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Re: When was RAS born?

23 posts by 10 people · 19 Mar 2000 - 26 Mar 2000 04:29 UTC

When rec.autos.simulators was created

A newer reader asked when the newsgroup began. ymenard pointed to the archived 1993 newsgroup proposal, and veterans recalled the IndyCar era. The thread turned into personal sniping between Barton Brown and ymenard over ymenard's old joke claim to have created the group.

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Andre Warringa 19 Mar 2000 23:51 UTC#286378
Just wondering, I started reading RAS as soon as GPL came out, I never knew about it before. Just read a post in which someone told about the talk on RAS when the expension pack for Indycar game out. That's a long way back... Andre
rrevved 20 Mar 2000#285989
On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:19:51 +0000, Richard Walker <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)>On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:50:03 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in >message <[email hidden]> : > >>free.rrevved > >No! I say keep him behind bars! > ><ggg> > >Cheers, >Richard
hehe! -- * rrev at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net
Well, Ive been involved in it since GP2 came out (when was that...1995??) but I think it was a few years old even then. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just wondering, I started reading RAS as soon as GPL came out, I never > knew about it before. Just read a post in which someone told about the > talk on RAS when the expension pack for Indycar game out. > That's a long way back... > > Andre
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:50:03 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message <[email hidden]> : >free.rrevved No! I say keep him behind bars! <ggg> Cheers, Richard
ymenard 20 Mar 2000 00:15 UTC#286384
"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > Just wondering, I started reading RAS as soon as GPL came out, I never > knew about it before. Just read a post in which someone told about the > talk on RAS when the expension pack for Indycar game out. > That's a long way back... <sarcasm> I created r.a.s. </sarcasm> Oh that made people smile eh? Ok seriously... You can find an archive of all newsgroup propoasls at this FTP address : ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/ Here is part of the proposal : ======================== From [email hidden] Tue Oct 12 15:07:11 1993 From: [email hidden] (Afzal Ballim) Subject: RFD: rec.autos.simulators Date: 12 Oct 1993 14:25:40 -0400 Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland Sender: [email hidden] Approved: [email hidden] Message-ID: <[email hidden]> This is a Request For Discussion on the creation of a newsgroup for computer simulations of automobiles. Group Name --------- rec.autos.simulators Status ------ Unmoderated Rationale --------- There is an increasing amount of software on the market that provides simulation of automobiles (both in competitive and non-competitive circumstances). This software is often multi-platform and so no platform-dependent newsgroup would provide an appropriate discussion forum for it. In addition, rec.autos is an inappropriate forum as that group is not intended for discussion of software. It is intended that rec.autos.simulators would provide a forum where people could discuss such automotive simulation software irrespective of the platforms on which it runs, and that abstract technicalities of such software could also be discussed. Email I have received, plus discussions in various newsgroups (comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc, rec.autos.sport) and on the F1 Grand Prix mailing list, has made it clear that such a group would be welcomed by many usenetters. Charter ------- This newsgroup will be used for discussions of computer simulations of automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on hich said simulations are supported. This will include simulations which have a competitive component (racing simulations) and those which do not. Topics will include (but are not restricted to): o Global characteristics of particular simulations. o Platform-dependent characteristics of such simulations (as a convention, it is suggested that such discussions list the platforms in the subject header, e.g., Subject: [ibm-pc,sun] Blog's Yugo simulator o Design and implementation issues of such simulations. o General discussion of automobile simulations. Voting ------ If all goes according to plan, voting will take place 21 days from the posting date of this RFD. This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newsgroups news.groups rec.autos rec.autos.driving rec.autos.sport comp.sys.amiga.misc comp.sys.atari.st comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc comp.sys.mac.misc Follow-ups directed to news.groups -- Afzal Ballim | Internet: [email hidden] ISSCO, University of Geneva | X400: S=afzal;OU=divsun;O=unige; 54 route des Acacias | PRMD=switch;ADMD=arcom;C=ch CH-1227 GENEVA (Switzerland) | UUCP: mcvax!cui!divsun.unige.ch!afzal ============================ -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Andre Warringa 20 Mar 2000 00:30 UTC#286188
Since 1993... I missed a lot of posts then! Thanks for the info Ymenard. Andre On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:15:31 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (109 lines)>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Just wondering, I started reading RAS as soon as GPL came out, I never >> knew about it before. Just read a post in which someone told about the >> talk on RAS when the expension pack for Indycar game out. >> That's a long way back... > ><sarcasm> >I created r.a.s. ></sarcasm> > >Oh that made people smile eh? Ok seriously... > >You can find an archive of all newsgroup propoasls at this FTP address : >ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/ Here is part of the >proposal : > > > > >======================== >From [email hidden] Tue Oct 12 15:07:11 1993 >From: [email hidden] (Afzal Ballim) >Subject: RFD: rec.autos.simulators >Date: 12 Oct 1993 14:25:40 -0400 >Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland >Sender: [email hidden] >Approved: [email hidden] >Message-ID: <[email hidden]> > >This is a Request For Discussion on the creation of a newsgroup for computer >simulations of automobiles. > > >Group Name >--------- >rec.autos.simulators > > >Status >------ >Unmoderated > > >Rationale >--------- >There is an increasing amount of software on the market that >provides simulation of automobiles (both in competitive and >non-competitive circumstances). This software is often >multi-platform and so no platform-dependent newsgroup would >provide an appropriate discussion forum for it. In addition, >rec.autos is an inappropriate forum as that group is not intended for >discussion of software. > >It is intended that rec.autos.simulators would provide a forum >where >people could discuss such automotive simulation software >irrespective of the platforms on which it runs, and that abstract >technicalities of such software could also be discussed. > >Email I have received, plus discussions in various newsgroups >(comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc, rec.autos.sport) and on the F1 Grand Prix >mailing list, has made it clear that such a group would be welcomed by many >usenetters. > > >Charter >------- >This newsgroup will be used for discussions of computer simulations of >automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on hich said simulations >are supported. This will include simulations which have a competitive >component (racing simulations) and those which do not. Topics will include >(but are not restricted to): > >o Global characteristics of particular simulations. > >o Platform-dependent characteristics of such simulations (as a >convention, it is suggested that such discussions list the >platforms in the subject header, e.g., > >Subject: [ibm-pc,sun] Blog's Yugo simulator > >o Design and implementation issues of such simulations. > >o General discussion of automobile simulations. > > >Voting >------ >If all goes according to plan, voting will take place 21 days from the >posting date of this RFD. > >This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups: >news.announce.newsgroups >news.groups >rec.autos >rec.autos.driving >rec.autos.sport >comp.sys.amiga.misc >comp.sys.atari.st >comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc >comp.sys.mac.misc > >Follow-ups directed to news.groups >-- >Afzal Ballim | Internet: [email hidden] >ISSCO, University of Geneva | X400: S=afzal;OU=divsun;O=unige; >54 route des Acacias | PRMD=switch;ADMD=arcom;C=ch >CH-1227 GENEVA (Switzerland) | UUCP: mcvax!cui!divsun.unige.ch!afzal >============================
ymenard 20 Mar 2000 03:53 UTC#286221
"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote > http://consult.cern.ch/service/news/1998/ > http://www.innotts.co.uk/news/free.html > free.rrevved -- rrevved's very own cynical newsgroup. Darn.. the only free.* newsgroup I have is free.sex <homer voice> Hmmm... free sex </homer voice> -- ;) -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Doug Schneider 20 Mar 2000 07:53 UTC#286310
ymenard wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Just wondering, I started reading RAS as soon as GPL came out, I never > > knew about it before. Just read a post in which someone told about the > > talk on RAS when the expension pack for Indycar game out. > > That's a long way back... > > <sarcasm> > I created r.a.s. > </sarcasm> > > Oh that made people smile eh? Ok seriously... >
<snip> Hmmm, I'd always wondered if it was you. Now, the pieces start to fall into place ;o) Doug
ymenard 20 Mar 2000#523550
I quite feel ***y pathetic thinking that I actually expected people to believe me. I mean mmmm.. Frank knock knock? Ahh.... ***age. I feel like an old fart now 8) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Barton Brown 20 Mar 2000 13:12 UTC#286252
ymenard wrote: > > <sarcasm> > I created r.a.s. > </sarcasm> > Oh that made people smile eh? Ok seriously... It didn't make people smile a few years ago when you made that same claim WITHOUT the <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags... Don't forget, Frankie -- there are people still here who've been here as long -- and LONGER -- than you; people whose memories aren't quite as ..."selective," shall we say? Hope you STILL enjoy "Indy" BB
Eric Busch 20 Mar 2000 14:58 UTC#286274
What makes me smile is remembering that for a while you actually expected people to believe that... Eric "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:D4eB4.49776$[email hidden]... > > <sarcasm> > I created r.a.s. > </sarcasm> > > Oh that made people smile eh? Ok seriously...
ymenard 20 Mar 2000 22:15 UTC#286133
"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > It didn't make people smile a few years ago when you made that same > claim WITHOUT the <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags... I know :( > Don't forget, Frankie -- there are people still here who've been here as > long -- and LONGER -- than you; people whose memories aren't quite as > ..."selective," shall we say? I know :( > Hope you STILL enjoy "Indy" For GPL, it's pretty fun! ;) <opens can of worms> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
ymenard 20 Mar 2000 22:17 UTC#286134
"Eric Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote > What makes me smile is remembering that for a while you actually > expected people to believe that... I quite feel bloody pathetic thinking that I actually expected people to believe me. I mean mmmm.. Frank knock knock? Ahh.... teenage. I feel like an old fart now 8) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Barton Brown 21 Mar 2000 02:05 UTC#285953
Thank you, Mr. Busch! Bart Brown Eric Busch wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> > What makes me smile is remembering that for a while you actually > expected people to believe that... > > Eric > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:D4eB4.49776$[email hidden]... > > > > <sarcasm> > > I created r.a.s. > > </sarcasm> > > > > Oh that made people smile eh? Ok seriously...
Barton Brown 21 Mar 2000 02:38 UTC#285974
