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Re: N3 Martinsville help

11 posts by 5 people · 29 Feb 2000 - 03 Mar 2000

Jim Erb 29 Feb 2000#288889
"Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9t%u4.391$[email hidden]... > Whats the point of your season, How can you have fun with a 300 pointlead > after 8 races? Don't you want some competition? Isn't the idea of not > winning and really having to work for it sound exciting to you? Ithink you > are ready to run 100% strength. And I bet you also will quit andstart over > if you wreck. *SPLONK!*
Jim Erb 29 Feb 2000#289099
I'm currently on my 8th race of the 2000 season, racing at 99% opponent strength. 1 pole, 2 wins, 7 top 10's and a 300+ points lead. I get to Martinsville and I qualify dead last, and that's where I finish in test races!!! WTH is wrong? Is something hosed with the AI on this track? Or is it me? I've downloaded every setup I can find on the web, though most are N2 setups that the webowners say will work fine in N3. *bzzzt* Wrong. I've found none that will get me out of running dead last. Any help greatly appreciated. Jim
Jim Erb 29 Feb 2000#289117
"Dean Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:33Yu4.1511$[email hidden]... > Now I have to go try. I'll let you know the results. I actually like > Martinsville, I've race it online again humans, but never run a fullrace > against the AI. How long is the race? > > Dean Looks like 500 laps. Jim
Dean Williams 29 Feb 2000 22:50 UTC#289103
Now I have to go try. I'll let you know the results. I actually like Martinsville, I've race it online again humans, but never run a full race against the AI. How long is the race? Dean [email hidden] wrote in message <89hhsu$jro$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (21 lines)> I'm currently on my 8th race of the 2000 season, racing at 99% >opponent strength. 1 pole, 2 wins, 7 top 10's and a 300+ points lead. > > I get to Martinsville and I qualify dead last, and that's where I >finish in test races!!! > > WTH is wrong? Is something hosed with the AI on this track? Or is it >me? > > I've downloaded every setup I can find on the web, though most are N2 >setups that the webowners say will work fine in N3. *bzzzt* Wrong. > > I've found none that will get me out of running dead last. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Jim > > > >
Dean Williams 29 Feb 2000 23:34 UTC#289118
You're running 100% length. Oh man, you're brave. I'll run a 50% and see how I do. [email hidden] wrote in message <89hkug$qch$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (15 lines)> >"Dean Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:33Yu4.1511$[email hidden]... >> Now I have to go try. I'll let you know the results. I actually like >> Martinsville, I've race it online again humans, but never run a full >race >> against the AI. How long is the race? >> >> Dean > > Looks like 500 laps. > > Jim > >
Kevin Anderson 01 Mar 2000 02:43 UTC#288933
Whats the point of your season, How can you have fun with a 300 point lead after 8 races? Don't you want some competition? Isn't the idea of not winning and really having to work for it sound exciting to you? I think you are ready to run 100% strength. And I bet you also will quit and start over if you wreck. You need to slow down at marty to go faster, concentrate on getting on the gas early coming out of the turns to maximize speed down the straight. You will have to lose some mid corner speed but it is worth it. -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] --------------------------------------------------- DK-Racing #15 K_Anderson ------------------------------------------------- http://www.awtech.net/ <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:89hhsu$jro$[email hidden]... > I'm currently on my 8th race of the 2000 season, racing at 99% > opponent strength. 1 pole, 2 wins, 7 top 10's and a 300+ points lead. > > I get to Martinsville and I qualify dead last, and that's where I > finish in test races!!! > > WTH is wrong? Is something hosed with the AI on this track? Or is it > me? > > I've downloaded every setup I can find on the web, though most are N2 > setups that the webowners say will work fine in N3. *bzzzt* Wrong. > > I've found none that will get me out of running dead last. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Jim > > > >
Well, I drove the race you're trying to do tonight and I can't really see what's going wrong for you. I haven't driven N3 much at all, but Martinsville is my favorite short oval, so I thought I'd have a go. Using your race settings and the game-supplied "Ace" setup I drove home an 18th finishing position, having started 31st on the grid. Now, if I were leading the Winston Cup by 300 points, I wouldn't be too disappointed by that(only place I can consistently beat the 99% AI is at Loudon).