Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport $24.99 @ Tiger Direct

The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than the NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say this from an informed point of view). This is basically the same wheel as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct has them for only $24.99 -- check it out at: http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a second wheel, for that matter). Those of you who have been wanting a wheel but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this. FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their shipping. -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Doug, I'm currently using the Super Sport with my "slow" computer for head-to- head action with Viper Racing and DTR -- the system is an AMD K6-266 with Windows 98, DirectX 7 (not sure if I've upgraded to 7a yet), and a generic Soundblaster-compatible sound card. I've also used it on my "fast" system, which is equipped with a PDPI L4 digital game port, but I don't know if I had DX7 installed at the time. The Super Sport's wheel and steering shaft does "wobble" a bit compared to my TSW and TSW2 rigs, but I think it seems more solid than my NASCAR Pro wheel. Frankly, after using the TSW products, ALL plastic wheels seem somewhat "fragile" to me, but I haven't found the Super Sport to be any worse than the Mad Catz Andretti wheel, the Logitech Wingman, or the ACT Labs RS wheels. The output is pretty solid on my Super Sport wheel, even with a generic sound card game port -- I will try to hook it up to my other computer sometime this weekend to try to shed some light on the compatibility issue with digital game ports and DX7. I'll let you know what I find on thst. Hope this helps a bit. -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, Doug Schneider <[email hidden]> wrote: > This is interesting. We sold three of these wheels and all three were > returned. The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to thewheel > after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter. Thesloppiness I > can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in theassembly > coupled with some rather large, strong customers going throughsuccessive > bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic. The jitter seems to occur when asound > card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7. > Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped. The wheel seems stable andhappy > enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters. > Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got) > indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the valuesjump > around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it lookslike an > average, crappy, noisy pot. Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheelsbefore > without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog > gameports. > > I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using thiswheel on, > what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX. It's been awhile, but > if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6.Any > info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > Doug > > PS: The pedals are OK. They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but Istill > haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of mytrusty old > T2 pedals. > > [email hidden] wrote: > > > The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much > > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package thanthe > > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say > > this from an informed point of view). This is basically the samewheel > > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Directhas > > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at: > > > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp > > > > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or asecond > > wheel, for that matter). Those of you who have been wanting a wheel > > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this. > > > > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good > > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on theirshipping.

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This is interesting. We sold three of these wheels and all three were returned. The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the wheel after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter. The sloppiness I can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the assembly coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through successive bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic. The jitter seems to occur when a sound card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7. Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped. The wheel seems stable and happy enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters. Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got) indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values jump around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks like an average, crappy, noisy pot. Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels before without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog gameports. I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this wheel on, what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX. It's been a while, but if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Doug PS: The pedals are OK. They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I still haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my trusty old T2 pedals. [email hidden] wrote:

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> The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than the > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say > this from an informed point of view). This is basically the same wheel > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct has > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at: > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp > > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a second > wheel, for that matter). Those of you who have been wanting a wheel > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this. > > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their shipping. > > -- JB > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Doug

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> Doug, > I'm currently using the Super Sport with my "slow" computer for head-to- > head action with Viper Racing and DTR -- the system is an AMD K6-266 > with Windows 98, DirectX 7 (not sure if I've upgraded to 7a yet), and a > generic Soundblaster-compatible sound card. I've also used it on my > "fast" system, which is equipped with a PDPI L4 digital game port, but > I don't know if I had DX7 installed at the time. > The Super Sport's wheel and steering shaft does "wobble" a bit compared > to my TSW and TSW2 rigs, but I think it seems more solid than my NASCAR > Pro wheel. Frankly, after using the TSW products, ALL plastic wheels > seem somewhat "fragile" to me, but I haven't found the Super Sport to > be any worse than the Mad Catz Andretti wheel, the Logitech Wingman, or > the ACT Labs RS wheels. > The output is pretty solid on my Super Sport wheel, even with a generic > sound card game port -- I will try to hook it up to my other computer > sometime this weekend to try to shed some light on the compatibility > issue with digital game ports and DX7. I'll let you know what I find > on thst. > Hope this helps a bit. > -- JB > > This is interesting. We sold three of these wheels and all three were > > returned. The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the > wheel > > after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter. The > sloppiness I > > can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the > assembly > > coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through > successive > > bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic. The jitter seems to occur when a > sound > > card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7. > > Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped. The wheel seems stable and > happy > > enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters. > > Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got) > > indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values > jump > > around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks > like an > > average, crappy, noisy pot. Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels > before > > without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog > > gameports. > > I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this > wheel on, > > what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX. It's been a > while, but > > if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6. > Any > > info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > Doug > > PS: The pedals are OK. They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I > still > > haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my > trusty old > > T2 pedals. > > > The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much > > > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than > the > > > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say > > > this from an informed point of view). This is basically the same > wheel > > > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct > has > > > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at: > > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp > > > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a > second > > > wheel, for that matter). Those of you who have been wanting a wheel > > > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this. > > > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good > > > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their > shipping. > > > -- JB > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

