Re: Where the hell is everyone getting F12000?

Well go to your local warez site and get it. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com Moe Lefaive <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1xMA4.447$[email hidden]... > I can find no links or jack squat about this game, yet tons of talk about > it here??? > >

I can find no links or jack squat about this game, yet tons of talk about it here???

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> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:26:23 -0600, "Ray M" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >alt.binaries.games > > > Kinda hard since there is no such newsgroup, if there is @home doesn't > get it because i get over 50,000 newgroups of every kind, but there's > no alt.binaries.games

There most certainly is an alt.binaries.games. There are 40 additional newsgroups that start with alt.binaries.games, too. There are a *lot* more than 50,000 newsgroups..... ~daxe

alt.binaries.games "Moe Lefaive" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1xMA4.447$[email hidden]... > I can find no links or jack squat about this game, yet tons of talkabout > it here??? > >

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>Man, i just can't believe you posted a followup just to say that, what >a lame, prudish politically correct gimp you are, if you don't like >warez or the links being posted don't visit them, simple as that. I wonder how many people whining about warez versions of F12000 have a hard drive full of mp3's? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Gristina [email hidden] "I am tougher than a $2 steak" - Norman Smiley

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> Hiya > > Listen, you don't want to know where to get it as once you go down the > dark side, it will consume your life. Warez is no good, buy it and try > it or if they have rental shops over where you live, try it that way. > > Dave >

Somehow I have to agree. In the good old days of C64s, I had literally fileboxes full of copied discs. I think every 15 year old kid did at the time, and I really wonder who actually bought the games. I imagine I bought a few, because this was before the days of easy net access and a 300baud modem was a speedster, so we had to form some sort of supply chain. But in the end, I had many copies. I was raised "well", and yet I had no moral qualms about this. Perhaps it was my age, or perhaps it was because it was a faceless crime - I didn't have to sneak the discs out from under the nose of the programmer. I'm hoping the statute of limitations on these past misdemeanours has long since run out... I repent! Right into university it was still possible to make rationalizations for software piracy ("I'm a starving student; let the large companies pay Lotus full bucks for their over-priced 1-2-4 software"). It didn't immediately dawn on me that perhaps I was part of the reason why Lotus 1-2-3 cost 400 bucks. Even after my first job change, there was that moment of uncertainty when you ask yourself "do I really *have* to uninstall the program that I was running under the previous company's license". The piracy mindset is insidious and difficult to shake. In a way, shaking the attitude requires a concerted effort. I had to wipe my harddrive and vow to rebuild it with my own software. Buying bargains helps, like finding Corel 7 for 80 bucks instead of Corel 9 for 300 etc., resisting the urge to upgrade office suites every year etc. Demos (official, from the company) helped a lot with my game buying choices. And I am sure that if I, in a moment of weakness, downloaded a warez version of a game, I might not follow through on the purchase, even if I liked it. Perhaps a lot of the people in this group will, but I suspect a lot will not (ask yourself why people want the intro movie to "evaluate" the software). If I end up buying a dud of a game, I forget about it, consider it a little bit of social economics by prolonging the employment of some overworked coder who most likely had to submit to the whims of the marketing department :-) This is just one person's opionion, of course, but my own stand on the issue now is to wait for the official demo, or do without. Most purchases are based on the same level of "sampling" as a demo allows, if that much. You read the back cover of a book before you buy, you hear a song on the radio and decide to buy the CD, you taste a wine before deciding to accept the bottle. I approach this not as an unblemished example of an upstanding software user, but rather as a repentant sinner. By the way, if anyone knows who programmed Electronic Arts' "Drol" back in the 80's, let me know so I can slip him a few bucks - man I liked that game. I've already vowed to go buy the updated version of "Lode Runner" just to make amends. Conscience... funny thing. Stephen

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:26:23 -0600, "Ray M" <[email hidden]> wrote: >alt.binaries.games Kinda hard since there is no such newsgroup, if there is @home doesn't get it because i get over 50,000 newgroups of every kind, but there's no alt.binaries.games Anyway, to answer the original poster, you can get the complete myth final version here in the "0 day gamez" section: http://zillionwarez.cjb.net/

