GPL frustrations

I remember now why GPL went back to EB two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider stays on the right and moves only slightly when the wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel, runs fine in all other games . When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. How can someone create such a beautiful driving model and the screw it up with buggy support routines? Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400) so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks. WS

In article <hKard.8991$[email hidden]>, "bernard spilman" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. >I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over >several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I >can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT >TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. >How can someone create such a beautiful driving model >and the screw it up with buggy support routines?

Wow - most people think Papy has the BEST controller support... I'll assume the wheel works correctly in the Windows game controller screen? In GPL, there's a screen checkbox somewhere that choosed between generic input and...(?) Crap, I can't remember what it's called, and GPL decided to act like a brat and not run on this system. Whatever setting it's on, change to the other one and re-cal in the game. Hope this helps. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 Hist. +82.34 N2k3 rank: -1.182 Slayer Spektera lvl 79 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 44 Necro US East

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <hKard.8991$[email hidden]>, "bernardspilman"

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. > >I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over > >several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I > >can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT > >TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. > >How can someone create such a beautiful driving model > >and the screw it up with buggy support routines? > > Wow - most people think Papy has the BEST controller support... I'll

assume > the wheel works correctly in the Windows game controller screen? In GPL, > there's a screen checkbox somewhere that choosed between generic input > and...(?) Crap, I can't remember what it's called, and GPL decided to actlike > a brat and not run on this system. Whatever setting it's on, change tothe > other one and re-cal in the game. > Hope this helps. > > Eldred Thanks for the reply, I believe you are speaking of "generic" vs "direct" input. I tried that and was told that "Windows NT (I have XP) does not have (support?) generic driver". I tried running GPL in Windows 98 compatibility mode but I couldn't even get through the menus. Who knows? I'm finding a lot of related sites and there have to be others who have had the same problem. WS

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bernard spilman wrote in news:hKard.8991$yC2.760431 @twister.southeast.rr.com:

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> I remember now why GPL went back to EB > two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will > not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate > screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider > stays on the right and moves only slightly when the > wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel, > runs fine in all other games . > > When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. > I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over > several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I > can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT > TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. > How can someone create such a beautiful driving model > and the screw it up with buggy support routines? > Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed > patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400) > so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks. > WS > >

Hmmm, very odd! I run GPL on my XP Home system and have no problems. (I know THAT doesn't help!) Did you go to the controller assignment page before you tried the calibration screen? Did you, in fact, turn the wheel LEFT when asked to do so? (It messes things up if you turn right when asked to turn left, but it's an easy thing to do -- he says from personal experience. <sigh>) Do you have more than one controller attached to your computer at the time? I sometimes play some of the flight sims, and if I forget to unplug the joystick before starting GPL, it will get confused or select the wrong controller. GPL wants the controller you are using to be the FIRST device. I can't think of anything else to suggest at the mo. Good luck! -- Darryl

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:36:35 GMT, Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>bernard spilman wrote in news:hKard.8991$yC2.760431 >@twister.southeast.rr.com: > >> I remember now why GPL went back to EB >> two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will >> not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate >> screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider >> stays on the right and moves only slightly when the >> wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel, >> runs fine in all other games . >> >> When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. >> I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over >> several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I >> can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT >> TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. >> How can someone create such a beautiful driving model >> and the screw it up with buggy support routines? >> Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed >> patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400) >> so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks. >> WS >> >> > >Hmmm, very odd! I run GPL on my XP Home system and have no problems. >(I know THAT doesn't help!) > >Did you go to the controller assignment page before you tried the >calibration screen? Did you, in fact, turn the wheel LEFT when asked >to do so? (It messes things up if you turn right when asked to turn >left, but it's an easy thing to do -- he says from personal >experience. <sigh>) > >Do you have more than one controller attached to your computer at the >time? I sometimes play some of the flight sims, and if I forget to >unplug the joystick before starting GPL, it will get confused or >select the wrong controller. GPL wants the controller you are using >to be the FIRST device.