<g> So what's the trick to Martinsville? -First off, let me say I'm no expert on simulated NASCAR driving (I ventured on TEN a couple of times and got my behind thoroughly waxed) and I found pulling off my preferred line consistently a lot harder than in N99 (the N3 driving model *IS* different!). The trick to Martinsville, IMO, is to prevent yourself from getting rattled. Just reel off the laps and stay out of trouble. The AI seem incredibly quick off the mark when the green drops, but if you conserve your tyres, you'll get them back when the fuel load diminishes. I try to use consecutive yellows to get laps back and try to run my own race strategy/pitstop wise (had some luck this time). As for the line I go by the (well known??) dogma of "the first third of the corner is wide", i.e. when not pressed I take a wide, trailbraking entry which, if unchecked, would see me understeer into the wall at a tangent from the apex. As soon as the fronts start to lose grip, however, I back out of it, turn quite sharply for a late apex and gun it down the next straight (no downshifting). If there's a single mistake to make at any track (but especially crucial at Martinsville), it's using the speedo/gear indicator (bottom left of screen) as a gauge whether you're gonna make the turn or not. Feel the grip and look well ahead. Try to keep a tight line out of the corner if challenged to the inside to prevent yourself from being overtaken, i.e. don't give them room to really put the power down (if they're driving 'round you on the outside I truly wonder how you got the lead you have). Good luck! Jan. ---- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:89hhsu$jro$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> I'm currently on my 8th race of the 2000 season, racing at 99% > opponent strength. 1 pole, 2 wins, 7 top 10's and a 300+ points lead. > > I get to Martinsville and I qualify dead last, and that's where I > finish in test races!!! > > WTH is wrong? Is something hosed with the AI on this track? Or is it > me? > > I've downloaded every setup I can find on the web, though most are N2 > setups that the webowners say will work fine in N3. *bzzzt* Wrong. > > I've found none that will get me out of running dead last. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Jim > > > >
Jim Erb 03 Mar 2000#288440
Found the problem after I went on to California and got smoked there to. Prior to running Martinsville I had downloaded a set of 2000 Cup cars. The skill ratings were rather generous to say the least. Set them back in line with the original car set and the game balance returned. Thanks for the driving tips, though. Jim "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, > > I drove the race you're trying to do tonight and I can't really seewhat's > going wrong for you. I haven't driven N3 much at all, but Martinsvilleis my > favorite short oval, so I thought I'd have a go. Using your racesettings > and the game-supplied "Ace" setup I drove home an 18th finishingposition, > having started 31st on the grid. Now, if I were leading the WinstonCup by > 300 points, I wouldn't be too disappointed by that(only place I can > consistently beat the 99% AI is at Loudon).<g> > > So what's the trick to Martinsville? -First off, let me say I'm noexpert on > simulated NASCAR driving (I ventured on TEN a couple of times and gotmy > behind thoroughly waxed) and I found pulling off my preferred line > consistently a lot harder than in N99 (the N3 driving model *IS* > different!). The trick to Martinsville, IMO, is to prevent yourselffrom > getting rattled. Just reel off the laps and stay out of trouble. TheAI seem > incredibly quick off the mark when the green drops, but if youconserve > your tyres, you'll get them back when the fuel load diminishes. I tryto use > consecutive yellows to get laps back and try to run my own race > strategy/pitstop wise (had some luck this time). > > As for the line I go by the (well known??) dogma of "the first thirdof the > corner is wide", i.e. when not pressed I take a wide, trailbrakingentry > which, if unchecked, would see me understeer into the wall at atangent from > the apex. As soon as the fronts start to lose grip, however, I backout of > it, turn quite sharply for a late apex and gun it down the nextstraight (no > downshifting). > > If there's a single mistake to make at any track (but especiallycrucial at > Martinsville), it's using the speedo/gear indicator (bottom left ofscreen) > as a gauge whether you're gonna make the turn or not. Feel the gripand look > well ahead. Try to keep a tight line out of the corner if challengedto the > inside to prevent yourself from being overtaken, i.e. don't give themroom > to really put the power down (if they're driving 'round you on theoutside I
Quoted text (7 lines)> truly wonder how you got the lead you have). > > Good luck! > > Jan. > ---- > <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:89hhsu$jro$[email hidden]... > > I'm currently on my 8th race of the 2000 season, racing at 99% > > opponent strength. 1 pole, 2 wins, 7 top 10's and a 300+ pointslead. > > > > I get to Martinsville and I qualify dead last, and that's where I > > finish in test races!!! > > > > WTH is wrong? Is something hosed with the AI on this track? Or isit > > me? > > > > I've downloaded every setup I can find on the web, though mostare N2
Quoted text (13 lines)> > setups that the webowners say will work fine in N3. *bzzzt* Wrong. > > > > I've found none that will get me out of running dead last. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > >
Phew! -I thought something really weird was up @ your place as you sounded quite a lot quicker than me and I honestly couldn't imagine you wouldn't be able to get the knack of driving Martinsville by yourself. Drop us a line when you win the WC. Jan. ---- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:89nkrn$l84$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Found the problem after I went on to California and got smoked there > to. Prior to running Martinsville I had downloaded a set of 2000 Cup > cars. The skill ratings were rather generous to say the least. Set them > back in line with the original car set and the game balance returned. > Thanks for the driving tips, though. > > Jim > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > <Snip>

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