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Simming with a notebook computer

3 posts by 2 people · 19 Mar 2000 - 21 Mar 2000

Or perhaps "simmering". Occasionally I ask around about the possibility of playing modern sims on a notebook computer. I made the switch to a notebook computer 3 years ago and would never go back to a desktop, but occasionally I am green with envy at the games that can run on a desktop versus a notebook. We all make our choices in life, I guess, and for me the space savings and convenience of a single notebook are worth giving up the latest, greatest games, but it doesn't mean I can't dream a little. Anyway, perhaps some might be interested to hear about my latest experience with notebooks. It would seem that the gap is closing somewhat, or at least enough to make racings sims and notebook computers no longer mutually exclusive. I have been demo'ing a Dell Inspiron 5000, their latest all in one notebook offering. The current model offers a PIII up to 650 MHz, or Celerons in 450 and 500 MHz. The PIIIs are the Coppermine chip, and the Celerons have a 100MHz bus, so they are not as primitive as some notebook detractors may think. I tried a PIII-500, 64Gb ram, DVD, and 14.1" XGA TFT screen. All this in a package about 1.6" thick and under 7 lbs. For control I hooked an Interact UltraRacer (handheld wheel) through a JC Designs PC-Card game port. This little handheld wheel was in keeping with the portability theme, and I have nothing but praise for it the more I get used to using it. When I hooked it up to a friend's desktop, I was quickly within a second of my best GPL laptimes, and the convenience of such a small controller was quite nice. While it's not a Hyper Simulator, the suspension of disbelief is slightly greater than with a joystick, with the separation of steering from throttle and brake. The computer and controller easily fit in my thin briefcase. The graphics card in the i5000 is the 8Mb Rage Mobility -P, a meagre step forward from the old Rage chips from about 1.5 years ago. Nothing to get excited about, but notebook 3D is still in its infancy. One must also remember that the notebook environment puts really tight constraints on packaging, power use, and heat. The average GeForce draws more power than a whole notebook computer, and the heat sinks on the high-end graphics cards are thicker than most notebooks. So, faced with this graphics bottleneck, how did things run? Surprisingly well, actually. The first games I tried were from the archives, so to speak. I gathered up GP2, with a full download of new tracks and carsets. On the PIII-500 it ran really well in SVGA (sky off), as most of you already know. The graphics, although lacking the final level of polish that 3D hardware offers, are still good looking with the updated tracks. I played MGPRS2 and GP2 back-to-back and didn't feel I was missing so much stepping back down to the unaccelerated GP2 graphics, and in fact some graphical things are better done on GP2 (in my opinion) like the car models. I also gladly put up with the older GP2 for its better driving "feel" than the numb and frustrating MGPRS2. Other older software titles that ran really well on the Dell notebook were ICR2 and Nascar 2. Full details, full fields, and 30fps. No surprises, of course - one should hope a 3 or 4 year old game would run well on a PIII-500. Again, they're not as beautiful as the latest offerings, but they look surprisingly good (and more than a little cool) on the flat panel. A friend's copy of N3 was a no-go in D3D due to the known issues with the ATI chipset and the program. I would stick with N2 for the better frame rate, as I didn't find much in N3 that would make it worth the purchase if I already had N2. SCGT installed and ran fine, as did Viper racing. The graphics on the 8Mb Rage won't make anyone with a desktop jealous, but they are certainly decent, and the frame rates seemed solid. Need for Speed III ran fine, but NFS4 was a no-go for some reason. Rally Championship ran fine (I was surprised) at 640x480, although there is certainly something missing when compared to a desktop with a good card. The ATI chip in the notebook does a very good job of "stretching" the 640x480 or 800x600 up to full screen resolution of 1024x768 (remember, the flat panel physically has 1024x768 pixels), adding anti-aliasing in the process to smooth any jaggedness. The TFT panel itself is fixed at a 60Hz refresh rate. On a static image, like a Word screen, there is no noticeable effect of this "low" refresh rate as the LCD pixels don't flicker. However, the moving images create a slight ghosting effect. It's not a headache causer, but it is noticeable. On the other hand, the screen in the Dell is big, bright and very crisp. On battery, I managed to get about 2 to 3 hours of playing, which seems quite good with the drain of the 3D chip running full blast. The sound is meagre from the built in speakers, but a set of headphones would solve that. Compaq also builds notebooks with the ATI chip, and the JBL speakers in those models are amazing for their size. Now, what's exciting about a computer with a less-than bleeding-edge processor and a historical graphics subsystem? ATI has recently introduced their ATI Mobility 128 chip into the Apple Powerbooks, and once production ramps up, it will show up in Intel notebooks. It is pin compatible with the older Rage, so the upgrade path is painless for the manufacturer (not, I emphasize, for the consumer - an upgrade after-sale will not be possible). A 16Mb version will be available. The chip is the same as the Rage 128 (Fury) chip from the last 6 months or so, with its clock speed turned down slightly. A recent comparison showed that the performance was quite competitive, stepping all over the old Rage, S3's latest mobile chip (which was supposed to be the next great thing for notebooks) and running with VooDoo 2s and TNT2s. It won't get you 100fps in Quake 3, but it will have more than enough power for current sims and perhaps even newer ones on the horizon. It also has all the other nice features of the ATI chips, like flawless DVD play and excellent 32bit performance. Finally, some in this group has reported success with the OpenGL patch of GPL and the Rage Fury (using some mirror tweaking etc.), so perhaps finally my dream of taking the 'Ring on the train with me is not far off. By the way, the OpenGL GPL was an absolute no-go on the current Rage Mobility chip. So, while the notebook will still not drag the hardcore gamer away from the desktop, the notebooks can even now be considered a viable platform for having a lot of fun with sim racing. If you have, like me, made the choice to forego a desktop for home and office use, then it is now becoming possible to have your cake and eat it too. When it comes time to finally replace my old notebook this summer or fall, I will be looking to machines with the newer ATI chip. Oh, and the next time you drag all your desktop gear off to a LAN party, think of how nice it would be to carry one 7lb package... Comments are welcome. Stephen --
I have a Toshiba Pentium 166 with 16 megs of memory and I always have Network Q Rally Championship with me at all times for emergency Sim fix. It is actually quite good. Doug....lifelong diehard Boston Bruins fan......long suffering Boston Red Sox fan....once proud but now "What the hell is going on?"Boston Celtics fan.......first they were going and now there staying New England Patriots fan !!! ALWAYS PROUD AMERICAN !!!
Bruins9900 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have a Toshiba Pentium 166 with 16 megs of memory and I always haveNetwork Q > Rally Championship with me at all times for emergency Sim fix. It isactually > quite good. > Doug Network Q also lived a long and busy life on the harddrive of my old P133 notebook. For nostalgic purposes I reloaded it. Rally Championship spoils you, I'm afraid, as I was bouncing off invisible walls like some physics experiment gone horribly wrong. Stephen By the way, do yourself a favour and visit www.crucial.com and see if they have some memory for your old Tosh. An extra 16 or 32Mb will set you back almost nothing and do worlds of good for it. My P133 is still very usable for office/internet tasks, mostly due to the extra ram I stuffed into it.

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