SBK2000 Vs. Gp500

Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who own and race the games. -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] --------------------------------------------------- DK-Racing #15 K_Anderson ------------------------------------------------- http://www.awtech.net/

SBK is graphically prettier, but GP500 had better gameplay. GP500 also has a " cleaner " look to it. I don't know how else to describe that. But SBK is more detailed visually, though it does seem I like both, but GP500 is still a better game. I hope this made sense.....:^)) Dave Pawlikowski [email hidden] http://www.cushdrive.com/ "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02...

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> Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who > own and race the games. > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > --------------------------------------------------- > DK-Racing > #15 K_Anderson > ------------------------------------------------- > http://www.awtech.net/ > > >

i agree GP500 is superior as far as feeling like your on a sport type bike. besides 2 strokes rule. Superdave wrote in message ... >SBK is graphically prettier, but GP500 had better gameplay. GP500 also hasa

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>" cleaner " look to it. I don't know how else to describe that. But SBK is >more detailed visually, though it does seem > >I like both, but GP500 is still a better game. > >I hope this made sense.....:^)) > > >Dave Pawlikowski [email hidden] > http://www.cushdrive.com/ > >"Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02... >> Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those

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>> own and race the games. >> >> -- >> Kevin Anderson >> [email hidden] >> --------------------------------------------------- >> DK-Racing >> #15 K_Anderson >> ------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.awtech.net/ >> >> >> > >

Personaly I've always liked SBK. I find GP500 is too forgiving. But supposedly (havn't tested much yet) SBK mp code isn't the greatest. GP500 code is ok, could use work. but is better than SBK. SBK graphics\sounds I perfer. And the laguna seca model in SBK is the bomb. DjFIL Kevin Anderson wrote:

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> Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who > own and race the games. > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > --------------------------------------------------- > DK-Racing > #15 K_Anderson > ------------------------------------------------- > http://www.awtech.net/

I prefer GP500. Although it has less detailed graphics it is more realistic. Also the bikes somehow seem to big in SBK2000 compared to the tracks. Kevin Anderson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02...

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> Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who > own and race the games. > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > --------------------------------------------------- > DK-Racing > #15 K_Anderson > ------------------------------------------------- > http://www.awtech.net/ > > >

I have EA Sports SBK, which I assume is different from 2000, and I've tried the GP500 demo. GP500 has the better "feel" by far. The graphics in both are superb. I've not been able to warm up to either of them as I don't feel connected, control wise. I think the best controller setup would be joystick and foot pedals but I haven't tried it yet. Can anyone tell me... I'm using ECCI wheel and pedals, and I have a CH flightstick, and both are connected to the computer through a joyswitch. Can I use the joystick and pedals at the same time for a bike sim without doing any rewiring ? [email hidden] (Kevin Anderson) wrote in <8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02>: >Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who >own and race the games. > >-- >Kevin Anderson -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

I don't have GP500, but I do have both SBK and SBK2000. 2000 is a vast improvement over the original. The graphics are phenomenal, and the physics model is much better. With a FF joystick you get a real feel for what's happening with the bike, not just the annoying gear-shift whacks like the original. There's also real difference between the bikes - trying to keep the torque of the Ducati in check is really tough. The low-speed steering is kind of funky, but the head-waggle at least gives you some indication of when you're about to tuck the front end. The steering's also a little too slow with the default setups, I've been using Med 1 for both rake and trail and it's better. Definitely worth the upgrade - and I was pissed enough over the SBK/V3 incompatibilities to not consider it initially. Been watching Daytona 200 coverage, and why haven't I seen an ad for it yet? The first SBK bombed in the US, and is EA missing another golden opportunity to show off one of thier *good* racing games? Or did I miss an ad during a piss-break ;)? Kendt In article <8EF554D46dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote: > I have EA Sports SBK, which I assume is different from 2000, and I'vetried the > GP500 demo. GP500 has the better "feel" by far. The graphics in bothare > superb. I've not been able to warm up to either of them as I don'tfeel > connected, control wise. I think the best controller setup would bejoystick > and foot pedals but I haven't tried it yet. Can anyone tell me... I'musing > ECCI wheel and pedals, and I have a CH flightstick, and both areconnected to > the computer through a joyswitch. Can I use the joystick and pedals atthe same > time for a bike sim without doing any rewiring ? > > [email hidden] (Kevin Anderson) wrote in<8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02>: > > >Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear fromthose who