ymenard wrote: > > I quite feel bloody pathetic thinking that I actually expected people to > believe me. I mean mmmm.. Frank knock knock? > > Ahh.... teenage. I feel like an old fart now 8) But Frankie, you act exactly the same NOW...even worse, in some respects. And what's with this British affectation lately -- "bloody" this and "sod" that? The one thing that you HAVE improved slightly in the last five years is your English, but it still ain't THAT good. Speaking of which, you really oughta run the text on your website through a spell check program -- only takes a minute, and makes you look somewhat less of a dweeb. Somewhat. BB
ymenard 21 Mar 2000 03:00 UTC#285978
"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > But Frankie, you act exactly the same NOW...even worse, in some > respects. If so, then kill-file me. Im sorry but it's useless to talk with you on the basics of having a decent conversation about racing simulator issues. You seems to be on an anti-ymenard crusade for no reason since you came back more actively to this newsgroup. You probably missed the 3-4years between the bad and the current events here. Of course, how do you personally help the community? > And what's with this British affectation lately -- "bloody" > this and "sod" that? It shouldn't be of anybody's business of how I connotate my sentences with stylistic words. I could use none/nadda/niet, but I have personally grown up in a family who has some roots to England, and such words I speak in real-life. I always "ise" my words as you may have seen, which made for some quite good discussions from time-to-time on the N3.discussion newsgroup ;) > The one thing that you HAVE improved slightly in > the last five years is your English, but it still ain't THAT good. > Speaking of which, you really oughta run the text on your website Website? Oh you mean WeRace.net? Someday when people have time we will rewrite the page, but it's somehow on hold considering the LAN races, the raceserver.net growth and the potential NOTS (Nascar Online Tournament Series) in the N3 community. Finally, I do hope you take my signature file seriously. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
David Karr 21 Mar 2000 03:19 UTC#286035
Agreed. Bartie, I rooted for you during your Ferrari barge-board duel with John W., but you've obviously eaten something very bad for your tummy lately. You make me want to give David G. a hug; and that's inexcuseable. Goodbye. --DK "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GBBB4.90382$[email hidden]... > "Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > > But Frankie, you act exactly the same NOW...even worse, in some > > respects. > > If so, then kill-file me. Im sorry but it's useless to talk with you onthe > basics of having a decent conversation about racing simulator issues. You > seems to be on an anti-ymenard crusade for no reason since you came back > more actively to this newsgroup. You probably missed the 3-4years between > the bad and the current events here. Of course, how do you personallyhelp
Quoted text (12 lines)> the community? > > > > > And what's with this British affectation lately -- "bloody" > > this and "sod" that? > > It shouldn't be of anybody's business of how I connotate my sentences with > stylistic words. I could use none/nadda/niet, but I have personally grown > up in a family who has some roots to England, and such words I speak in > real-life. I always "ise" my words as you may have seen, which made for > some quite good discussions from time-to-time on the N3.discussion
newsgroup
Quoted text (13 lines)> ;) > > > > > The one thing that you HAVE improved slightly in > > the last five years is your English, but it still ain't THAT good. > > Speaking of which, you really oughta run the text on your website > > > Website? Oh you mean WeRace.net? Someday when people have time we will > rewrite the page, but it's somehow on hold considering the LAN races, the > raceserver.net growth and the potential NOTS (Nascar Online Tournament > Series) in the N3 community. Finally, I do hope you take my signature
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Quoted text (9 lines)> seriously. > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > >
Goy Larsen 24 Mar 2000 14:54 UTC#284603
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > Well, Ive been involved in it since GP2 came out (when was that...1995??) > but I think it was a few years old even then. But not as old as you Bruce, come to think of it, few things are ...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Goy Larsen 25 Mar 2000 01:58 UTC#284319
Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > HAAAA! > That's the pot calling the kettle black, Uncle! :-) Hey, just glad to see you back Bruce, was getting worried there, you know, we hear all these stories about old people falling down and breaking their hips and such, and not being found until weeks later........:-) Where have you been lately ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--
Bruce Kennewell 25 Mar 2000 12:58 UTC#284289
HAAAA! That's the pot calling the kettle black, Uncle! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > Well, Ive been involved in it since GP2 came out (when was that...1995??) > > but I think it was a few years old even then. > > But not as old as you Bruce, come to think of it, few things are ...:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Bruce Kennewell 26 Mar 2000 04:29 UTC#284180
LOL!! I've been typing away but it looks as if something odd has been/still is going on with my ISP news server. Most peculiar......but then, things often fall out of place down here; we *are* upside-down, after all :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > HAAAA! > > That's the pot calling the kettle black, Uncle! :-) > > Hey, just glad to see you back Bruce, was getting worried there, you > know, we hear all these stories about old people falling down and > breaking their hips and such, and not being found until weeks > later........:-) > > Where have you been lately ? > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > http://www.teammirage.com > > "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting > are the only true sports...all others are games." > --Ernest Hemingway--

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