Re: Nascar Legends Bugs

I bought NL just to race at Riverside only to find that Papy put the starters stand on the wrong side of the track, not a huge error but it still bugs me. Does anyone know of a way to fix this? -- don [|]-(_)-[|] seydlitz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MRBx4.32901$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know whether or not Papyrus plans on putting out a patch for NL?

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:01:48 GMT, "seydlitz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Does anyone know whether or not Papyrus plans on putting out a patch for NL? Unsure of this myself, but I've read over the last few days about an N3 patch? I assume that they're unlikely to be compatible, but is there one in conjunction to NL? I'm pretty happy with my version of NL except for a few niggly things like the cars being trapped in pit lane as you say... Having fun with it, except that it's been shelved momentarily for my new found love, SBK2000 ;) Cheers, Rod.

Does anyone know whether or not Papyrus plans on putting out a patch for NL? I've been playing the game for a little over a week (needed a break from GPL), and I noted several frustrating items that need to be fixed. I do not own N3, but I would surmise that many of these items were similar to problems present in that game prior to it's patch. Items that I've seen: 1. Can't create custom set ups. Actually, I can't create a filename for a set up, and I am stuck using the ACE,FIXED,EASY,QUALIFY filenames only. I've tried reinstalling, as well as copying another setup file and renaming it, but still no joy. Right now, I can only alter and save using the default names, and cannot make comments. Is this unique to my copy, or do others have this problem? 2.Since I wanted to drive a Mercury Cyclone, I took over the default Sean Edwards car and renamed the driver. All is well on some /most screens, but I ran into some instances where it displays "Sean Edwards" and not the correct driver name on some screens (not all) such as best lap time. 3. I started a championship season, and after race 3 at Richmond, the game lost track of my Driver's record. All of a sudden, I showed 0 starts and 0 points. Granted my poor driver wasn't doing well and had 3 DNFs in the first 3 races, but I still wanted my points. 4. Pace Car/accident bug. At the Rock, there was an accident on pit road. As a result, several of the cars were trapped on pit road, including the pace car, which pulled off on the "going green next time around". This lead to several wierd things..... 1. Cars on the track "racing" each other even though we were still under yellow. 2. Stuck on yellow flag for about 30 laps until pace car could get back past the start line in the pit. 3. Black flag penalty for passing the pace car/other cars that were stuck in the pit lane. 4. Your pit chief doing LSD on the pit wall...talk about flipping out. I was 18 laps down, and he would alternately tell me "stay to the outside, you're on the lead lap", "stay behind the X car" and the darn car was stuck in the pit lane. You would also here " green flag", followed later by other pit calls that must have been stuck in a buffer since they related to events that had occurred earlier...in some cases laps earlier. 5. The way AI cars will stop in front of you and stay stopped for a long time. 6. The way AI cars, when stopped, can pivot instantaneously 90 degrees. Are these common items that others have experienced with this game? The game is fun, especially since I remember the "real thing".... Any chance these items will get patched, or is NL going to be an orphan? Regards, Don

To create custom setup's you just alter the Ace setup and then click on the "ace" tab and rename it. Click save and viola your new setup. Al Stiff "seydlitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MRBx4.32901$[email hidden]... > Does anyone know whether or not Papyrus plans on putting out a patch forNL? > > I've been playing the game for a little over a week (needed a break from > GPL), and > I noted several frustrating items that need to be fixed. I do not ownN3,

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> but I would > surmise that many of these items were similar to problems present in that > game prior > to it's patch. > > Items that I've seen: > 1. Can't create custom set ups. Actually, I can't create a filename for a > set up, and I am > stuck using the ACE,FIXED,EASY,QUALIFY filenames only. I've tried > reinstalling, > as well as copying another setup file and renaming it, but still no

