Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for
the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy:
GPL
N3
NL
where can I find them?
thanks,
Mike
Sarcastic request for warez copies of Papyrus sims
In response to the wave of F1 2000 piracy, a poster asked for warez copies of GPL, N3 and NASCAR Legends. Others pointed out that free demos existed and argued over whether try-before-you-buy piracy was justified. The discussion included library and book analogies.
community/meta
Automated summary.
Acceptable to who?
Acceptable to who?
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> > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > GPL > N3 > NL > > where can I find them? > > thanks, > MikeROTFL.
Those titles all have easily accessible demos. Try them, you'll like them.
Marc.
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> > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > GPL > N3 > NL > > where can I find them? > > thanks, > MikeSpare me. Warez is fine for testing out a game before buying. That's all. Grab
the demos. If you like them let Papyrus know by buying the full versions.
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MikeG <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for
> the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy:
> GPL
> N3
> NL
>
> where can I find them?
>
> thanks,
> Mike
>
Of course it's exceptable. You have to try before you buy. If you don't
believe in this maybe I can sell you some swampland in Florida.
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> Acceptable to who? > > MikeG <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for > > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > > GPL > > N3 > > NL > > > > where can I find them? > > > > thanks, > > MikeMikeG wrote:
>
> Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for
> the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy:
> GPL
> N3
> NL
Didn't you read the NG charter? It is only acceptable for non-Papy
titles.
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:51:25 GMT, Intimidator <[email hidden]> wrote:
I think he understood him perfectly.
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>On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:28:01 +0100, "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> >>"MikeG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for >>> the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: >>> GPL >>> N3 >>> NL >>> >>> where can I find them? >>> >> >>You can download the GPL demo at http://www.papy.com/ >> > >I think you misunderstood his post. He was looking for full, warez >versions of games, not demos.On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:25:24 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:
My IQ may have been lowered a little.. :)
Another thing:
Hey, don't say you didn't hear it here first .... Click here: http://www.ebworld.com .
In the Search box, enter PORSCHE
Choose the **PC** Version of Need for Speed 5: Porsche Unleashed .
Order it for $29.95 plus shipping. In a little over a week, you will
be very surprised by how *nice* and *fun* this game is. I would
tell you how I know this, but .. err .. you understand..
Mine is ON-ORDER!
Don't say I didn't tell you.. ;)
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>"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in >> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:51:25 GMT, Intimidator <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >I think you misunderstood his post. He was looking for full, warez >> >versions of games, not demos. >> >> >> I think he understood him perfectly. > >LOL! > >Was the average r.a.s. IQ cut down in half this week???(snip)
> This post isn't designed to spark a debate on the rights & wrongs ofwarez -
> simply to put across a view that RAS is not an appropriate place to findit.
>
> Tony
>(unsnip)
As it's illegal I would've thought that there wasn't an "appropriate place"
anywhere.
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Canberra, Australia.
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Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ya i got my GPL from nr1999 then a friend gave me all the nedded files.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:53:27 GMT, "Marc Collins"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>ROTFL.
>
>Those titles all have easily accessible demos. Try them, you'll like them.
>
>Marc.
>
http://gamesdomain.com/demos/
is a good place to start for demos.
rich
http://come.to/rs-shifter
F1 2000 will have a demo too, so why is it ok to try the warez of one and
not the others?
David G fisher
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> ROTFL.
>
> Those titles all have easily accessible demos. Try them, you'll likethem.
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> > Marc. > > "MikeG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for > > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > > GPL > > N3 > > NL > > > > where can I find them? > > > > thanks, > > Mike > >Hahahaha... good one. ;-)
Jan.
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> MikeG wrote: > > > > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for > > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > > GPL > > N3 > > NL > > Didn't you read the NG charter? It is only acceptable for non-Papy > titles.
>F1 2000 will have a demo too, so why is it ok to try the warez of one and
>not the others?
Will have. Some people are trying it a bit early--before the demo is
available.