I was using a Super Sport before I got my Act Labs Force Feedback. The pots in the TM wheel were crap. TM is notorious for good gear for the money but with crappy pots. I've replaced dozens in my TM flight gear though out the years. I had to open and clean out the pot a few times before I finally I ordered a replacement pot and the thing worked flawlessly. I'm not sure if I just got lucky and got a good one or they found some different pots that work much better. I was glad to pass down to my brother a fine working wheel. Miss the pedals though. Jim D. >This is interesting. We sold three of these wheels and all three were >returned. The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the wheel >after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter. The sloppiness I

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>can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the assembly >coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through successive >bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic. The jitter seems to occur when a sound >card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7. >Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped. The wheel seems stable and happy >enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters. >Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got) >indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values jump >around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks like an >average, crappy, noisy pot. Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels before >without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog >gameports. >I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this wheel on, >what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX. It's been a while, but >if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with DirectX6. Any >info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > Doug >PS: The pedals are OK. They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I still >haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my trusty

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>T2 pedals. >> The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel -- much >> better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than the >> NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say >> this from an informed point of view). This is basically the same wheel >> as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct has >> them for only $24.99 -- check it out at: >> http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp >> Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a second >> wheel, for that matter). Those of you who have been wanting a wheel >> but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this. >> FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good >> customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their shipping. >> -- JB >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >> Before you buy.

Doug, FYI, I've been using the Super Sport on my "fast" computer for about a week now, with both my generic sound card joystick port AND my PDPI card (switching back-and-forth, that is). I'm running DX7.0a and Windows 98, and it works fine -- VERY stable, too (even with just the sound card). Hope this helps a bit. -- JB

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> Thanks for the info, much appreciated. > Doug > > Doug, > > I'm currently using the Super Sport with my "slow" computer for

head-to- > > head action with Viper Racing and DTR -- the system is an AMD K6-266 > > with Windows 98, DirectX 7 (not sure if I've upgraded to 7a yet), and a > > generic Soundblaster-compatible sound card. I've also used it on my > > "fast" system, which is equipped with a PDPI L4 digital game port, but > > I don't know if I had DX7 installed at the time. > > The Super Sport's wheel and steering shaft does "wobble" a bit compared > > to my TSW and TSW2 rigs, but I think it seems more solid than my NASCAR > > Pro wheel. Frankly, after using the TSW products, ALL plastic wheels > > seem somewhat "fragile" to me, but I haven't found the Super Sport to > > be any worse than the Mad Catz Andretti wheel, the Logitech Wingman, or > > the ACT Labs RS wheels. > > The output is pretty solid on my Super Sport wheel, even with a generic > > sound card game port -- I will try to hook it up to my other computer > > sometime this weekend to try to shed some light on the compatibility > > issue with digital game ports and DX7. I'll let you know what I find

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> > on thst. > > Hope this helps a bit. > > -- JB > > > This is interesting. We sold three of these wheels and all three

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> > > returned. The common complaints were a loose, sloppy feel to the > > wheel > > > after minimal use, and unacceptable, uncorrectable jitter. The > > sloppiness I > > > can only attribute the the lack of metal bushings anywhere in the > > assembly > > > coupled with some rather large, strong customers going through > > successive > > > bouts of GPL opposite-lock panic. The jitter seems to occur when

a > > sound > > > card with a digital gameport is used in conjunction with DirectX7. > > > Upgrading to DirectX7a has not helped. The wheel seems stable and > > happy > > > enough when used with an older analog gameport, no spikes or jitters. > > > Checking the steering pot with an ohm meter (sorry, it's all I've got) > > > indicates that the pot itself is not of very high quality, the values > > jump > > > around and the linearity leaves something to be desired, it looks > > like an > > > average, crappy, noisy pot. Mind you, I've used crappy-pot wheels > > before > > > without the jitter problems, but always on old sound cards with analog

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> > > gameports. > > > I would very much like to know what system(s) you are using this > > wheel on, > > > what kind of gameport, and what version of DirectX. It's been a > > while, but > > > if memory serves these wheels were working just fine with

DirectX6. > > Any > > > info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > > Doug > > > PS: The pedals are OK. They're not as bad as the ACT pedals, but I

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> > still > > > haven't used anything that compares with the throw and feel of my > > trusty old > > > T2 pedals. > > > > The Thrustmaster NASCAR Super Sport is a great little wheel --

much > > > > better pedals than the Charger, and a better overall package than > > the > > > > NASCAR Pro (I have both a Super Sport and a NASCAR Pro, so I can say > > > > this from an informed point of view). This is basically the same > > wheel > > > > as the new NASCAR Digital, minus the digital part, and Tiger Direct

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> > has > > > > them for only $24.99 -- check it out at: > > > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/mil011.asp > > > > Definitely a bargain if you're in the market for a wheel (or a > > second > > > > wheel, for that matter). Those of you who have been wanting a

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> > > > but couldn't afford the price of entry should jump on this. > > > > FYI, I've bought from Tiger Direct before, and they have a good > > > > customer service department, and they're pretty quick on their > > shipping. > > > > -- JB > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > Before you buy. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

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