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> Right now, I can > only alter and save using the default names, and cannot make comments. > Is this unique to my copy, or do others have this problem? > > 2.Since I wanted to drive a Mercury Cyclone, I took over the default Sean > Edwards car and > renamed the driver. All is well on some /most screens, but I ran into > some instances where > it displays "Sean Edwards" and not the correct driver name on some > screens (not all) such as > best lap time. > > 3. I started a championship season, and after race 3 at Richmond, the game > lost track of my Driver's > record. All of a sudden, I showed 0 starts and 0 points. Granted my > poor driver wasn't doing well > and had 3 DNFs in the first 3 races, but I still wanted my points. > > 4. Pace Car/accident bug. > At the Rock, there was an accident on pit road. As a result, several > of the cars were trapped on pit > road, including the pace car, which pulled off on the "going green

next > time around". > This lead to several wierd things..... > 1. Cars on the track "racing" each other even though we were still > under yellow. > 2. Stuck on yellow flag for about 30 laps until pace car could getback > past the start line in the pit. > 3. Black flag penalty for passing the pace car/other cars that were > stuck in the pit lane. > 4. Your pit chief doing LSD on the pit wall...talk about flippingout. > I was 18 laps down, and he > would alternately tell me "stay to the outside, you're on thelead > lap", "stay behind the X car" > and the darn car was stuck in the pit lane. You would also here" > green flag", followed later > by other pit calls that must have been stuck in a buffer sincethey > related to events that had > occurred earlier...in some cases laps earlier. > 5. The way AI cars will stop in front of you and stay stopped for a > long time. > 6. The way AI cars, when stopped, can pivot instantaneously 90degrees.

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> > Are these common items that others have experienced with this game? > The game is fun, especially since I remember the "real thing".... > Any chance these items will get patched, or is NL going to be an orphan? > > Regards, > Don > >

All problems at the Rock *seem* to be caused by the incredible high speed of the pace car. Change the pacea line in yr Rocking.txt to PACEA 2 31800000 52000 -52000 0 65 and that should sort it out. (slows pace car to 65) -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061 > > > > 4. Pace Car/accident bug. > > At the Rock, there was an accident on pit road. As a result, several > > of the cars were trapped on pit > > road, including the pace car, which pulled off on the "going green > next > > time around". > > This lead to several wierd things..... > > 1. Cars on the track "racing" each other even though we were still > > under yellow. > > 2. Stuck on yellow flag for about 30 laps until pace car could get > back > > past the start line in the pit. > > 3. Black flag penalty for passing the pace car/other cars that were > > stuck in the pit lane. > > 4. Your pit chief doing LSD on the pit wall...talk about flipping > out. > > I was 18 laps down, and he > > would alternately tell me "stay to the outside, you're on the > lead > > lap", "stay behind the X car" > > and the darn car was stuck in the pit lane. You would also here > " > > green flag", followed later > > by other pit calls that must have been stuck in a buffer since > they > > related to events that had > > occurred earlier...in some cases laps earlier.

These all seem to be related to some type of install issue which is causing the files to be read and attempted to save to and from the CD rather than your hard drive. Weird. Did you do a full or minimum install? Eric "seydlitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MRBx4.32901$[email hidden]... > > 1. Can't create custom set ups. Actually, I can't create a filenamefor a > set up, and I am > stuck using the ACE,FIXED,EASY,QUALIFY filenames only. I'vetried > reinstalling, > as well as copying another setup file and renaming it, but stillno joy. > Right now, I can > only alter and save using the default names, and cannot makecomments. > Is this unique to my copy, or do others have this problem? > > 2.Since I wanted to drive a Mercury Cyclone, I took over thedefault Sean > Edwards car and > renamed the driver. All is well on some /most screens, but Iran into > some instances where > it displays "Sean Edwards" and not the correct driver name onsome > screens (not all) such as > best lap time. > > 3. I started a championship season, and after race 3 at Richmond,the game > lost track of my Driver's > record. All of a sudden, I showed 0 starts and 0 points.Granted my > poor driver wasn't doing well > and had 3 DNFs in the first 3 races, but I still wanted mypoints.

Sounds like ol' N2 with a minimum install before they patched it - it tried to read AND write everything to the CD path. -- Ken's Sig 3.01 "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi Go #43 and #44! volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com Eric Busch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8a71uv$p91$[email hidden]... > These all seem to be related to some type of install issue which is > causing the files to be read and attempted to save to and from the CD > rather than your hard drive. Weird. Did you do a full or minimum > install? > > Eric > > "seydlitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MRBx4.32901$[email hidden]... > > > > 1. Can't create custom set ups. Actually, I can't create a filename > for a > > set up, and I am > > stuck using the ACE,FIXED,EASY,QUALIFY filenames only. I've > tried > > reinstalling, > > as well as copying another setup file and renaming it, but still > no joy. > > Right now, I can > > only alter and save using the default names, and cannot make > comments. > > Is this unique to my copy, or do others have this problem? > > > > 2.Since I wanted to drive a Mercury Cyclone, I took over the > default Sean > > Edwards car and > > renamed the driver. All is well on some /most screens, but I > ran into > > some instances where > > it displays "Sean Edwards" and not the correct driver name on > some > > screens (not all) such as > > best lap time. > > > > 3. I started a championship season, and after race 3 at Richmond, > the game > > lost track of my Driver's > > record. All of a sudden, I showed 0 starts and 0 points. > Granted my > > poor driver wasn't doing well > > and had 3 DNFs in the first 3 races, but I still wanted my > points. > >

