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Re: f12000 = shit

25 posts by 16 people · 22 Mar 2000 - 24 Mar 2000 01:51 UTC

Dismissive verdicts on F1 2000

Several posters dismissed F1 2000 as poor, mocking its narrow cockpit view and comparing it unfavourably with GP3 footage. Others mocked the incoherent original post. Olav Malmin wondered whether WSC would deliver.

review/impressionsF1 2000

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Mark F. 22 Mar 2000#285495
Heck, I hate f1 racing myself, but I tell ya this much, and why I keep my mouth shut about it. Its very simple, if you can't beat their game WITH PROOF, THE SHUVE IT you stupid idiot "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6O2C4.38538$[email hidden]... > Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly > like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles,data > etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention > the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn thisone > for the sake of it. > >
Gregor Veble 22 Mar 2000 12:40 UTC#285449
Berno wrote: > Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one for the sake of it. The only sensible thing you wrote.
Todd Sorensen 22 Mar 2000 12:44 UTC#285445
You not? Berno <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6O2C4.38538$[email hidden]... > Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly > like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles,data > etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention > the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn thisone > for the sake of it. > >
Cliff Roman 22 Mar 2000 13:14 UTC#285451
I am sure that the makers of the game will be crushed to find out that you did not like it enough to steal it from them Berno <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6O2C4.38538$[email hidden]... > Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one > for the sake of it. > >
Mrv 22 Mar 2000 16:55 UTC#285388
I agree this thing is horrible. Waiting for Gp3 which will have no competion whatsoever this year. Berno wrote: > Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly > like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data > etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention > the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one > for the sake of it.
Scott B. Husted 22 Mar 2000 17:23 UTC#285390
ROFLMAO Cliff. Although the way he said it left a bit to be desired... what he said is not off the mark. Its not even worth stealing let alone paying for it <VBG> I sometimes seriously wonder if EA Sports has anyone involved who has actually driven any kind of a performance automobile. For Cliff: "But we have more OPTIONS now" ;) Scott PA-Scott PowerSims.com -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450
Chris Bloom 22 Mar 2000 17:45 UTC#285397
I regret wasting VST (Valuable sim time) downloading it. I guess we all got our punishment for being so naughty, though I think having to play F1 2000 was a bit harsh;-) Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
Cliff Roman 22 Mar 2000 18:37 UTC#285411
Hahah, quit saying that! :) Damn George for ever saying that to begin with Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > ROFLMAO Cliff. > > Although the way he said it left a bit to be desired... what he said isnot > off the mark. Its not even worth stealing let alone paying for it <VBG>I > sometimes seriously wonder if EA Sports has anyone involved who hasactually
Quoted text (14 lines)> driven any kind of a performance automobile. > > For Cliff: "But we have more OPTIONS now" ;) > > Scott > PA-Scott > PowerSims.com > > > -- > Scott B. Husted > ICQ# 4395450 > >
Andre Warringa 22 Mar 2000 19:17 UTC#285416
Thanks for the professional review :) Andre On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:18:49 +1100, "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly >like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data >etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention >the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one >for the sake of it. >
Rich 22 Mar 2000 20:24 UTC#285436
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:16:06 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>Thanks for the professional review :) > >Andre > >On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:18:49 +1100, "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly >>like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data >>etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention >>the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one >>for the sake of it. >> >
is it me but in cockpit view, the front two wheel look too close together ?? Rich http://come.to/rs-shifter
Chris Bloom 22 Mar 2000 21:05 UTC#285497
In article <[email hidden]>, "Mark F." <[email hidden]> wrote: >Heck, I hate f1 racing myself, but I tell ya this much, andwhy I keep my >mouth shut about it. Its very simple, if you can't beat theirgame WITH >PROOF, THE SHUVE IT you stupid idiot Can we have that in English please? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
