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Re: GPL Off-Line Pre-Qualifying for League Races. How to do it ?

6 posts by 4 people · 08 Mar 2000 11:02 UTC - 13 Mar 2000 00:58 UTC

Richard G Clegg 08 Mar 2000 11:02 UTC#287910
Phillip McNelley <[email hidden]> wrote: : I've been told there is a way of doing pre-qualifying off-line. This : sounds like a good idea in our case. It is essential of course that : all such submitted times are tamper proof. If there is a way to do : this with complete integrilty I'd appriciate someone pointing the : method out to me. Hmm... UK GPL league got everyone to send in the player.ini file (I think it was that one) with all their fast laps and put people into divisions based on best lap times. [Sure, I guess someone _could_ cheat and get into a league ahead of where they're meant to be - but what good would it do? You'd be in a division where you were outclassed then.] It seemed to work OK although a few people shifted divisions after the first race. Any of the UK GPL moderators like to comment on the exact system used? -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
Phillip McNelley 08 Mar 2000 20:44 UTC#288026
Hi All, I've been looking at different ways of running an online league we do here in Australia. Of the different methods one can use, the concept of pre-qualifying a large group of drivers into various divisions for each race seems a good idea to me. It seems to me this method is most likely to ensure each group of racers are always driving with others around their own times. The trouble I have is ... I don't have the time available for a bunch of on-line pre-qualifying sessions. In our case this would required at least 4 sessions if not more, to accomadate all the drivers we have. These would normally be division-ised into at least 4 seperate races to fit everyone in. I've been told there is a way of doing pre-qualifying off-line. This sounds like a good idea in our case. It is essential of course that all such submitted times are tamper proof. If there is a way to do this with complete integrilty I'd appriciate someone pointing the method out to me. Best Regards Phillip McNelley
Don Scurlock 08 Mar 2000 20:59 UTC#287841
[email hidden] (Richard G Clegg) wrote in <8a5c0n$2qq$[email hidden]>: > [Sure, I guess someone _could_ cheat and get into a league ahead >of where they're meant to be - but what good would it do? You'd be >in a division where you were outclassed then.] The cheat would just the opposite, to get into a league that was below your skill level and cherry pick the wins. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Richard G Clegg 09 Mar 2000 15:22 UTC#287660
Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote: : [email hidden] (Richard G Clegg) wrote in : <8a5c0n$2qq$[email hidden]>: :> [Sure, I guess someone _could_ cheat and get into a league ahead :>of where they're meant to be - but what good would it do? You'd be :>in a division where you were outclassed then.] : The cheat would just the opposite, to get into a league that was below : your skill level and cherry pick the wins. Well where's the satisfaction in that? Besides which any system of qualifying or pre-qualifying is surely susceptible to people driving "too slowly". Perhaps I'm just to honest to "get it"? -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
Phillip McNelley 09 Mar 2000 17:34 UTC#287713
>The cheat would just the opposite, to get into a league that was below >your skill level and cherry pick the wins. That's one of the problems. The other is that drivers who are really too slow for an ellite group want to see how they go up against the fast guys. The off-line system that someone half discribed to me went something like ... Each driver had to save a few seconds of the replay from their session when they crossed the line and/or as their pit board was in view. This should be a tamper proof way of proving that they did get the lap time they say they did. However ... The prospect of checking through 60+ replays doesn't thrill me though :-) as you might imagine. The prospect of just recieving 60+ GPL replays in my e-mail each week doesn't thrill me either :-) Can anyone see a problem with his method ? It their an esier way of doing this ? Do the pitboards show up in replays anyway ? I'll have to check this. Cheers PM
Chris Noto 13 Mar 2000 00:58 UTC#287432
[email hidden] (Phillip McNelley) wrote: >Of the different methods one can use, the concept of pre-qualifying a large group of drivers into various divisions for each race seems a good idea to me. {snip) The trouble I have is ... I don't have the time available for a bunch of on-line pre-qualifying sessions. Phillip, the VROC-F2 Club uses the same servers that are going to be used for the "division" races to do online pre-qualifying. We've usually got drivers to come close to two full fields. We leave pre-qual for a chat group meeting where the field splitting lap time is announced, and then folks go to their assigned server for their division race. Seems to work fine.

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