Re: oh dear, still problems..

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner! Read my reply to your original post, then look at IRQ 11 (again). The USB Universal Host Controller supplied with Windows 98SE may not work with your AMD. Get the new one from www.via.com.tw (4 in 1 drivers) If you already have, try disabling Creative SB16 emulation. That's fixed problems in the past. ...Col Colin Harris <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:F5RC4.5604$[email hidden]...

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> here are my allocated IRQs...do they look wrong? > 0: System timer > 1: Keyboard > 2: Programmable interrupt controller > 3: Com 2 > 4: Com 1 > 5: Creative SB16 Emulation > 6: Floppy > 7: printer port > 8: CMOS > 9: (none listed) > 10: Creative SB live > 10(again): IRQ Holder for PCI Steering > 11. IRQ Holder for PCI Steering > 11(again): VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller > 12: 3dFX Voodoo 3 > 12(again):IRQ Holder for PCI Steering > 13: Numeric Data Processor > 14: VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller > 14(again) :Primary IDE controller dual fifo > 15: Secondary IDE Controller > 15(again):VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller > > -- > > Colin Harris > ColinHarris in N3/NL > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > ICQ 25485061 > > > > > > >

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:41:45 GMT, "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Lads, I realise this is getting a little wearing, but you should try it from >my end... > > Still having problems with certain, not all, games (add SBK2000 to the list >of not working ones..). Latest drivers for everything, not overcooking the >chip, etc, but still freezing. Can only press the reset button, can't even >exit to desktop. Now, is there a definitive site on the web that you know >about that could give me a list of possible suspects? > >Driving me potty...

What game? System/video/soundcard config? Driver versions? DX Version? Tried software mode? -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Do you have a motherboard with a VIA chipset??? If so there is a known issue with, and I quote "fast AMD systems" , Windows 98 SE and the USB port causing the screen to go black and lock your computer. Although they won't admit it, the problem is with the VIA USB driver that was shipped with Windows 98 SE. You need to get the 4-in-1 drivers from VIA. www.via.com.tw I scanned your other posts and can't find any mention of your motherboard chipset so I apologize if this is a blind alley. Your problems just sound identical to the ones I had and this fixed it for me. Cheers, ...Colin Colin Harris <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J8LC4.5105$[email hidden]... > Lads, I realise this is getting a little wearing, but you should try itfrom > my end... > > Still having problems with certain, not all, games (add SBK2000 to thelist

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> of not working ones..). Latest drivers for everything, not overcooking the > chip, etc, but still freezing. Can only press the reset button, can't even > exit to desktop. Now, is there a definitive site on the web that you know > about that could give me a list of possible suspects? > > Driving me potty... > > -- > > Colin Harris > ColinHarris in N3/NL > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > ICQ 25485061 > > >

Lads, I realise this is getting a little wearing, but you should try it from my end... Still having problems with certain, not all, games (add SBK2000 to the list of not working ones..). Latest drivers for everything, not overcooking the chip, etc, but still freezing. Can only press the reset button, can't even exit to desktop. Now, is there a definitive site on the web that you know about that could give me a list of possible suspects? Driving me potty... -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

this is getting WAY too technical for me!!! . May I suggest that you visit Eric Cote's site, he just here are my allocated IRQs...do they look wrong? 0: System timer 1: Keyboard 2: Programmable interrupt controller 3: Com 2 4: Com 1 5: Creative SB16 Emulation 6: Floppy 7: printer port 8: CMOS 9: (none listed) 10: Creative SB live 10(again): IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11. IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11(again): VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller 12: 3dFX Voodoo 3 12(again):IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 13: Numeric Data Processor 14: VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller 14(again) :Primary IDE controller dual fifo 15: Secondary IDE Controller 15(again):VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

here are my allocated IRQs...do they look wrong? 0: System timer 1: Keyboard 2: Programmable interrupt controller 3: Com 2 4: Com 1 5: Creative SB16 Emulation 6: Floppy 7: printer port 8: CMOS 9: (none listed) 10: Creative SB live 10(again): IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11. IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11(again): VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller 12: 3dFX Voodoo 3 12(again):IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 13: Numeric Data Processor 14: VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller 14(again) :Primary IDE controller dual fifo 15: Secondary IDE Controller 15(again):VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

Lads, I realise this is getting a little wearing, but you should try it from my end... Still having problems with certain, not all, games (add SBK2000 to the list of not working ones..). Latest drivers for everything, not overcooking the chip, etc, but still freezing. Can only press the reset button, can't even exit to desktop. Now, is there a definitive site on the web that you know about that could give me a list of possible suspects? Driving me potty... -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

Colin, It would help if you describe your system, including the driver version(s) you use. It also can help if you describe which problem(s) in which game(s) you have. Remco "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Lads, I realise this is getting a little wearing, but you should try it from >my end... > > Still having problems with certain, not all, games (add SBK2000 to the list >of not working ones..). Latest drivers for everything, not overcooking the >chip, etc, but still freezing. Can only press the reset button, can't even >exit to desktop. Now, is there a definitive site on the web that you know >about that could give me a list of possible suspects?

Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Colin, > > It would help if you describe your system, including the driver > version(s) you use. It also can help if you describe which problem(s) > in which game(s) you have. > > Remco >

You're absolutely right, Remco, and I'd already posted on the subject before, but here's what's happening... I've been posting about the problems I've had for some time. Most games run fine, some don't. Here's the good/bad: Good: N3, GPL, SCGT, Monaco, NL, etc Bad: SBK, GP500, SBK2000 inbetween (crashes, but not as often): Toca 2, McRae System: AMD K6 II 350, 128 Mb Ram, V3 2000 PCI, SB 1024...latest drivers on everything (I can tell you motherboard as well, if you like) What happens: Game completely freezes, sound loops in the background, picture locks, and no way of escaping. Do you happen to know what the first group of games have in common, but not to the second group? -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

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>I've been posting about the problems I've had for some time. Most games run >fine, some don't. Here's the good/bad: >Good: N3, GPL, SCGT, Monaco, NL, etc >Bad: SBK, GP500, SBK2000 >inbetween (crashes, but not as often): Toca 2, McRae > >System: AMD K6 II 350, 128 Mb Ram, V3 2000 PCI, SB 1024...latest drivers on >everything (I can tell you motherboard as well, if you like) > >What happens: Game completely freezes, sound loops in the background, >picture locks, and no way of escaping. > > Do you happen to know what the first group of games have in common, but not >to the second group?

Doesn't those last 3 games (SBK, etc.) all use D3D, where the first group uses 3DFX? Which DirectX version do you use? Normally this behaviour is a sign of an overheated videocard. But, since only a select group of games have this, I think you can rule that out. May I suggest that you visit Eric Cote's site, he just released a chronicle about IRQs. Maybe you'll find a solution there. Also, try the original 3dFX drivers which came with the videocard, just to check it that will make a difference. Another thing you can check is in what PCI slot you put the video- and cound card. Some cards don't like to be put in a certain PCI slot, especially when those PCI slots shared IRQs, for example with an ESA slot. Good luck. Remco

this is getting WAY too technical for me!!! Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... . May I suggest that you visit Eric Cote's site, he just

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> released a chronicle about IRQs. Maybe you'll find a solution there. > > Also, try the original 3dFX drivers which came with the videocard, > just to check it that will make a difference. > > Another thing you can check is in what PCI slot you put the video- and > cound card. Some cards don't like to be put in a certain PCI slot, > especially when those PCI slots shared IRQs, for example with an ESA > slot. > > Good luck. > > Remco >

here are my allocated IRQs...do they look wrong? 0: System timer 1: Keyboard 2: Programmable interrupt controller 3: Com 2 4: Com 1 5: Creative SB16 Emulation 6: Floppy 7: printer port 8: CMOS 9: (none listed) 10: Creative SB live 10(again): IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11. IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11(again): VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller 12: 3dFX Voodoo 3 12(again):IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 13: Numeric Data Processor 14: VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller 14(again) :Primary IDE controller dual fifo 15: Secondary IDE Controller 15(again):VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

here are my allocated IRQs...do they look wrong? 0: System timer 1: Keyboard 2: Programmable interrupt controller 3: Com 2 4: Com 1 5: Creative SB16 Emulation 6: Floppy 7: printer port 8: CMOS 9: (none listed) 10: Creative SB live 10(again): IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11. IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11(again): VIA tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller 12: 3dFX Voodoo 3 12(again):IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 13: Numeric Data Processor 14: VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller 14(again) :Primary IDE controller dual fifo 15: Secondary IDE Controller 15(again):VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061

"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: <Snip all> Seems ok to me. What DirectX version do you use? Remco

DX7a, but I've had this problem since maybe a year ago (different s/c, v/c then, and dx 5, I reckon..) -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061 Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > <Snip all> > > Seems ok to me. > > What DirectX version do you use? > > Remco > > > >

"Colin" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ding, ding, ding. >We have a winner! >Read my reply to your original post, then look at IRQ 11 (again). >The USB Universal Host Controller supplied with Windows 98SE may not work >with your AMD. >Get the new one from www.via.com.tw (4 in 1 drivers) >If you already have, try disabling Creative SB16 emulation. That's fixed >problems in the past.