ymenard 22 Mar 2000 22:38 UTC#285526
"Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote > For Cliff: "But we have more OPTIONS now" ;) Heheheh ;-D That has clearly taken the vocabulary of the online Nascar community. You know your a simracing freak when in real life you have either said "but you have more OPTIONS now (with the optional <vbg>)" or "gamulationT" ;-D Must be Brian's fault! -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
ymenard 22 Mar 2000 22:42 UTC#285527
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote > is it me but in cockpit view, the front two wheel look too close It's probably due to the effect I call "cropped out vision". The cockpit view is very different from our habitual racing simulators. It seems that instead of offering a view that is large, almost fish-eye, ISI has decided to crop the picture, which gives the opposite effect. Think about taking a widescreen movie, and stretching the picture so it fits the screen. Everything looks more thin, and you might find that there is an obvious effect is closeness in the cockpit. You also only see a small top portion of the tyres when you sit in a F1 cockpit, so the effect of seeing almost the entire tyre might give you that impression. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
AndrewS 22 Mar 2000 23:49 UTC#285349
"Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, "Mark F." > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Heck, I hate f1 racing myself, but I tell ya this much, and > why I keep my > >mouth shut about it. Its very simple, if you can't beat their > game WITH > >PROOF, THE SHUVE IT you stupid idiot > > Can we have that in English please? >
I'm not even sure that babelfish could translate that paragraph.
David Karr 23 Mar 2000 01:11 UTC#285358
When the Babelfish fails--ha!, Puny and Insipid Minnow!--bring out the big gun: the Dialectizer (http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/ ). Expert and Instant Translations!, in your choice of colorful flavors, one of which is "Redneck": "Heck, ah hate f1 racin' mahse'f, but ah tell ya this hyar much, an' whuffo' ah keep mah mouth shet about it. Its mighty simple, eff'n yo' kin't beat their game WITH PROOF, THE SHUVE IT yo' stoopid idiot" --DK "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MZcC4.7338$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Mark F." > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Heck, I hate f1 racing myself, but I tell ya this much, and > > why I keep my > > >mouth shut about it. Its very simple, if you can't beat their > > game WITH > > >PROOF, THE SHUVE IT you stupid idiot > > > > Can we have that in English please? > > > > I'm not even sure that babelfish could translate that paragraph. > >
Andre Warringa 23 Mar 2000 02:04 UTC#285332
You allready played GP3 I suppose? Andre On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:55:18 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>I agree this thing is horrible. Waiting for Gp3 which will have no competion >whatsoever this year. > >Berno wrote: > >> Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly >> like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data >> etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention >> the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one >> for the sake of it.
David L. Cook 23 Mar 2000 03:06 UTC#285139
I just watched the German Gamestar Mpeg for GP3 again, and I have to say now that I've seen F1 2000, the lack of TCP/IP in GP3 means less to me than it did before. Seeing how much fun I can have offline with AI in NFS5 (I'll buy this one) has given me new hope for GP3 - At least until WSC comes out. That will certainly be the multiplayer's dream. At least as fun as GPL since we know that Alison is assisting with the online development. The West's have sure built up some huge expectations for WSC. Do you think they will live up to RAS' high standards? Nobody has even considered the possibility that WSC will not deliver. It surely does not look like it will fail based on all the input we've had. But we had input for F1 2000 (not nearly as much though) - look at what it turned out to be... --David Cook In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote...
Quoted text (18 lines)> You allready played GP3 I suppose? > > Andre > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:55:18 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I agree this thing is horrible. Waiting for Gp3 which will have no competion > >whatsoever this year. > > > >Berno wrote: > > > >> Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly > >> like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data > >> etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention > >> the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one > >> for the sake of it. > >
Scott B. Husted 23 Mar 2000 03:38 UTC#285149