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> >own and race the games. > > > >-- > >Kevin Anderson > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. >

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I love both of them.. They both have their own strong points... I like the fact that they feel different and GP500 feels like a light GP bike... SBK2000 feels more like a Super bike with less power and heavier. I have tried the SBK2000 mp code and I think it is pretty good. GP500 didn't work for me, but I've heard it isn't bad either... Both are good in their own ways.. just get both!! :-) James Pickard Kevin Anderson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02...

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> Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who > own and race the games. > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > --------------------------------------------------- > DK-Racing > #15 K_Anderson > ------------------------------------------------- > http://www.awtech.net/ > > >

I have been playing the demos using my wheel and pedals. I think it is far better then any jostick. I could however see the joystick might be better in the chicanes. -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] --------------------------------------------------- DK-Racing #15 K_Anderson ------------------------------------------------- http://www.awtech.net/ Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8EF554D46dscurlock@news... > I have EA Sports SBK, which I assume is different from 2000, and I've tried the > GP500 demo. GP500 has the better "feel" by far. The graphics in both are > superb. I've not been able to warm up to either of them as I don't feel > connected, control wise. I think the best controller setup would be joystick > and foot pedals but I haven't tried it yet. Can anyone tell me... I'm using > ECCI wheel and pedals, and I have a CH flightstick, and both are connected to > the computer through a joyswitch. Can I use the joystick and pedals at the same > time for a bike sim without doing any rewiring ? > > > > [email hidden] (Kevin Anderson) wrote in <8ECy4.2585$Bo2.22116@news02>: > > >Whats the verdict? I have tried both demos but want to hear from those who > >own and race the games. > > > >-- > >Kevin Anderson > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.

I've tried it with the steering wheel but it just didn't feel right. The leaning of the joystick feels more immersive but only for steering, you definitely want pedals for brake and throttle. Check this out if you haven't already. http://members.home.net/starpad/ Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

OK, I'll grant you that on features you're right. I was just going on feel... In article <4Srz4.33168$[email hidden]>, "Simon Robbins" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > No multiplayer championships.Doesn't bother me - I can only get 28.8 reliably at home. > No lap records.Hadn't noticed, but I'm not fast enough to care ;)... > No practice mode.I hated the SBK practice mode anyways, I'd rather fire up a full race and run the practice session. > No telemetry recording.Good point, but the setup options aren't good enough to use it anyways (another bad point of SBK2K). > No left/middle/right independent tyre temperatures/wear.There's no indicators, but are you sure it's not there? I could swear at a few races it felt like I was burning up one side of the tire more than the other. Could just have been the particular turns, though. What do you think of GP500? Does it add some of these features, and is it worth another purchase? Thanks, Kendt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

In article <8ahd5s$ple$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] () wrote: > Definitely worth the upgrade - and I was pissed enough over the SBK/V3 > incompatibilities to not consider it initially. Whats the problem with SBK & V3 cards? I have a V3 card and was considering getting SBK...... 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

The original SBK would only support 640X480 with the V3. They did release a patch but that only let you go up to 800x600. The new SBK 2000 works fine with the V3. -- Jeff Murchison JR Screamers Racing League www.speakeasy.org/~jmurch/ <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8am17e$kj$[email hidden]... > In article <8ahd5s$ple$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] () > wrote: > > > Definitely worth the upgrade - and I was pissed enough over the SBK/V3 > > incompatibilities to not consider it initially. > > Whats the problem with SBK & V3 cards? I have a V3 card and was > considering getting SBK...... > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

[email hidden] wrote in message <8ahd5s$ple$[email hidden]>... >I don't have GP500, but I do have both SBK and SBK2000. 2000 is a vast >improvement over the original. No multiplayer championships. No lap records. No practice mode. No telemetry recording. No left/middle/right independent tyre temperatures/wear. Sorry, but apart from the improved graphics I don't think it's an improvement at all. The handling feels more authentic, but more forgiving as well. I feel happier having paid full price for the original than I did for this. Si.

[email hidden] wrote in message <8am6dl$7a2$[email hidden]>... >OK, I'll grant you that on features you're right. I was just going on >feel... On balance, I'd agree with you. While generally excellent, I felt that the original SBK game exhibited some peculiar behaviour. Pushing a bike hard at full realism on the new game feels great and some of the bike behaviour when things get out of shape is a vast improvement over it's predecessor. >> No multiplayer championships. >Doesn't bother me - I can only get 28.8 reliably at home. I played lan games with my friends quite a lot. We were hoping for a better championship implementation. Instead of just the single race it would have been nice to allow full weekend in multiplayer championship. (What I'd really like is an interface where you never leave the pit lane during the race day. i.e. you can adjust your settings, etc. while remaining in the 3D track environment, seeing the other riders out there while you pit. How about dynamic weather changes? That'd be amazing.) >> No telemetry recording. >Good point, but the setup options aren't good enough to use it anyways >(another bad point of SBK2K). The best use I found for it was adjustments to gearing. The curves gave a really good idea of where performance gains could be made. What I really don't like about this as a missing feature is it's an indication of where EA wants to take the franchise, i.e. away from the "simulation" genre and into the "racer" console-type arena. You could tell just by playing the original game that the love of bikes drove the development team to produce the game. That feel just isn't there in the new one. It stinks of having EA's marketing guys crawling all over it. >>> No left/middle/right independent tyre temperatures/wear. >There's no indicators, but are you sure it's not there? I could swear >at a few races it felt like I was burning up one side of the tire more >than the other. Could just have been the particular turns, though. You might be right. I don't know. >What do you think of GP500? Does it add some of these features, and is >it worth another purchase? I don't have it. I tried the demo and thought it was good though the crash behaviour seemed "floaty" and unauthentic, but it's never been released here so without ordering it from the UK (paying shipping, taxes, duty, etc.) I can't try it. I'm a SBK devotee anyway! Si.

> No multiplayer championships. I'm not staying online for 26 races (13 rounds) stright any way. > No lap records. Small point. Nothing I could really care about. > No practice mode. Kinda a pain in the ass. I've gotten over it and perfer practicing with others on track (good way to see what your doing wrong if you have the chance to follow an AI) > No telemetry recording. Yeah... dunno why they removed this. Maybe cause the simplified the setups. Dunno. That's another thing I wish they didn't do. I was just fine with it the other way. > No left/middle/right independent tyre temperatures/wear. I've felt it. But it's not like if you were on a real bike you'd have tyre ware\temp indicators. > Sorry, but apart from the improved graphics I don't think it's an > improvement at all. The handling feels more authentic, but more forgiving as > well. I feel happier having paid full price for the original than I did for > this. Handeling is a huge thing, and a good change. Way more realistic. I'm happy with both, and I like the improvements in sbk2000 over sbk. Even with the downfalls on top. DjFIL "SB2K World Championship is coming soon" Preview the site at http://members.home.com/djfil/

DjFIL <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > No multiplayer championships. > > I'm not staying online for 26 races (13 rounds) stright any way. I wouldn't either. I play it a lot on a LAN though. (It's the only way me and my biking buddies stay sane in the snowy winter!) The previous version rarely used to survive for more than a few races before a network connection problem though. Could've been much improved with a save-able multiplayer championship or the ability to recover to the start of the last race in the event of a comms failure. Instead they just ditch the whole feature. > > No lap records. > Small point. Nothing I could really care about. Getting together and playing on the LAN made this quite a big point between my friends. I think the ability to merge connected PC's lap records would've added to the rivalry also. > > No left/middle/right independent tyre temperatures/wear. > > I've felt it. But it's not like if you were on a real bike you'd havetyre > ware\temp indicators. True. It's not the indicators I miss though. I thought they'd done away with the different temps altogether, though people have commented that they've felt the difference. Si.