"ck1" <[email hidden]> wrote > Kinda hard since there is no such newsgroup, if there is @home doesn't > get it because i get over 50,000 newgroups of every kind, but there's > no alt.binaries.games @home has one of the worst known newsgroup servers for binary files. Sorry for you. There's plenty of available pay-for-access newsgroup servers. It really does exist, be sure of that <g>. @home just has fun with censorship. > Anyway, to answer the original poster, you can get the complete myth > final version here in the "0 day gamez" section: > http://your.very.dumb.com/ Geeze, will people learn someday? Didn't you simply read previous message in this newsgroup during the last two days or so? Where do those idiots pop-up? Never had them before. Get back under your bridge. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Maybe they just don't condone warez? -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JqfC4.7089$[email hidden]... > "ck1" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Kinda hard since there is no such newsgroup, if there is @home doesn't > > get it because i get over 50,000 newgroups of every kind, but there's > > no alt.binaries.games > > @home has one of the worst known newsgroup servers for binary files. Sorry > for you. There's plenty of available pay-for-access newsgroup servers. It > really does exist, be sure of that <g>. @home just has fun with censorship. > > > > > Anyway, to answer the original poster, you can get the complete myth > > final version here in the "0 day gamez" section: > > http://your.very.dumb.com/ > > Geeze, will people learn someday? Didn't you simply read previous message in > this newsgroup during the last two days or so? Where do those idiots > pop-up? Never had them before. Get back under your bridge. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:36:25 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Anyway, to answer the original poster, you can get the complete myth >> final version here in the "0 day gamez" section: >> http://your.very.dumb.com/ Ohh, tough talk "yves" - "your.very.dumb" oooh, i'm soooo upset!. What's your problem with my posting a link? take a look around, a couple hundred people at least have downloaded that warez version and are talking about it here, there's nothing wrong with trying it out, most of us who have downloaded the warez version will buy it anyway. Man, i just can't believe you posted a followup just to say that, what a lame, prudish politically correct gimp you are, if you don't like warez or the links being posted don't visit them, simple as that. Anyway, here's the link again, just for the record. http://zillionwarez.cjb.net/ ;-)

Hiya Listen, you don't want to know where to get it as once you go down the dark side, it will consume your life. Warez is no good, buy it and try it or if they have rental shops over where you live, try it that way. Dave On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:37:49 GMT, "Moe Lefaive" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I can find no links or jack squat about this game, yet tons of talk about >it here??? >

David Karr wrote: > > "We" there has "most" as its object. Can you figure out the rest? If people are out to get one guy, logic or common sense just flies out the window. Pretending to be really dumb seems to be acceptable for them, if the other guy looks bad as a result. "Hey, what's propriety 3D?" Stuff like that... -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:07:58 GMT, Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote: >Cheez-wiz, Frank -- there's that "we" again. Has this ng become >moderated now, and you're it? Pinch me, I must be having a nightmare.... > >BB > I, too, would like Frank to exclude me from his "we" comments.

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>ymenard wrote: >> >> If the guy simply can't check the messages of the previous day to get a >hint, then they shouldn't be given the URL. Why has everything to be >like I >said earlier given on a golden plateau?. Just tell them to use DEJA.com and >research for it. There has been mention of this URL at least a dozen times. > >Most of the people here don't mind with the whole situation. We just demand >to keep a little privacy.

-- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

"ck1" <[email hidden]> wrote > Ohh, tough talk "yves" - "your.very.dumb" oooh, i'm soooo upset!. > What's your problem with my posting a link? If the guy simply can't check the messages of the previous day to get a hint, then they shouldn't be given the URL. Why has everything to be like I said earlier given on a golden plateau?. Just tell them to use DEJA.com and research for it. There has been mention of this URL at least a dozen times. Most of the people here don't mind with the whole situation. We just demand to keep a little privacy. You could had emailed him the URL instead. Promoting warez websites is not really the best way to professionaly create a newsgroup where we can co-work with game developpers. http://www.deja.com/usenet/ (stupid Deja restructuration hehe) . -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Cheez-wiz, Frank -- there's that "we" again. Has this ng become moderated now, and you're it? Pinch me, I must be having a nightmare.... BB ymenard wrote: > > If the guy simply can't check the messages of the previous day to get ahint, then they shouldn't be given the URL. Why has everything to be like I said earlier given on a golden plateau?. Just tell them to use DEJA.com and research for it. There has been mention of this URL at least a dozen times. Most of the people here don't mind with the whole situation. We just demand to keep a little privacy.