Damn Brian Tate! Throw in George Ojeda too ;) LOL -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" COO MMMGI ICQ# 4395450 http://www.MMMGI.com http://www.Acrotech.net http://www.Powersims.com http://www.InternetMotorsports.net ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1YbC4.4048$[email hidden]... > "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote > > For Cliff: "But we have more OPTIONS now" ;) > > Heheheh ;-D > > That has clearly taken the vocabulary of the online Nascar community. You > know your a simracing freak when in real life you have either said "but you > have more OPTIONS now (with the optional <vbg>)" or "gamulationT" ;-D > > Must be Brian's fault! > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > >
Berno 23 Mar 2000 04:13 UTC#285443
Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one for the sake of it.
Olav K. Malmin 23 Mar 2000 08:38 UTC#285245
[email hidden] (David L. Cook) writes:
Quoted text (15 lines)> I just watched the German Gamestar Mpeg for GP3 again, and I have to say > now that I've seen F1 2000, the lack of TCP/IP in GP3 means less to me > than it did before. > > Seeing how much fun I can have offline with AI in NFS5 (I'll buy this > one) has given me new hope for GP3 - At least until WSC comes out. That > will certainly be the multiplayer's dream. At least as fun as GPL since > we know that Alison is assisting with the online development. > > The West's have sure built up some huge expectations for WSC. Do you > think they will live up to RAS' high standards? Nobody has even > considered the possibility that WSC will not deliver. It surely does not > look like it will fail based on all the input we've had. But we had > input for F1 2000 (not nearly as much though) - look at what it turned > out to be...
That thought have struck me too. What if WSC fails to deliver? The only place I can see that it will not deliver might be that it may require a monster PC. But then again, the West's said in a chat earlier this year that they develop it on a PIII450, and they sure aren't satisfied with a bad framerate, thinking it will work better in the future. The reason I look forward to WSC is that what the West's have said about details in the physic tells me that they are the first since Papy to take this issue really serious. Physics first and then gameplay will come for free as a result of that. I feel that everything else is gameplay first and then try to make it look realistic. IMHO of course. But again, you never know, they might crash and burn because they have fed the sim community with enourmous expectations. I hope not. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Andre Warringa 23 Mar 2000 09:56 UTC#285280
Since the GPaL story, I won't believe anything anymore untill I saw and tested it myself... Andre On 23 Mar 2000 09:38:09 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)>That thought have struck me too. What if WSC fails to deliver? The only place >I can see that it will not deliver might be that it may require a monster >PC. But then again, the West's said in a chat earlier this year that they >develop it on a PIII450, and they sure aren't satisfied with a bad framerate, >thinking it will work better in the future. > >The reason I look forward to WSC is that what the West's have said about >details in the physic tells me that they are the first since Papy to take >this issue really serious. Physics first and then gameplay will come for >free as a result of that. I feel that everything else is gameplay first and >then try to make it look realistic. IMHO of course. > >But again, you never know, they might crash and burn because they have fed >the sim community with enourmous expectations. I hope not. > >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove spam when replying
You allready played GP3 I suppose? Andre
Quoted text (11 lines)>I agree this thing is horrible. Waiting for Gp3 which will have no competion >whatsoever this year. >> Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Its exactly >> like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles, data >> etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from another dimention >> the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn this one >> for the sake of it.
Scott(Outshined)Hoffner 23 Mar 2000 21:24 UTC#285010
Or you could call it "crapped out vision" <g> -- Scott aka Outshynd The driver formerly know as Outshined "33" in N3 27 in NL
Berno 24 Mar 2000 01:51 UTC#285278
Yer at the melbourne gp mate and that january build kicked this games arse! Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> You allready played GP3 I suppose? > > Andre > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:55:18 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I agree this thing is horrible. Waiting for Gp3 which will have no
competion > >whatsoever this year. > > > >Berno wrote: > > > >> Pahahahaha is this the gp3 killer you guys were raving about. Itsexactly > >> like f1 97-99 before it. Crud. pha what a waste of time, clock cycles,data > >> etc. The graphics are show and shit, the tracks are from anotherdimention > >> the sound is from the mega drive. Sheeesh I not even going to burn thisone > >> for the sake of it. >

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