so it could havechanged

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> > _ > Jarno > > Markus Stiepel wrote: > > > Hi freaks, > > Atm I'm using an old ATI PCI in combination with an Orchid Righteous 3D,

but > > I want to get an Hauppauge WinTV DVBs to try out Internet via Satellite, > > hoping for better and faster connections when hosting. Problem is, nomore > > vacant PCI-Slot left to plug it in, so I want to kick the V1 as well asthe > > ATI in the bin and get an AGP-graphics-card. > > Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim?In > > GPL I can only run max 640x480 due to limitations of my beamer(projector), > > so resolution doesn't matter to me, nor do any other applications orgames, > > nor does the price as I buy only the best available on the market as ucan > > see above, but I only buy every 2 years or so :) BTW got a P2 400running, > > don't intend to replace that one yet, only about 1 year old. Any > > suggestions, folks? > > > > Has any1 got the WinTV DVBs running already and hosted GPL with it? EON?IP? > > Who is faster? > > > > cya and ty > > Maaki >

Jarno Bierman <[email hidden]> schreef in artikel <[email hidden]>... > I've heard that satellite connections have high latency (600 + ) > so not good for games, But i've read that one year ago so it could havechanged Not very likely... communication sattelites circle the earth at 28.000 kms over the surface of the earth. That means the beam takes at least 1/10th of a second to even get to the sattelite (28.000 divided by the speed of light). Then another 10th back to Earth, then to the server, which replies (ping!), then back to the sattelite (another 10th), then back to earth. So you lost already 4/10th sending your packet to space and back. Combined with some routers and other stuff, 0.5 secs is about minimum. Compared to the 100ms that ADSL should bring you, you see satellite will never be a feasible option.

"Markus Stiepel" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi freaks, >Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim? For GPL your best choice is V3 at the moment. In your case I would wait for F1 2000 (begin March), and decide then. The GeForce is a great card, but it has features which aren't used by games right now (T&L for example), so I wouldn't consider it for the moment. You also could wait for the 3dFX V5 (skip V4!), which will have Full Screen Anti Aliasing, and that can improve the image quality of GPL a lot! Especially in your case, using 640x480... Remco

> >Hi freaks, > >Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim?

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> For GPL your best choice is V3 at the moment. In your case I would > wait for F1 2000 (begin March), and decide then. The GeForce is a > great card, but it has features which aren't used by games right now > (T&L for example), so I wouldn't consider it for the moment. You also > could wait for the 3dFX V5 (skip V4!), which will have Full Screen > Anti Aliasing, and that can improve the image quality of GPL a lot! > Especially in your case, using 640x480...

Also for GPL the V3 2000 is sufficient. From what I observe when OC-ing it which seems to be comfirmed by other people here then there is no (noticeable) performance improvement when the V3 clock rate is increased. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Hi Markus, The V3 suits to your CPU and should give you a 36 fps during race (not the start) with all details on at 1024 X ??? Seen it, bought it, never regret it :-)) Jens BTW There is a benchmark-page at http://www.dirkwagner.de/benchmark/ On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:13:18 +0100, "Markus Stiepel" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi freaks, >Atm I'm using an old ATI PCI in combination with an Orchid Righteous 3D, but >I want to get an Hauppauge WinTV DVBs to try out Internet via Satellite, >hoping for better and faster connections when hosting. Problem is, no more >vacant PCI-Slot left to plug it in, so I want to kick the V1 as well as the >ATI in the bin and get an AGP-graphics-card. >Question: Which one? Voodoo3? GeForce? Wait for GP3? Wait for EA's sim? In

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Would be the same what I have in the moment. Ping between 350 and 700 (still raceable). Jens On 24 Feb 2000 16:24:15 GMT, "�artijn" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> >you lost already 4/10th sending your packet to space and back. Combined >with some routers and other stuff, 0.5 secs is about minimum. Compared to >the 100ms that ADSL should bring you, you see satellite will never be a >feasible option. --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor