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Reasons I'm deleting F1 2000

11 posts by 9 people · 18 Mar 2000 20:46 UTC - 21 Mar 2000 01:29 UTC

J. P. Hovercraft 18 Mar 2000 20:46 UTC#286836
1) System specs. Anyone tried a -race- yet? 3 fps... 2) Bloody annoying stepped engine sounds. 3) Ho-hum graphics. I prefer MGPRS or even F1RS. (Bloddy annoying stepped engine sounds) 4) Physics. GPL may have spoiled me forever. Nothing feels as "honest" as GPL. If I spin in GPL, I've earned it. Same for making it through a corner. I worked for it. Canned spins and crashes abound in F1 2000, it seems. 5) Tracks. Monza is -not- that narrow. Indianapolis has a steeper bank. Come on guys, this is supposed to be a sim! Anyway, nice try EA. It's close, but no prize. If it gets hacked a la SCGT, it may end up being a fun diversion, but GPL is still providing me with the only -racing- I'm getting so far. Come on Papy, -REV- that GPL engine. I'll take three of them. Back to Snetterton... J. P.
Chris Bloom 18 Mar 2000 21:16 UTC#286746
In article <[email hidden]>, "J. P. Hovercraft" <[email hidden]> wrote: >1) System specs. Anyone tried a -race- yet? 3 fps... >2) Bloody annoying stepped engine sounds. The sounds at the start are very arcade like. Generally the sound is pretty weak. Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
(snip) but GPL is still providing me with the only -racing- I'm getting so far. (unsnip) Hear, hear!!!! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- J. P. Hovercraft <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Jan Hovius 19 Mar 2000#286459
It's even worse: I've enabled the formation lap and guess what: Already 4 cars out before the start on this lap in Melbourne. This is ridiculous! Well, back to the "Ring" I guess! David Haigh <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (22 lines)> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:17:09 -0800, Chris Bloom > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In article <[email hidden]>, "J. P. Hovercraft" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>1) System specs. Anyone tried a -race- yet? 3 fps... > >>2) Bloody annoying stepped engine sounds. > > > >The sounds at the start are very arcade like. Generally the > >sound is pretty weak. > > Not to mention the AI! Half the field REGULARLY crashed out after the > first chicane in Monza!! These guys make the Psygnosis F1 AI look > smart. They're also completely unpredictable. Not as in the will he > block me or won't he but rather in the "what the hell is he doing on > the brakes in the middle of the main straight"?. > > They've obviously "Americanised" F1 - and upped the crashing quota > slightly!! > > Dave >
Morgan VW? 19 Mar 2000 00:50 UTC#286677
I was enthusiastic about it this morning after spending all night downloading, but after spending parts of the day at Monza, Indy, and Melbourne I can safely say I'm getting rather tired of it. I still think it's about the best contemporary F1 sim so far (except, maybe, GP2, which I've never been able to get my hands on), but that's not really saying much. For me it always comes back to three titles: GPL, N3, and NL, not necessarily in that order. No other game comes close to the realism of these Papy titles (GPL, in particular, but hopefully N4 will be on my list in the not too distant future). -- ----------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten mailto:[email hidden] http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ ----------------------------------- J. P. Hovercraft <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > 1) System specs. Anyone tried a -race- yet? 3 fps... > 2) Bloody annoying stepped engine sounds. > 3) Ho-hum graphics. I prefer MGPRS or even F1RS. (Bloddy annoying > stepped engine sounds) > 4) Physics. GPL may have spoiled me forever. Nothing feels as "honest" > as GPL. If I spin in GPL, I've earned it. Same for making it through a > corner. I worked for it. Canned spins and crashes abound in F1 2000, it > seems. > 5) Tracks. Monza is -not- that narrow. Indianapolis has a steeper bank. > Come on guys, this is supposed to be a sim! > > Anyway, nice try EA. It's close, but no prize. If it gets hacked a la > SCGT, it may end up being a fun diversion, but GPL is still providing me > with the only -racing- I'm getting so far. Come on Papy, -REV- that GPL > engine. I'll take three of them. Back to Snetterton... > > > > J. P. > >
Bob Thurman 19 Mar 2000 08:11 UTC#286628
EA racing sim A well lnown oxymoron buzard "J. P. Hovercraft" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> 1) System specs. Anyone tried a -race- yet? 3 fps... > 2) Bloody annoying stepped engine sounds. > 3) Ho-hum graphics. I prefer MGPRS or even F1RS. (Bloddy annoying > stepped engine sounds) > 4) Physics. GPL may have spoiled me forever. Nothing feels as "honest" > as GPL. If I spin in GPL, I've earned it. Same for making it through a > corner. I worked for it. Canned spins and crashes abound in F1 2000, it > seems. > 5) Tracks. Monza is -not- that narrow. Indianapolis has a steeper bank. > Come on guys, this is supposed to be a sim! > > Anyway, nice try EA. It's close, but no prize. If it gets hacked a la > SCGT, it may end up being a fun diversion, but GPL is still providing me > with the only -racing- I'm getting so far. Come on Papy, -REV- that GPL > engine. I'll take three of them. Back to Snetterton... > > > > J. P. >
Chris Bloom 19 Mar 2000 09:30 UTC#286437
>They've obviously "Americanised" F1 - and upped the crashingquota >slightly!! > >Dave >The most common cause of retirement for the AI seems to be "Rear Wing". Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
David Haigh 19 Mar 2000 19:46 UTC#286625
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:17:09 -0800, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, "J. P. Hovercraft" ><[email hidden]> wrote: >>1) System specs. Anyone tried a -race- yet? 3 fps... >>2) Bloody annoying stepped engine sounds. > >The sounds at the start are very arcade like. Generally the >sound is pretty weak.
Not to mention the AI! Half the field REGULARLY crashed out after the first chicane in Monza!! These guys make the Psygnosis F1 AI look smart. They're also completely unpredictable. Not as in the will he block me or won't he but rather in the "what the hell is he doing on the brakes in the middle of the main straight"?. They've obviously "Americanised" F1 - and upped the crashing quota slightly!! Dave
Test 20 Mar 2000 01:04 UTC#286196
Jan Hovius wrote: > > It's even worse: I've enabled the formation lap and guess what: Already 4 > cars out before the start on this lap in Melbourne. This is ridiculous! > > Well, back to the "Ring" I guess! compare with my main gripe with GPL AI is that (if as normal :-) I'm trailing in nearly 1 lap down I suddenly get a lotus all over my rear wheels 'cos GPL AI refuses to slow down while on a cooldown lap while returning to the pits :-) > > They've obviously "Americanised" F1 - and upped the crashing quota > > slightly!! Quote from soem NASCAR official on a documentary 2 or 3 years back "the American public want violence so we have to give them crashes - the challenges is to ensure no-one gets hurt"
Bart-W. van Lith 21 Mar 2000 01:29 UTC#285942
Even Brambilla wasn't THAT bad! Hehehehe ;) Bart Jan Hovius wrote: > > It's even worse: I've enabled the formation lap and guess what: Already 4 > cars out before the start on this lap in Melbourne. This is ridiculous!

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