Uhm, no. If you're using the DirectInput driver you can have multiple controllers, and the one you're using doesn't have to be the first. As a matter of fact you can use multiple controllers at the same time. You can select a different controller by clicking the golden arrows. Make sure the controllers are calibrated correctly in Windows before you're using them in GPL. The only problem I can think of is that the controller you're using does have a range larger than GPL can handle. (Over 2000 IIRC). Cheers! Remco

Certainly I would have to defend Papyrus for NOT putting bugger support routines in their games. I have always accredited them with simple, always works controller routines. But thats not helping you however so first things I would try is making sure that the your controller is 1. calibrated correctly in Windows 2. set as controller ID 1 in the Controller IDs tab in the windows setup. 3. make sure after you have calibrated in Windows that you are selecting "Direct controller" in GPL. Its weird that it works in other games and not GPL. As a rule the likes of Papyrus GPL, Nascars are the best and easiest to setup Cya Nigel Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm bernard spilman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hKard.8991$[email hidden]...

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> I remember now why GPL went back to EB > two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will > not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate > screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider > stays on the right and moves only slightly when the > wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel, > runs fine in all other games . > > When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. > I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over > several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I > can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT > TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. > How can someone create such a beautiful driving model > and the screw it up with buggy support routines? > Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed > patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400) > so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks. > WS > >

"Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:col825$4qa$[email hidden]... > Certainly I would have to defend Papyrus for NOT putting bugger support > routines in their games. I have always accredited them with simple, always > works controller routines. > > But thats not helping you however so first things I would try is makingsure

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> that the your controller is > > 1. calibrated correctly in Windows > 2. set as controller ID 1 in the Controller IDs tab in the windows setup. > 3. make sure after you have calibrated in Windows that you are selecting > "Direct controller" in GPL. > > Its weird that it works in other games and not GPL. As a rule the likes of > Papyrus GPL, Nascars are the best and easiest to setup > > Cya > Nigel > Redline Race Controls > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

I get a bit reactive and blame the software hastily too often. It must be a peculiarity with the wheel, because I got a joystick to work perfectly. I'll try the Windows ID check, but I've been meaning to get a new wheel soon, so now I have a good excuse. Thanks. WS

"EldredP" wrote... > <snip> > Crap, I can't remember what it's called, and GPL decided > to act like a brat and not run on this system. If you're doing a new install, note that GPL won't run on XP before you patch it to 1.2.0.2. If you've already done that (or are copying an old install), turn indexing on for the GPL folder and modify the lastRasterizer line in app.ini to read: lastRasterizerDLL = softdll.dll It should run then. Jan. =---

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>"EldredP" wrote... >> <snip> >> Crap, I can't remember what it's called, and GPL decided >> to act like a brat and not run on this system. > >If you're doing a new install, note that GPL won't run on XP before you >patch it to 1.2.0.2. If you've already done that (or are copying an old >install), turn indexing on for the GPL folder and modify the lastRasterizer >line in app.ini to read: lastRasterizerDLL = softdll.dll > >It should run then.

Nah, I was trying to run it on my old system(98se) just to find the name of the setting. GPL crashed then, and now it seems that Windows has simply melted down. It worked this past weekend, I didn't change a THING, and now the damn thing won't even BOOT. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 Hist. +82.34 N2k3 rank: -1.182 Slayer Spektera lvl 79 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 44 Necro US East

You have 5 years to make up, good luck... ;-) Good luck concerning your controller. JS On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 03:18:37 GMT, "bernard spilman" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I remember now why GPL went back to EB >two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

"bernard spilman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hKard.8991$[email hidden]...

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> I remember now why GPL went back to EB > two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will > not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate > screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider > stays on the right and moves only slightly when the > wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel, > runs fine in all other games . > > When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again. > I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over > several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I > can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT > TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo. > How can someone create such a beautiful driving model > and the screw it up with buggy support routines? > Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed > patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400) > so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks. > WS >

DXTweak2 may fix it. I find I have to use it with different settings for RT, GPL etc http://www.wingmanteam.com/files/Tools/DXTweak2/