-Tim
Good luck finding a GPL warez copy. There's an iso of the beta which is
very rare and hard to find, which won't help you out very much. (More proof
of teh game's unpopularity, especially considering its lack of anti-piracy
measuers - none) After trying it out, I promptly ordered teh gaem.. I mean
c'mon, its only $25 bucks these days....
scooter
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> Hahahaha... good one. ;-) > > Jan. > ---- > Pierre Robitaille <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > MikeG wrote: > > > > > > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am lookingQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > > > GPL > > > N3 > > > NL > > > > Didn't you read the NG charter? It is only acceptable for non-Papy > > titles. > >Hard to find? Just have to look in the right place. What's this beta stuff?
c wrote:
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> Good luck finding a GPL warez copy. There's an iso of the beta which is > very rare and hard to find, which won't help you out very much. (More proof > of teh game's unpopularity, especially considering its lack of anti-piracy > measuers - none) After trying it out, I promptly ordered teh gaem.. I mean > c'mon, its only $25 bucks these days.... > > scooter > Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3cVA4.1351$[email hidden]... > > Hahahaha... good one. ;-) > > > > Jan. > > ---- > > Pierre Robitaille <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > MikeG wrote: > > > > > > > > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking > for > > > > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > > > > GPL > > > > N3 > > > > NL > > > > > > Didn't you read the NG charter? It is only acceptable for non-Papy > > > titles. > > > >"David G Fisher" wrote in message
> F1 2000 will have a demo too, so why is it ok to try the warez of one and
> not the others?
>Agreed
On a number of occasions the developers of our beloved sims have been
praised for taking part in this newsgroup. Other times their lack of
involvement has disappointed - that is not to say the newsgroup is not being
monitored - hopefully some will be using this newsgroup for some
constructive feedback on development of the products we want.
Posting comments on warez versions is dubious - it can be very valuable in
forming a view as to which products to buy - I am as impatient as the next
RAS member to know if a new sim is going to be great or not. Though it
doesn't send out a great message out to the developers.
Posting links to warez sites goes a step way too far IMHO. This is the first
time I have seen this on RAS.
This is probably an extremely na�ve view - but for me the credibility of the
newsgroup just gets wiped out with a solitary post if it includes links to
sites to rip off full versions of the sims which form the basis of our
discussions.
Ok so we know it goes on - but for it to become openly discussed in an
enthusiast newsgroup is bang out of order.
This post isn't designed to spark a debate on the rights & wrongs of warez -
simply to put across a view that RAS is not an appropriate place to find it.
Tony
"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Posting comments on warez versions is dubious - it can be very valuable in
> forming a view as to which products to buy - I am as impatient as the next
> RAS member to know if a new sim is going to be great or not. Though it
> doesn't send out a great message out to the developers.
Personally, this has been done for years by a good portion of the r.a.s.
veterans. It increased a little two years ago, but it remained normal. We
mostly approved this approach because of how helpful it can be as a
community to related to them racing simulator and how to rate them,
especially the final versions. The motto of many people here since the crop
of bad titles we had this past few year is "Better try it/not like it than
buy it/not like it". When most of us like the software we will buy it.
Most of us have GPL. Most of us have GP500, SCGT, Nascar3, RC2000, etc...
> Posting links to warez sites goes a step way too far IMHO. This is thefirst
> time I have seen this on RAS.
I completely agree. The r.a.s. veterans that I call (we know who we are)
should be all concerned about our newsgroup. It is clearly not the way we
want it to be. We have had often in the past serious conversation over
features of a beta version of a software, but this went way too far.
Personally I tried F1 2000, showed my view of this title, and that's all, it
went in the garbage after. Or it would had went if I bought it also.
Let's not continue with all this bollocks we have here.
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-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
oh, go away.
David G Fisher wrote:
>
> F1 2000 will have a demo too, so why is it ok to try the warez of one and
> not the others?
>
Maybe because this demo won't be out until *after* the release of the
final product, unlike GPL. People wanna know if they're really
interested in plunking down the hard earned cash next weekend. =-)
--
Chuck Kandler #70
K&S Racing
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195
Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at:
http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun!
