Re: N3 beta forum dead?

I never tried the beta patch. Exactly what improvements have *YOU* seen? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com Philster <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Are you kidding? Don't you see improvements from the original game? > > Archangel00 wrote: > > > > Thanks. > > I kinda had that feeling too. > > To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. > > Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things the way > > they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you have to offer. > > > > "Stiff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:dodx4.56597$[email hidden]... > > > It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon. > > > "Archangel00" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:tbdx4.67776$[email hidden]... > > > > Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. > > > > I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts since > > then > > > > that haven't shown up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Philippe Sergerie > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > ICQ#: 16192023

Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts since then that haven't shown up.

It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon.

Thanks. I kinda had that feeling too. To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things the way they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you have to offer. > It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon. > > Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. > > I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts since then > > that haven't shown up.

Are you kidding? Don't you see improvements from the original game? Archangel00 wrote:

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> > Thanks. > I kinda had that feeling too. > To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. > Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things the way > they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you have to offer. > > "Stiff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dodx4.56597$[email hidden]... > > It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon. > > "Archangel00" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:tbdx4.67776$[email hidden]... > > > Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. > > > I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts since > then > > > that haven't shown up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

-- Philippe Sergerie Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ#: 16192023

Well.... As the process went on, warping lessened for me and connection issues seemed to improve. That was until the last two patches that were released very close together. For me, I've seen worse racing conditions with the last patch 1106 than 1104. Others reported the same thing. Not sure how widespread the issue is/was. Unfortunately Papy didn't seem to want to address it. 1106 seems closer to 'out of the box' N3 while 1104 was closer to TEN (for me). It would have been nice to have gotten an answer or heard something from them regarding the issue.. that they looked into it... or it was too late... or ~something~. They didn't respond. There was some push on the brd for some backwards testing to determine if the people noticing a degradation of online gameplay with 1106 would see improvement with 1104 (or a stealthly reissued 1104 in order to not 'bias' the testers). But nothing was heard from Papy on the issue. I hate to slam Papy considering all the good they have done with racing simulations but their silence on the 1104 vs 1106 connectivity issue reminded me of the MS CPR 'beta test'. Maybe there was a common denominator amongst those who had issues with 1106 connectivity quality but Papy's ignoring the posts on the subject effectively kept the issue from being 'sussed out' or resolved. If 1106 is indeed the release version then I can say... for whatever reason... 1104 was the better OVERALL patch (for me). Others have said likewise. Alan Greg Cisko wrote:

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> > I never tried the beta patch. Exactly what improvements have *YOU* > seen? > > -- > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > Philster <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Are you kidding? Don't you see improvements from the original game? > > > > Archangel00 wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. > > > I kinda had that feeling too. > > > To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. > > > Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things the > way > > > they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you have to > offer. > > > > > > "Stiff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:dodx4.56597$[email hidden]... > > > > It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon. > > > > "Archangel00" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:tbdx4.67776$[email hidden]... > > > > > Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. > > > > > I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts > since > > > then > > > > > that haven't shown up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Philippe Sergerie > > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > > ICQ#: 16192023

Archangel00 wrote:

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> > Thanks. > I kinda had that feeling too. > To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. > Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things the way > they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you have to offer. > >

I find 1106 to be far and away the best release of N3 we have used in our league. Connectivity, car response, car behavior, all are far better than any other version that has been released to date. Can race side by side inches apart without wrecking as long as you have taken the time to tune your internet connection. If you are not capable of doing that, it's not Papyrus's fault. Almost all of the problems any of our drivers have, connection wise, are due to using winmodems instead of on-board controller based modems. Any problems we run into now are generally with WON and you can always opt to connect via IP address when WON is acting up. Right now our only major concern is with the invisible cars on pit road at Vegas. That was a problem from day one of N3 and is not related to any of the patches, although I do not understand why it has not been fixed.

Improved mirrors, improved chatting hability in the arenas (before you select the race), connectivity has been improved; those who didn't download the fixes for the wheels (deep dish wheels that no longer look like flat hockey pucks). Just install it and telle *ME* what you think. Granted, the last beta didn't fix anything, but to so thanks but no thanks is a bit too much... Greg Cisko wrote:

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> > I never tried the beta patch. Exactly what improvements have *YOU* > seen? > > -- > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > Philster <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Are you kidding? Don't you see improvements from the original game? > > > > Archangel00 wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. > > > I kinda had that feeling too. > > > To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. > > > Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things the > way > > > they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you have to > offer. > > > > > > "Stiff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:dodx4.56597$[email hidden]... > > > > It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon. > > > > "Archangel00" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:tbdx4.67776$[email hidden]... > > > > > Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. > > > > > I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts > since > > > then > > > > > that haven't shown up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Philippe Sergerie > > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > > ICQ#: 16192023

-- Philippe Sergerie Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ#: 16192023

Thank you for stating the exact same thoughts I have on this issue in a much nicer manner than I would state them. "AKH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Well.... As the process went on, warping lessened for me and connection > issues seemed to improve. That was until the last two patches that were > released very close together. > > For me, I've seen worse racing conditions with the last patch 1106 than > 1104. Others reported the same thing. Not sure how widespread the issue > is/was. Unfortunately Papy didn't seem to want to address it. 1106 seems > closer to 'out of the box' N3 while 1104 was closer to TEN (for me). > > It would have been nice to have gotten an answer or heard something from > them regarding the issue.. that they looked into it... or it was too > late... or ~something~. They didn't respond. There was some push on the > brd for some backwards testing to determine if the people noticing a > degradation of online gameplay with 1106 would see improvement with 1104 > (or a stealthly reissued 1104 in order to not 'bias' the testers). But > nothing was heard from Papy on the issue. > > I hate to slam Papy considering all the good they have done with racing > simulations but their silence on the 1104 vs 1106 connectivity issue > reminded me of the MS CPR 'beta test'. Maybe there was a common > denominator amongst those who had issues with 1106 connectivity quality > but Papy's ignoring the posts on the subject effectively kept the issue > from being 'sussed out' or resolved. > > If 1106 is indeed the release version then I can say... for whatever > reason... 1104 was the better OVERALL patch (for me). Others have said > likewise. > > Alan > > > Greg Cisko wrote: > > > > I never tried the beta patch. Exactly what improvements have *YOU* > > seen? > > > > -- > > > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > > > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > > > Philster <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Are you kidding? Don't you see improvements from the original game? > > > > > > Archangel00 wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > I kinda had that feeling too. > > > > To bad considering all the unresolved problems that still abound. > > > > Thanks for nothing Sierra/Papy. You guys could have just left things

the > > way > > > > they were if this latest version of the patch is the best you haveto

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> > offer. > > > > > > > > "Stiff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:dodx4.56597$[email hidden]... > > > > > It's over I think. They will probably be releasing the patch soon. > > > > > "Archangel00" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:tbdx4.67776$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Anyone else having problems with Sierra's N3 beta forum. > > > > > > I show no new posts since last Saturday and have made 2-3 posts > > since > > > > then > > > > > > that haven't shown up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Philippe Sergerie > > > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > > > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > > > ICQ#: 16192023