Re: GPL - Anymore patches?

CART Sim Features Sheet Important ones denoted with * All tracks* Good but easy to use Track Editor All cars (none fictional)* Fantasy Tracks 8^) GPL Physics or N3 if not GPL* All teams (tobacco and alcohol if possible)* native RENDITION support*** drafting* 3d Cockpits* 3d Physics engine that simulates true CART handling* Resolutions like 800x600 and 1024x768* Excellent car damage model so that no two crashes look alike* Realistic flip effects,like GPL and not Andretti Racing (boo) Comprehensive car setups, including springs, shocks, camber, weight jacker on ovals, static ride height, dampers, rebounds, bump stops, etc. * Realistic effects like bottoming out* Realistic debris that you can run over and damage your car on Random tire blowouts* Oil and other fluids from engine failures* Fire (highly unlikely this will be allowed by CART)* Realistic wall types and wall effects (Armco barriers do more damage than concrete, tire walls do less damage than concrete, tire walls cause car to get airborne and flip more than concrete and armcos, etc.)* Realistic gravel trap effects (Come on, you know you wanna do an Andretti at Mid-Ohio, admit it...)* Improved Paintkit* realistic sounds actually digitally recorded* animated pit stops* area in pit road that can be drivin off into the infield to get to victory lane..or garage* realistic cockpit that has hand on wheel like GPL* better frame rates/3d acceleration/1024x768 resolution* better engine, way more realistic damage to the car, the way the damage is spread across the track in real life...fliping catchin air on other tires* better smoke,skid marks and racing groove*, possible damage of the catch fencing* RED FLAGS* animated workers on the track after a wreck...and if possible ambulances or REAL tow-trucks* marks on the walls after a hit, animated flagmen* more options to change on the car in garage full field of cars* all the current tracks ( if possible...Indianapolis, since it rightfully is CART's) * realistic lookin part-time road courses like with the closed off streets and stuff* fire,fuel and oil leaks, (causin slippery race track)* possible damage to the pit wall..* animated OPPONENT pit stops* more realistic AI cars* weather changes like durin the race, rain, wind, etc* possible use of rain tires, and racing in the rain (regardless of if there was rain that season or not*)

Is anyone working on any more patches for GPL? If so what's in them? Any chance the best laps table can be extended to include Osring, Brands and Snetterton etc. Kev

I believe Papyrus has taken the position that they don't intend to patch GPL again. They are focusing on their next product and don't want to be distracted from it, which I understand. I can't see how a flurry of snail mail to Sierra, however, could do any harm. I feel that Sierra and Havas (and Papyrus) would benefit from a clear indication of the level of passion GPL has generated among its fans. This can only be of benefit to the chances of another road-racing sim from Papyrus at some time in the future. BTW, I've begun to compile a list of changes I'd like to see in a future patch to GPL, if there ever were such a thing. Saving best laps for expansion tracks is on my list, as is addressing the disconnect problems when racing online. I'd also like to see the host have the option of allowing Shift-R with realistic damage mode, with black flag pit stop penalties for the use of Shift-R. When online, I'd also like to see more cars to the rear when they are closer than the cars in front, and I'd like to see winked-out cars reappear as translucent (with collision detection disabled for that car) and gradually become solid, as happens in Viper. I have many more ideas, as I'm sure you and many other GPL fans do. I've put addresses for Sierra at the bottom of this email. Alison On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:04:29 +0100, Kev <[email hidden]> wrote: >Is anyone working on any more patches for GPL? If so what's in them? Any >chance the best laps table can be extended to include Osring, Brands and >Snetterton etc. > >Kev Sierra On-Line Technical Support P.O. Box 85006 Bellevue, WA 98015-8506 United Kingdom Havas Interactive 2 Beacontree Plaza, Gillette Way, Reading, Berkshire RG2 0BS United Kingdom France Havas Interactive Parc Tertiaire de Meudon Immeuble "Le Newton" 25 rue Jeanne Braconnier 92366 Meudon La For�t Cedex France Germany Havas Interactive Robert-Bosh-Str. 32 D-63303 Dreieich Deutschland Spain Havas Interactive Avenida de Burgos 9 1�-OF2 28036 Madrid Spain Alison From: [email hidden] Reply-To: [email hidden] Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me. http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com

I got the word directly from a source at Papy. No more patches for GPL are planned. As far as tracks or addons by third parties, I would suspect that they will continue. --David Cook Kev <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Is anyone working on any more patches for GPL? If so what's in them? Any > chance the best laps table can be extended to include Osring, Brands and > Snetterton etc. > > Kev

[email hidden] (TRUSRS85) wrote: >native RENDITION support*** Mwuhahahahahaha. Sure, please tell me where I can get (stable!) DirectX 7.0 drivers for Windows 98, ME, or 2000...... And, believe me, when Papyrus will release their new game, normally they do that end summer/early fall (NH), you already have a new graphics card.... Remco