They'll call you names
And spit in your face,
But legends never die. --Gene Simmons
"MikeG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You can download the GPL demo at http://www.papy.com/
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> > Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for > the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: > GPL > N3 > NL > > where can I find them? >That's great...as long as you don't ever want to see another GPL-quality
title produced in the future. I do, and would be willing to pay double the
current price for it, but not because 1/2 the copies in use out there are
stolen by losers who can't see beyond the end of their own nose.
Are any of us going to produce a quality title ourselves? I didn't think
so. So fork over your cash for titles that are quality and that you use or
get lost from this "community."
Marc.
"Tony StewartNo20" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ya i got my GPL from nr1999 then a friend gave me all the nedded files.
>That's great...as long as you don't ever want to see another GPL-quality
>title produced in the future. I do, and would be willing to pay double the
>current price for it, but not because 1/2 the copies in use out there are
>stolen by losers who can't see beyond the end of their own nose.
So...do you buy every book that you read? Tell me you never borrow one
from a friend or, worse, check one out at the library. I'm sure you don't do
that because I'm quite sure that you aren't a "loser who can't see beyond the
end of his own nose."
For the record, most of the books I borrow or check out I never
actually read. That means that the author and publisher aren't making money
off of me, yet I am getting the benefit of their copywrited work. Does that
make me a "loser."
-Tim
"Tony StewartNo20" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Ya i got my GPL from nr1999 then a friend gave me all the nedded files.
Thanks for showing to the world that my signature file is true.
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-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Seems to me that you're using a rather poor analogy there. Think about it:
what's the difference between an author who, upon signing his or her
contract with the publisher, authorizes that publisher's selling of the book
to libraries, and your comparison of that process w/the warez biz?
Well, thick one, I'll tell you: "C - H - O - I- C - E." In one instance,
the producer of some artifact explicitly givces permission for an additional
menas of distribution for his or her work; in another, that decision is
illicitly taken by some spotty-faced clown at the software factory.
--DK
"The Enigmatic One" <[email hidden]> rather unenigmatically bleated in message
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>
> So...do you buy every book that you read? Tell me you never borrow one
> from a friend or, worse, check one out at the library. I'm sure you don'tdo
> that because I'm quite sure that you aren't a "loser who can't see beyondthe
> end of his own nose."
>
> For the record, most of the books I borrow or check out I never
> actually read. That means that the author and publisher aren't makingmoney
> off of me, yet I am getting the benefit of their copywrited work. Doesthat
> make me a "loser."
>
>
> -Tim
>
oh, go away.
"Tony StewartNo20" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ya i got my GPL from nr1999 then a friend gave me all the nedded files.
Libraries operate on different principles, including how roylaties are
covered. same with ....not comparable to ripping-off an illegal copy of
electronic data.
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Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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>
> >That's great...as long as you don't ever want to see another GPL-quality
> >title produced in the future. I do, and would be willing to pay double
the
> >current price for it, but not because 1/2 the copies in use out there are
> >stolen by losers who can't see beyond the end of their own nose.
>
> So...do you buy every book that you read? Tell me you never borrow one
> from a friend or, worse, check one out at the library. I'm sure you don't
do
> that because I'm quite sure that you aren't a "loser who can't see beyond
the
> end of his own nose."
>
> For the record, most of the books I borrow or check out I never
> actually read. That means that the author and publisher aren't making
money
> off of me, yet I am getting the benefit of their copywrited work. Does
that
> make me a "loser."
>
>
> -Tim
>
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:28:01 +0100, "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
I think you misunderstood his post. He was looking for full, warez
versions of games, not demos.
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> >"MikeG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for >> the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: >> GPL >> N3 >> NL >> >> where can I find them? >> > >You can download the GPL demo at http://www.papy.com/ >"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:51:25 GMT, Intimidator <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >I think you misunderstood his post. He was looking for full, warez
> >versions of games, not demos.
>
>
> I think he understood him perfectly.
LOL!
Was the average r.a.s. IQ cut down in half this week???
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-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Please, borrow or even rent F1 2000 from a friend or software rental store
before you buy it. Or better, get the demo when it comes out. Or, d/l the
warez and base your opinion on that and either buy the full version or
delete it.