"We" there has "most" as its object. Can you figure out the rest? --DK "Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Cheez-wiz, Frank -- there's that "we" again. Has this ng become > moderated now, and you're it? Pinch me, I must be having a nightmare.... > > BB > > ymenard wrote: > > > > If the guy simply can't check the messages of the previous day to get a > hint, then they shouldn't be given the URL. Why has everything to be > like I > said earlier given on a golden plateau?. Just tell them to use DEJA.com

and > research for it. There has been mention of this URL at least a dozentimes. > > Most of the people here don't mind with the whole situation. We justdemand > to keep a little privacy.

David Karr wrote: > > "We" there has "most" as its object. Can you figure out the rest? No...I'm still working on the "golden plateau"... BB

A very commendable attitude. Having programmed a few things in my time and been continuously ripped off by friends and associates for free versions, I thought it would be wise to give up on the whole programming thing and become a musician. This is now proving to be a dumb-ass idea too, when people like Oasis and Steps dominate the charts and hardworking, original musicians are left at the sidelines. Why don't I start a covers band and start remixing Donna Summers songs? I'm sure there would be more money in it. Or alternatively I could upload all of my games to the internet and charge people small fees to buy them. Same fucking thing. Why bother when you can find a mug who'll do it for you and save you a whole �30? It's not really the fault of the people downloading the games, it's the people uploading them. If you found �20 on the floor you'd pick it up, without thinking that it could be somebody's housekeeping money and they would starve without it. Well, that's enough ranting. Chris -- -------------------------------------------------- http://www.the.saints.btinternet.co.uk Stephen Ferguson wrote in message <8bcl31$4tpvu$[email hidden]>... | |<[email hidden]> wrote in message |news:[email hidden]... |> Hiya |> |> Listen, you don't want to know where to get it as once you go down the |> dark side, it will consume your life. Warez is no good, buy it and try |> it or if they have rental shops over where you live, try it that way. |> |> Dave |> | |Somehow I have to agree. In the good old days of C64s, I had literally |fileboxes full of copied discs. I think every 15 year old kid did at the |time, and I really wonder who actually bought the games. I imagine I bought |a few, because this was before the days of easy net access and a 300baud |modem was a speedster, so we had to form some sort of supply chain. But in |the end, I had many copies. I was raised "well", and yet I had no moral |qualms about this. Perhaps it was my age, or perhaps it was because it was |a faceless crime - I didn't have to sneak the discs out from under the nose |of the programmer. I'm hoping the statute of limitations on these past |misdemeanours has long since run out... I repent! | |Right into university it was still possible to make rationalizations for |software piracy ("I'm a starving student; let the large companies pay Lotus |full bucks for their over-priced 1-2-4 software"). It didn't immediately |dawn on me that perhaps I was part of the reason why Lotus 1-2-3 cost 400 |bucks. Even after my first job change, there was that moment of uncertainty |when you ask yourself "do I really *have* to uninstall the program that I |was running under the previous company's license". The piracy mindset is |insidious and difficult to shake. | |In a way, shaking the attitude requires a concerted effort. I had to wipe |my harddrive and vow to rebuild it with my own software. Buying bargains |helps, like finding Corel 7 for 80 bucks instead of Corel 9 for 300 etc., |resisting the urge to upgrade office suites every year etc. Demos |(official, from the company) helped a lot with my game buying choices. And |I am sure that if I, in a moment of weakness, downloaded a warez version of |a game, I might not follow through on the purchase, even if I liked it. |Perhaps a lot of the people in this group will, but I suspect a lot will not |(ask yourself why people want the intro movie to "evaluate" the software). |If I end up buying a dud of a game, I forget about it, consider it a little |bit of social economics by prolonging the employment of some overworked |coder who most likely had to submit to the whims of the marketing department |:-) | |This is just one person's opionion, of course, but my own stand on the issue |now is to wait for the official demo, or do without. Most purchases are |based on the same level of "sampling" as a demo allows, if that much. You |read the back cover of a book before you buy, you hear a song on the radio |and decide to buy the CD, you taste a wine before deciding to accept the |bottle. I approach this not as an unblemished example of an upstanding |software user, but rather as a repentant sinner. By the way, if anyone |knows who programmed Electronic Arts' "Drol" back in the 80's, let me know |so I can slip him a few bucks - man I liked that game. I've already vowed |to go buy the updated version of "Lode Runner" just to make amends. |Conscience... funny thing. | |Stephen | | | | |