Well spotted! But does that explain the lockups in certain games? Remco

Colin, Check your direct X version, run the dxdiag.exe program (should find it in the DixrectX folder). I was crashing with all most everything until I found that Direct X got corrupted with conflicting files from different versions. As Microsoft support said "It appears that during an upgrade to Direct X 7.0, something happen and it didn't completely update. Not all files from different versions are compatible." The only way I was able to fix this was to remove all registry entries refering to DX 7.0, physically delete the files and reload DX 6.1 and then reload DX 7.0. -- Wayne M. Grenon Team Grenon Motorsports http://members.xoom.com/teamgrenon/ Colin Harris <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J8LC4.5105$[email hidden]... > Lads, I realise this is getting a little wearing, but you should try it from > my end... > > Still having problems with certain, not all, games (add SBK2000 to the list > of not working ones..). Latest drivers for everything, not overcooking the > chip, etc, but still freezing. Can only press the reset button, can't even > exit to desktop. Now, is there a definitive site on the web that you know > about that could give me a list of possible suspects? > > Driving me potty... > > -- > > Colin Harris > ColinHarris in N3/NL > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > ICQ 25485061 > > >

I've tried that, too! All seems to be working well, except for this one error message.. Registry: Errors found: Key 'HKCR\CLSID\{92187326-72B4-11d0-A1AC-0000F8026977}\InProcHandler32', Value '', should be 'gchand.dll', but is ''." But all tests working perfectly... I'd also like to say that behind all the bickering and in-fighting that goes on in here, there are some wonderful minds and willing helpers - I thank you all. -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061 Wayne Grenon <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8bgqm4$aa6$[email hidden]... > Colin, > > Check your direct X version,

"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: >DX7a, but I've had this problem since maybe a year ago (different s/c, v/c >then, and dx 5, I reckon..) Did you ever reinstall Window inbetween? Remco

yes, I believe I did -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm ICQ 25485061 Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >DX7a, but I've had this problem since maybe a year ago (different s/c, v/c > >then, and dx 5, I reckon..) > > Did you ever reinstall Window inbetween? > > Remco

Colin, I believe the group of games that work are using Glide, while the second group are D3D-accelerated (not using the native Glide API). I have the same sort of problem with a VIA-chipset motherboard and an AMD K6-2 350 CPU and Voodoo Banshee PCI card, DX7. The 3DFx site recently (Feb 2000) posted new reference drivers specifically for DX7, and that helped me out a bit. You can grab the latest VIA drivers for your motherboard from this site: http://www.via.com.tw/drivers/index.htm This has helped my problems substantially, I believe. Still some glitches in some games, but my overall stability has improved drastically. Hope this helps. -- JB In article <nfPC4.5460$[email hidden]>, "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Colin, > > > > It would help if you describe your system, including the driver > > version(s) you use. It also can help if you describe which problem

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> > in which game(s) you have. > > > > Remco > > > You're absolutely right, Remco, and I'd already posted on the subject > before, but here's what's happening... > > I've been posting about the problems I've had for some time. Most

games run > fine, some don't. Here's the good/bad: > Good: N3, GPL, SCGT, Monaco, NL, etc > Bad: SBK, GP500, SBK2000 > inbetween (crashes, but not as often): Toca 2, McRae > > System: AMD K6 II 350, 128 Mb Ram, V3 2000 PCI, SB 1024...latestdrivers on > everything (I can tell you motherboard as well, if you like) > > What happens: Game completely freezes, sound loops in the background, > picture locks, and no way of escaping. > > Do you happen to know what the first group of games have in common,but not

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> to the second group? > > -- > > Colin Harris > ColinHarris in N3/NL > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > ICQ 25485061 > >

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:47:08 GMT Colin Harris <[email hidden]> wrote: % I've tried that, too! All seems to be working well, except for this one % error message.. % Registry: Errors found: % Key 'HKCR\CLSID\{92187326-72B4-11d0-A1AC-0000F8026977}\InProcHandler32', % Value '', should be 'gchand.dll', but is ''." % But all tests working perfectly... % I'd also like to say that behind all the bickering and in-fighting that goes % on in here, there are some wonderful minds and willing helpers - I thank you % all. This is a left-over registry entry from previous versions of DirectX and refers to the games controller handler. If you delete it from your registry the DirectX utility will say that files are missing and you need to re-install DirectX 7x. Just ignore this registry error. For some reason Microsoft is not concerned about this as all versions of DirectX 7 have had this oversight. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Colin, "gchand.dll" is a SB Live dll, I had to re-install it after I put SBK2000 on my system as it somehow deleted it from my system. Pete "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MfSC4.5730$[email hidden]...

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> I've tried that, too! All seems to be working well, except for this one > error message.. > > Registry: Errors found: > Key 'HKCR\CLSID\{92187326-72B4-11d0-A1AC-0000F8026977}\InProcHandler32', > Value '', should be 'gchand.dll', but is ''." > > But all tests working perfectly... > > I'd also like to say that behind all the bickering and in-fighting that

goes > on in here, there are some wonderful minds and willing helpers - I thankyou

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> all. > > -- > > Colin Harris > ColinHarris in N3/NL > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league > http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm > ICQ 25485061 > > Wayne Grenon <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8bgqm4$aa6$[email hidden]... > > Colin, > > > > Check your direct X version, > >