Re: what happens when you die?

He means that he hasn't seen the battered and bloody body thrown from the car, Olav! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > In GPL ? Liar :) > > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

Why do you feel that the media (which media do you mean?) would have a field day? There is more simulated first-person blood and gore out there than would ever be produced by the depiction of an accident in GPL. Anyway, the sim is fine the way it is, IMO. There isn't any need for greater display of damage. Car smashes, back to the pits for a new one. "Olav K. Malmin" wrote:

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> "L_NiN0" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate > > based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get > > thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? > > Just estimates. When you go flat out into a house you just can't survive. I > would like to see realistic crashes where the car gets completely > disitegrated, but this would probably be looked at as very sick. The media > would have a field day too. > > > As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seen this... > > In GPL ? Liar :) > > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

ok....this is odd because just last night after posting this...here is what happened Im taking some qualifying laps at Monza trying to set a personal best when I overshoot the Parabolica and into the sand.. Backing out I neglected to check the mirror...BAM, Im hit dead on by a car entering the turn...possibly too fast himself. Next thing I know the screen goes to static and I have to ESC out of it...them Im all nice and warm feeling back in my car at the pits. SO - this leads me to wonder...when you die, instead of seeing a bright white light maybe you see static? Or was this just me blacking out? Because later in the same race an AI driver decided to cut over a hair early locking up our wheels and sending me on my head all the way down and through the tunnel...and again, I saw the static for a second but then it was back to a nice view of sparking pavement. Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "L_NiN0" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate > > based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get > > thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? > > Just estimates. When you go flat out into a house you just can't survive.

I > would like to see realistic crashes where the car gets completely > disitegrated, but this would probably be looked at as very sick. The media > would have a field day too. > > > As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seenthis...

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> > In GPL ? Liar :) > > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

L_NiN0 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate > based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get > thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? > > As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seenthis... > It's based on careful analysis of the .rpy file, using a special data translator that I wrote myself. It calculates the magnitude and duration of decelerations, localized to several key points on the body. These are then fed into a non-linear finite element model of the head and torso, which it then ported over to an SGI workstation, where finally a poroelastic formulation is used to partition the applied impact forces into fluid pressures and tissue strains within the brain and major internal organs. These are then compared to a vast database of injury data culled from 25 years of medical literature. No, actually we all just look at the replay and form a subjective opinion of how bad the accident was. :-) Stephen

I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seen this...

"L_NiN0" <[email hidden]> writes: > I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate > based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get > thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? Just estimates. When you go flat out into a house you just can't survive. I would like to see realistic crashes where the car gets completely disitegrated, but this would probably be looked at as very sick. The media would have a field day too. > As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seen this... In GPL ? Liar :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

> You don't get to play racing games any more. :-( On the plus side you don't have to go to work either! Can't wait. Andrew McP

In article <8b9vmc$4pe0v$[email hidden]>, "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >No, actually we all just look at the replay and form asubjective opinion of >how bad the accident was. :-) > >Stephen > I thought that when you get a snowy screen after a bad shunt that sort of signified you were either dead or unconcious. Chris > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

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interesting topic - I thought there was actually something coded in the first time it crashed to the desktop... Monza: just stood on it in the pits and started grabbing gears... came onto the track squirrely as hell right into the cross hairs of a Ferrari flat out... on impact my car started skyward, the revs went way overkill, just as I start thinking 'wow this is gonna be rowdy' silence and black screen then no more GPL - it was kinda spooky really... but while we're on the subject, I judge it by the "shudder factor" if watching the replay actually produces a wince, it probably wouldn't have gone well - first one was at Watkins Glen, coming out of the last left hander in the esses, I have a bad habit of over cooking it there and going wide, pushing about 130 I clipped the end of the guardrail on the right just before the rear wheel, dropped 100mph instantly, launched into the air, the engine went silent at the instant of impact and caught fire in the air, car rolled upside down just in time to slap the ground and skitter into the guardrail, just kinda sitting there silent and lifeless - it all happened in an instant - watching it in chase view it was kinda gruesome On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:41:21 -0600, "L_NiN0" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate >based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get >thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? > >As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seen this... > >

LOL! You need to be as accurate and realistic as possible when talking GPL... Rafe Mc On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:20:11 +0100, "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >L_NiN0 <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I saw some people talking about dying in GPL....is this just an estimate >> based on the type of crash they had or does your bloody body really get >> thrown from the cockpit so you can watch it in the replay?? >> >> As a novice and fairly conservative driver I cannot say I have seen >this... >> > >It's based on careful analysis of the .rpy file, using a special data >translator that I wrote myself. It calculates the magnitude and duration of >decelerations, localized to several key points on the body. These are then >fed into a non-linear finite element model of the head and torso, which it >then ported over to an SGI workstation, where finally a poroelastic >formulation is used to partition the applied impact forces into fluid >pressures and tissue strains within the brain and major internal organs. >These are then compared to a vast database of injury data culled from 25 >years of medical literature. > >No, actually we all just look at the replay and form a subjective opinion of >how bad the accident was. :-) > >Stephen > >

LOL On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:20:11 +0100, "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >It's based on careful analysis of the .rpy file, using a special data >translator that I wrote myself. It calculates the magnitude and duration of<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> writes:

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>>No, actually we all just look at the replay and form a >subjective opinion of >>how bad the accident was. :-) >> >>Stephen >> > >I thought that when you get a snowy screen after a bad shunt >that sort of signified you were either dead or unconcious. >

Well, it took out the onboard camera, anyway...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:50:16 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >He means that he hasn't seen the battered and bloody body thrown from the >car, Olav! Here's what I'd like to see: If you've been a clean racer who's never shunted anyone off the track, then upon crashing fatally you see a white light and polygonal angels lifting you out of the cockpit and into the heavens (Or you are suddenly placed in an in-cow perspective, depending on the belief you select in the player setup screen). However, woe betide the driver who races like John Surtees! We've already seen that the GPL graphics engine can handle flames decently... Martin Long Live Nigel Mansell!