Re: Request a snapshot of openwheel sims

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>I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I >am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently >relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to it >in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy newer >open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon? > > >

ICR2, GP2, GPL, MGPRS2, coming soon - F1-2000 / GP3 WE NEED A NEW CART SIM DAMN IT!!

I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to it in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy newer open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?

> I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I > am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently > relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references toit > in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthynewer > open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon? Actually just one year and it's still the best... --Pierce

GPL is still the pinnacle driving/racing sims for those whose primary interest is the simulation of driving and racing. The reason is simply it's superior physics modeling. But be warned, GPL requires serious effort to master so it can be very frustrating early on. With liberal quantities of time, energy and talent applied, the rewards are substantial. This doesn't mean other sims aren't fun to play but they are all pretenders to the throne....for now. Marty BandCamp wrote: > I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I > am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently > relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to it > in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy newer > open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?

Probably the most anticipated F1 sim due out is Grand Prix 3. Hopefully it'll be out in the next couple months. More info and screenshots at http://www.grandprix3.com/

F12000 is due to be released at the end of the month, and GP3 this summer. Forget the rest. David G Fisher "BandCamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:89ju9g$j0h$[email hidden]... > I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I > am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently > relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references toit > in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthynewer > open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon? > >

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > F12000 is due to be released at the end of the month, and GP3 this summer. > Forget the rest. At the exception of Grand Prix Legends, of course, which is the actual reference for the last year in terms of racing simulators. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:24:18 GMT David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote: % F12000 is due to be released at the end of the month, and GP3 this summer. % Forget the rest. Get GPL and then when F1 2000 comes out the end of this month watch this group for feedback. Do the same for GP3 when it comes out late this year (if they even make that projected date). Until we get our hot little hands and heavy feet on F1 2000 & GP3, GPL rules the roost..... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Forget the rest? Forget GPL? Good advice as usual David... Andre

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>F12000 is due to be released at the end of the month, and GP3 this summer. >Forget the rest. >David G Fisher >> I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I >> am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently >> relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to >it >> in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy >newer >> open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?

MS/TRi didn't mind my "advice". Magnetic Fields seemed ok with it. ISI recently asked me if I'd be willing to give my "advice" as well. Two months ago I would of suggested GPL to the originator of this thread, but not now with F12000 coming very soon, and GP3 just a few months away. He DID say, "its (GPL) a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy newer open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?" With the following recently released or on their way soon, I find it hard to recommend a sim to him that's a year and a half old: F12000, RC2000, WSC, Superbikes2000, Dirt Track Racing, Leadfoot, NFS5, and CM2. If you read his post again, he already knows about GPL but sounds like he's looking for a sim based on modern cars, that is newer than GPL. "I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to it in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy newer open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?" What amuses me is that the ONLY people who ever complain at me about anything I say regarding sims are the GPL fanatics. Very sensitive group. Especially considering the fact that I think (and have said many, many times) that GPL is an excellent sim. I just don't get misty eyed over it's physics code, or have dillusions that if I master it, it means that I can crush Schumacher if given the chance. David G Fisher

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> Forget the rest? > Forget GPL? > Good advice as usual David... > Andre > >F12000 is due to be released at the end of the month, and GP3 this

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> >Forget the rest. > >David G Fisher > >> I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers

today). I > >> am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently > >> relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to > >it > >> in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy > >newer > >> open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?

LOOK everyone, the magic word has transmogrified, from "game," to "sim." David GPL Fisher's Official Blessing: Reason # 134 to Go On Living --DK

David G Fisher wrote: > > MS/TRi didn't mind my "advice". ---major snip ...and what a cracker of a sim it turned out to be...myabe not the best choice for your CV that one ...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

If you want CART then the best is a 4 yr old sim called Indycar Racing II from Papyrus, the same makers as GPL. The problem is it isn't readily available anymore, but if you can find it then you can get current cars. For info on that sim go to http://www.tptcc.com/crc/ For more open wheel stuff http://208.178.180.33/ And sim racing yadda yadda http://www.simracing.com/ For F1 the best is GP2 http://www.grandprix2.com/ And what will be the best current F1 sim, http://gp3.gamestats.com/ You should check out this too... http://www.powersims.com/ check the section titled World Sports Car enjoy! John Moore > I am brand new to this group (just got my first batch of headers today). I > am an F1 and Cart fan. Can you give me a snapshot on what is currently > relevant in open-wheel sims? I know of GPL, and see lots of references to it > in this group, but its a couple of years old. Is there not any worthy newer > open-wheel sims? Now or to be released soon?

I was referring to both CPR and MTM2. It's a shame that TRI and MS parted ways because I have no doubt that a CPR2 could of been excellent. MTM2 is a brilliant arcade/sim racer and if you look at all of TRI's titles, it's obvious they are a very, very talented group of people. David G Fisher "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > MS/TRi didn't mind my "advice". ---major snip > > ...and what a cracker of a sim it turned out to be...myabe not the best > choice for your CV that one ...:-) > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > MTM2 is a brilliant arcade/sim racer and if you look at all of TRI'stitles, > it's obvious they are a very, very talented group of people. But of course, if we go with your theory, you find it hard to recommend MTM2 since it's older than GPL, no? ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > MTM2 is a brilliant arcade/sim racer and if you look at all of TRI's > titles, > > it's obvious they are a very, very talented group of people. > > > But of course, if we go with your theory, you find it hard to recommend

MTM2 > since it's older than GPL, no? ;-) Yes, I would find it hard to recommend MTM2 now. I would say to him though to keep an eye on any new titles from TRI and Papyrus. Specifically N4. I said in another thread that I have no interest in NASCAR, but I'm sure I'll pick up a copy of N4 out of curiosity. I bet that online racing with a sim like N4 could be really excellent. I'm just not interested in the real life NASCAR series. David G Fisher

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Yes, I would find it hard to recommend MTM2 now. Ok good ;) > I would say to him though to keep an eye on any new titles from TRI and > Papyrus. Specifically N4. I said in another thread that I have no interest > in NASCAR, but I'm sure I'll pick up a copy of N4 out of curiosity. I bet > that online racing with a sim like N4 could be really excellent. I'm just > not interested in the real life NASCAR series. It's just a matter of time before the tide is turning. I do hope, even if it's a little utopian, that the majority of 2000 racing simulator will be quality. Whatever TRI offers, WSC, any Papyrus title with the new game engine (that one can't fail I say), GP3, and probably the couple of unexpected hits "a la DTR". But meanwhile, I say that shelving 15$ while waiting those months for GPL is a bloody good thing, especially when you'll start importing GPL tracks into N4. Don't tell me David you wouldn't like to drive SPA or the RING with a stock-car? ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

I don't like stock cars but you're right, the thought of racing them on Spa or the Ring could make for some excellent, close, fun, online racing. So when is N4 supposed to be released? David G Fisher

Stock Cars at the 'Ring? hahaha! Is that with the pace lap at the start? Zzzzzzzz...... >I don't like stock cars but you're right, the thought of racing them on Spa >or the Ring could make for some excellent, close, fun, online racing. <snipped>

>But meanwhile, I say that shelving 15$ while waiting those months for GPL is >a ***y good thing, especially when you'll start importing GPL tracks into >N4. Don't tell me David you wouldn't like to drive SPA or the RING with a >stock-car? ;) Spa *maybe*. The Ring? No way - I have enough problems with the Ferrari...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.