Re: Snetterton AI: What's wrong?

Hi Tim, Snetterton was released without AI for it. I read a post from Ed that AI will not be done for it due to complications(?) so consider it a VROC special like the ovals. Maybe someone else will come out with an AI for it. Jason. Tim Vanhee wrote: > Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes > <snip>Does anyone have this too? -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Well it says the AI is not the best (@ GPLEA). I think it was intended more for online racing. But I'm sure someone will have an AI fix soon. Al Stiff "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7QSB4.9984$[email hidden]... > Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes > after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. I > guess they are all having a laugh at Mr. Bean and Basil Fawlty. > Does anyone have this too? > >

"Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote > Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes > after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. Well it's really hard to build AI with the new Papyrus game engine. The current tools for that are limited, just look at the converted tracks for GPL from the Nascar Racing series. Personally I tried to work on some AI for some tracks, and have yet to achieve any sense of realism for them. Think Surtees x 1000 worse ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. I guess they are all having a laugh at Mr. Bean and Basil Fawlty. Does anyone have this too?

Well, Mr. Noonan seems to have coped quite well with both Brands and the Osterreichring so it can certainly be done. There is going to be a "not quite completed" feel about Snetterton if the AI are not set up properly. ymenard wrote:

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> "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes > > after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. > > Well it's really hard to build AI with the new Papyrus game engine. The > current tools for that are limited, just look at the converted tracks for > GPL from the Nascar Racing series. > > Personally I tried to work on some AI for some tracks, and have yet to > achieve any sense of realism for them. Think Surtees x 1000 worse ;-D > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Good news. Thank you, Matthew. "Matthew B.Knutsen" wrote:

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> We are working on AI, they will be released soon hopefully! > :o) > > Matt > > ymenard skrev i meldingen ... > >"Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their > brakes > >> after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. > > > >Well it's really hard to build AI with the new Papyrus game engine. The > >current tools for that are limited, just look at the converted tracks for > >GPL from the Nascar Racing series. > > > >Personally I tried to work on some AI for some tracks, and have yet to > >achieve any sense of realism for them. Think Surtees x 1000 worse ;-D > > > > > > > >-- > >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > >-- May the Downforce be with you... > >-- http://www.WeRace.net > >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > >

You, Edwin, are a prince among men! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Edwin Solheim <edwins@[SPAM-GUARD]online.no> wrote in message news:KJ_B4.20646$[email hidden]... > Jason Monds wrote > > > Snetterton was released without AI for it. I read a post from Ed that AI > will > > not be done for it due to complications(?) so consider it a VROC special > like > > the ovals. > > > Hmmmm.... did I say that??? ?? > > Then how come I'm working my arse off on the AI-patch for Snetterton then? > :) > > AI's aswell as a few other fixes for Snetterton should be avalible pretty > soon. > > Ed Solheim > The GPLEA > > >

Hi Edwin, Oops, my mistake then. Reading, rather scanning, 200+ messages can make your brain think wierd things ;-) It's great to hear your working on the AI. Jason. Edwin Solheim wrote:

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> Jason Monds wrote > > > Snetterton was released without AI for it. I read a post from Ed that AI > will > > not be done for it due to complications(?) so consider it a VROC special > like > > the ovals. > > Hmmmm.... did I say that??? ?? > > Then how come I'm working my arse off on the AI-patch for Snetterton then? > :) > > AI's aswell as a few other fixes for Snetterton should be avalible pretty > soon. > > Ed Solheim > The GPLEA

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

We are working on AI, they will be released soon hopefully! :o) Matt ymenard skrev i meldingen ... >"Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam theirbrakes

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>> after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. > >Well it's really hard to build AI with the new Papyrus game engine. The >current tools for that are limited, just look at the converted tracks for >GPL from the Nascar Racing series. > >Personally I tried to work on some AI for some tracks, and have yet to >achieve any sense of realism for them. Think Surtees x 1000 worse ;-D > > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.WeRace.net >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

Jason Monds wrote > Snetterton was released without AI for it. I read a post from Ed that AIwill > not be done for it due to complications(?) so consider it a VROC speciallike > the ovals. Hmmmm.... did I say that??? ?? Then how come I'm working my arse off on the AI-patch for Snetterton then? :) AI's aswell as a few other fixes for Snetterton should be avalible pretty soon. Ed Solheim The GPLEA

The was talking about the racing groove not being done due to technical difficulties, but they're working on the AI I believe... Hats off, programming the AI seems quite a difficult task to me! Andre On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:51:28 -0700, Jason Monds <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi Tim, > >Snetterton was released without AI for it. I read a post from Ed that AI will >not be done for it due to complications(?) so consider it a VROC special like >the ovals. > >Maybe someone else will come out with an AI for it. > >Jason. > >Tim Vanhee wrote: > >> Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes >> <snip>Does anyone have this too? > >-- >Jason Monds >http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) >http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project >(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying) > >

Well, Mr. Noonan seems to have coped quite well with both Brands and the Osterreichring so it can certainly be done. There is going to be a "not quite completed" feel about Snetterton if the AI are not set up properly.

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> > Is it me or is the Snetterton AI very slow, they seem to slam their brakes > > after the start and almost stand still in the first couple of corners. > Well it's really hard to build AI with the new Papyrus game engine. The > current tools for that are limited, just look at the converted tracks for > GPL from the Nascar Racing series. > Personally I tried to work on some AI for some tracks, and have yet to > achieve any sense of realism for them. Think Surtees x 1000 worse ;-D > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

edwins@[SPAM-GUARD]online.no (Edwin Solheim) wrote in <KJ_B4.20646$[email hidden]>:

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>Then how come I'm working my arse off on the AI-patch for Snetterton >then? >:) > >AI's as well as a few other fixes for Snetterton should be avalible >>pretty soon. > >Ed Solheim >The GPLEA

Wow, it just keeps getting better. You gotta love these guys. Say Ed, is there anything that WE can do for YOU ? -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

>Personally I tried to work on some AI for some tracks, and have yet to >achieve any sense of realism for them. Think Surtees x 1000 worse ;-D One word: DAMN! :) I'd crash just from watching my mirrors for the AI! Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrashes.cjb.net

Leaky_Valve wrote: > Well, Mr. Noonan seems to have coped quite well with both Brands and the > Osterreichring so it can certainly be done. The AI at Brands Hatch are pretty bad, at least in terms of overtaking. I've only tried to race them twice, and both times a car had mechanical problems and proceeded to crawl around the track. Unfortunately, none of the AI would even try to pass him, and a huge train of cars soon formed. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************