Slight difference, it is not illegal to find money If someone left their car running with the keys inside, would you take it? If your neighbors house was unlocked, would you walk in and take their computer? If you answer yes to any of these, I can see why you have the attitude you have Chris <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8bh5rv$kok$[email hidden]... > A very commendable attitude. Having programmed a few things in my timeand > been continuously ripped off by friends and associates for free versions,I

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> thought it would be wise to give up on the whole programming thing and > become a musician. This is now proving to be a dumb-ass idea too, when > people like Oasis and Steps dominate the charts and hardworking, original > musicians are left at the sidelines. Why don't I start a covers band and > start remixing Donna Summers songs? I'm sure there would be more money in > it. Or alternatively I could upload all of my games to the internet and > charge people small fees to buy them. Same fucking thing. > > Why bother when you can find a mug who'll do it for you and save you a

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> �30? > > It's not really the fault of the people downloading the games, it's the > people uploading them. If you found �20 on the floor you'd pick it up, > without thinking that it could be somebody's housekeeping money and they > would starve without it. > > Well, that's enough ranting. > > Chris > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > http://www.the.saints.btinternet.co.uk > > Stephen Ferguson wrote in message <8bcl31$4tpvu$[email hidden]>... > | > |<[email hidden]> wrote in message > |news:[email hidden]... > |> Hiya > |> > |> Listen, you don't want to know where to get it as once you go down the > |> dark side, it will consume your life. Warez is no good, buy it and try > |> it or if they have rental shops over where you live, try it that way. > |> > |> Dave > |> > | > |Somehow I have to agree. In the good old days of C64s, I had literally > |fileboxes full of copied discs. I think every 15 year old kid did at the > |time, and I really wonder who actually bought the games. I imagine I > bought > |a few, because this was before the days of easy net access and a 300baud > |modem was a speedster, so we had to form some sort of supply chain. But

in > |the end, I had many copies. I was raised "well", and yet I had no moral > |qualms about this. Perhaps it was my age, or perhaps it was because itwas > |a faceless crime - I didn't have to sneak the discs out from under thenose > |of the programmer. I'm hoping the statute of limitations on these past > |misdemeanours has long since run out... I repent! > | > |Right into university it was still possible to make rationalizations for > |software piracy ("I'm a starving student; let the large companies payLotus

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> |full bucks for their over-priced 1-2-4 software"). It didn't immediately > |dawn on me that perhaps I was part of the reason why Lotus 1-2-3 cost 400 > |bucks. Even after my first job change, there was that moment of > uncertainty > |when you ask yourself "do I really *have* to uninstall the program that I > |was running under the previous company's license". The piracy mindset is > |insidious and difficult to shake. > | > |In a way, shaking the attitude requires a concerted effort. I had to

wipe > |my harddrive and vow to rebuild it with my own software. Buying bargains > |helps, like finding Corel 7 for 80 bucks instead of Corel 9 for 300 etc., > |resisting the urge to upgrade office suites every year etc. Demos > |(official, from the company) helped a lot with my game buying choices.And > |I am sure that if I, in a moment of weakness, downloaded a warez versionof > |a game, I might not follow through on the purchase, even if I liked it. > |Perhaps a lot of the people in this group will, but I suspect a lot will > not > |(ask yourself why people want the intro movie to "evaluate" thesoftware). > |If I end up buying a dud of a game, I forget about it, consider it alittle

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> |bit of social economics by prolonging the employment of some overworked > |coder who most likely had to submit to the whims of the marketing > department > |:-) > | > |This is just one person's opionion, of course, but my own stand on the > issue > |now is to wait for the official demo, or do without. Most purchases are > |based on the same level of "sampling" as a demo allows, if that much.

You > |read the back cover of a book before you buy, you hear a song on theradio > |and decide to buy the CD, you taste a wine before deciding to accept the > |bottle. I approach this not as an unblemished example of an upstanding > |software user, but rather as a repentant sinner. By the way, if anyone > |knows who programmed Electronic Arts' "Drol" back in the 80's, let meknow > |so I can slip him a few bucks - man I liked that game. I've alreadyvowed

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> |to go buy the updated version of "Lode Runner" just to make amends. > |Conscience... funny thing. > | > |Stephen > | > | > | > | > | > >