Exactly like the manual says...only it won't allow me to change the setup name or type in comments. Very strange indeed. I even uninstalled and reinstalled but it's still broken. Don "Stiff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:P3Cx4.57059$[email hidden]... > To create custom setup's you just alter the Ace setup and then click onthe > "ace" tab and rename it. Click save and viola your new setup. > > Al Stiff

I did a full install to the default directory both times. I've also defragged my HD and tuned my registry. You might have a point. Some install packages can cause issues. I might try reinstalling again with the read-ahead turned off. Don "Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8a71uv$p91$[email hidden]...

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> These all seem to be related to some type of install issue which is > causing the files to be read and attempted to save to and from the CD > rather than your hard drive. Weird. Did you do a full or minimum > install? > > Eric >

I'm hoping that they will do a patch, but you know how it is these days...why waste programmer time on a game that isn't a big seller. I really like NL, in fact I chose to buy it instead of N3...after all, why race with a Taurus when you can have a Superbird or Torino........ Getting used to the "no speed limit in the pit lane" took some work. Kind of sucks though when that AI car decides to pull out of the pit just as you race by in 3rd gear <g>. Don "Rod" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:01:48 GMT, "seydlitz" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Does anyone know whether or not Papyrus plans on putting out a patch forNL?

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> > Unsure of this myself, but I've read over the last few days about an > N3 patch? I assume that they're unlikely to be compatible, but is > there one in conjunction to NL? > > I'm pretty happy with my version of NL except for a few niggly things > like the cars being trapped in pit lane as you say... > > Having fun with it, except that it's been shelved momentarily for my > new found love, SBK2000 ;) > > Cheers, > Rod.

Update: I reinstalled a third time...this time after turning read-ahead off on the CD-Rom. It's working correctly now. Don

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> Exactly like the manual says...only it won't allow me to change the setup > name or type in comments. Very strange indeed. > I even uninstalled and reinstalled but it's still broken. > Don > > To create custom setup's you just alter the Ace setup and then click on > the > > "ace" tab and rename it. Click save and viola your new setup. > > Al Stiff

You need to read the book. Points 1 and 2 are easily accomplished.

Thanks for your input, but if you had read my note, you would have seen that I had read the manual. There should have been nothing to saving a set up, esp since it is pretty much the same as in the other papy games I own...however it flat wasn't working. I was merely inquiring as to whether or not others had this problem with the same title. I have since fixed it by reinstalling with the read-ahead turned off on my CD-rom drive and it is working correctly now. Why the game wasn't functioning correctly on the first two installs with read-ahead turned on beats me, but may be related to a combination of the CD-rom and particular install package used, and there are several different ones out there. "NanaKofi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You need to read the book. > Points 1 and 2 are easily accomplished.

I did a full install each time. It wasn't trying to write to the CD, its just that some of the game functions did not work correctly. The source of the problem is occurring during the install process. It seems peculiar to my machine and the way that it reacts with certain vendors' install packages. I have a US Drives 24X CD-Rom and a 5 gig Western Digital Hard drive. Back when I set the system up, my mobo Bios did not yet have the ability to read a drive larger than 2.1 gig as a single partition, so I used Western Digital's Drive program to set up/translate the FAT so that I can run the entire drive as one large partition. When installing a game, it will look like it installed correctly and will normally work fine. However, the install will be "blemished" by something that doesn't work like it should or doesn't look like it should. For example: a map graphic that has a section that has a pallette corruption, or something like the NL setup save function error. I have only had this problem on about 3 games in the last two years, so it's not real serious, but I can assure you that when I go to a new HD the western Digital program will not go back on my computer. Depending on how the setup/install pkg was written, some of the install data is lost/garbled between the read-ahead function on the CD rom and the time it gets stored on the HD......possibly due to something in the WD FAT management program. Don