Do not d/l a warez copy of GPL (or any other title) and keep using it. That
is slitting our collective throats. Since our only common interest here is
racing and driving sims, why would we want to tolerate behaviour that is
counter-productive to that interest?
Marc.
"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> That's great...as long as you don't ever want to see another GPL-quality
> title produced in the future. I do, and would be willing to pay doublethe
> current price for it, but not because 1/2 the copies in use out there are
> stolen by losers who can't see beyond the end of their own nose.
>
> Are any of us going to produce a quality title ourselves? I didn't think
> so. So fork over your cash for titles that are quality and that you useor
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> get lost from this "community." > > Marc. > > > "Tony StewartNo20" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ya i got my GPL from nr1999 then a friend gave me all the nedded files. > >On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:36:02 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Yes, I gathered that he got the gist of the original request. It's
just that when someone asks for the warez version of this, or the
crack/keygen for that, most people give the ohhhh so tired response
of, "you can get it from Papyrus!" or "It's right here at
www.symantec.com." That being the case, I just wanted to add my own
thoughtless, tired response to someone else's thoughtless, tired
response.
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>On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:25:24 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in >>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:51:25 GMT, Intimidator <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >I think you misunderstood his post. He was looking for full, warez >>> >versions of games, not demos. >>> >>> >>> I think he understood him perfectly. >> >>LOL! >> >>Was the average r.a.s. IQ cut down in half this week??? > >My IQ may have been lowered a little.. :)
"Intimidator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:36:02 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:25:24 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]>wrote:
> >
> >>"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:51:25 GMT, Intimidator <[email hidden]>wrote:
I was tired maybe, but not thoughtlezz.
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> >>> >I think you misunderstood his post. He was looking for full, warez > >>> >versions of games, not demos. > >>> > >>> > >>> I think he understood him perfectly. > >> > >>LOL! > >> > >>Was the average r.a.s. IQ cut down in half this week??? > > > >My IQ may have been lowered a little.. :) > > > Yes, I gathered that he got the gist of the original request. It's > just that when someone asks for the warez version of this, or the > crack/keygen for that, most people give the ohhhh so tired response > of, "you can get it from Papyrus!" or "It's right here at > www.symantec.com." That being the case, I just wanted to add my own > thoughtless, tired response to someone else's thoughtless, tired > response.I once cut the Materials Information tags off my pillows.
--DK
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> (snip)
>
> As it's illegal I would've thought that there wasn't an "appropriateplace"
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> anywhere. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xa%A4.558$[email hidden]... > >Your going to jail, I just reported you to the pillow manufacturers
authorities..........
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> I once cut the Materials Information tags off my pillows. > > --DK > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > (snip) > > > > As it's illegal I would've thought that there wasn't an "appropriate > place" > > anywhere. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:xa%A4.558$[email hidden]... > > > > > >Stiff one wrote:
Can anyone tell me what those black helicopters are doing circling this
place? ;-)
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K&S Racing
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195
Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at:
http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun!
They'll call you names
And spit in your face,
But legends never die. --Gene Simmons
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> > Your going to jail, I just reported you to the pillow manufacturers > authorities.......... > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8besl2$sbp$[email hidden]... > > I once cut the Materials Information tags off my pillows. > > > > --DKQuoted text (9 lines)
> > Your going to jail, I just reported you to the pillow manufacturers > authorities.......... > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8besl2$sbp$[email hidden]... > > I once cut the Materials Information tags off my pillows. > > > > --DKTry this one...
http://www.spa.org :)
GM
Larry ([email hidden]) wrote:
: You ARE kidding, right?
: -Larry
: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:04:09 +0000, MikeG <[email hidden]> wrote:
: >
: >Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for
: >the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy:
: >GPL
: >N3
: >NL
: >
: >where can I find them?
: >
: >thanks,
: >Mike
How bout you do the legal thing and download the official demos of those three.
I think you can still get them all at www.papy.com but if not theres various
sites which have them available too.
Chris
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>>Since it seems to be acceptable to d/l warez games now, I am looking for >>the warez versions of the folowing games so i can try before i buy: >>GPL >>N3 >>NL >> >>where can I find them? >> >>thanks, >>MikeYou ARE kidding, right?
-Larry
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