Haha I have seen posts that get mad at Papy for releasing a GPL Patch (this is from a GPL Supporter btw) when they should have been working on N4, now I see a post that gets mad at Papy for not releasing another patch. I feel sorry for the software companies, it is a no-win game for them. (as far as satisfying the customers) Alison Hine <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I believe Papyrus has taken the position that they don't intend to patch > GPL again. They are focusing on their next product and don't want to be > distracted from it, which I understand. > > I can't see how a flurry of snail mail to Sierra, however, could do any > harm. I feel that Sierra and Havas (and Papyrus) would benefit from a > clear indication of the level of passion GPL has generated among its > fans. This can only be of benefit to the chances of another road-racing > sim from Papyrus at some time in the future. > > BTW, I've begun to compile a list of changes I'd like to see in a future > patch to GPL, if there ever were such a thing. > > Saving best laps for expansion tracks is on my list, as is addressing > the disconnect problems when racing online. I'd also like to see the > host have the option of allowing Shift-R with realistic damage mode, > with black flag pit stop penalties for the use of Shift-R. > > When online, I'd also like to see more cars to the rear when they are > closer than the cars in front, and I'd like to see winked-out cars > reappear as translucent (with collision detection disabled for that car) > and gradually become solid, as happens in Viper. I have many more > ideas, as I'm sure you and many other GPL fans do. > > I've put addresses for Sierra at the bottom of this email. > > Alison > > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:04:29 +0100, Kev <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Is anyone working on any more patches for GPL? If so what's in them? Any > >chance the best laps table can be extended to include Osring, Brands and > >Snetterton etc. > > > >Kev > > Sierra On-Line > Technical Support > P.O. Box 85006 > Bellevue, WA 98015-8506 > > > United Kingdom > > Havas Interactive > 2 Beacontree Plaza, > Gillette Way, > Reading, Berkshire > RG2 0BS United Kingdom > > > France > > Havas Interactive > Parc Tertiaire de Meudon > Immeuble "Le Newton" > 25 rue Jeanne Braconnier > 92366 Meudon La For�t Cedex > France > > > Germany > > Havas Interactive > Robert-Bosh-Str. 32 > D-63303 Dreieich > Deutschland > > > Spain > > Havas Interactive > Avenida de Burgos 9 > 1�-OF2 > 28036 Madrid > Spain > > Alison > > From: [email hidden] > Reply-To: [email hidden] > Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me. > http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com

"TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote > CART Sim Features Sheet Could you at least update it, since IIRC it's been at least a year since you post this hilarious message. Native Rendition rasterizer. Hmmm sure, are we going back to 1997? :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

In article <pmRC4.15429 $[email hidden]>, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >"TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote >> CART Sim Features Sheet > > >Could you at least update it, since IIRC it's been at least ayear since you >post this hilarious message. Native Rendition rasterizer.Hmmm sure, are >we going back to 1997? :) Well whenever this message pops up it can't help bringing a big smile to my face:) Chris

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> > > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.WeRace.net >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they

don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

My wish for another GPL patch would be a sound for hitting the bumpstops:)) On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:16:36 GMT, "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I got the word directly from a source at Papy. No more patches for GPL are >planned. As far as tracks or addons by third parties, I would suspect that >they will continue. > >--David Cook > >Kev <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Is anyone working on any more patches for GPL? If so what's in them? Any >> chance the best laps table can be extended to include Osring, Brands and >> Snetterton etc. >> >> Kev > >

In article <j8QC4.27$[email hidden]>, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Haha > >I have seen posts that get mad at Papy for releasing a GPL Patch (this is >from a GPL Supporter btw) when they should have been working on N4, now I >see a post that gets mad at Papy for not releasing another patch. > >I feel sorry for the software companies, it is a no-win game for them. (as >far as satisfying the customers) > > >Alison Hine <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I believe Papyrus has taken the position that they don't intend to patch >> GPL again. They are focusing on their next product and don't want to be >> distracted from it, which I understand.

Uh, she didn't say she was mad at Papyrus... Or are you talking about ANOTHER post? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >Haha > >I have seen posts that get mad at Papy for releasing a GPL Patch (this is > >from a GPL Supporter btw) when they should have been working on N4, now I > >see a post that gets mad at Papy for not releasing another patch. > >I feel sorry for the software companies, it is a no-win game for them.

(as > >far as satisfying the customers) > >> I believe Papyrus has taken the position that they don't intend to patch > >> GPL again. They are focusing on their next product and don't want to be > >> distracted from it, which I understand. > Uh, she didn't say she was mad at Papyrus... Or are you talking about ANOTHER

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> post? > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> Other posts Sorry Cliff, the position for "the annoying guy who keeps correcting other peoples spelling and grammar" has already been filled, Bruce K took that one a long time ago, probably before most people in here were even born.....:-))) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Huh? I was not correcting him, I was answering his question Sounds like you are trying to fill that spot also :)

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> > Other posts > Sorry Cliff, the position for "the annoying guy who keeps correcting > other peoples spelling and grammar" has already been filled, Bruce K > took that one a long time ago, probably before most people in here were > even born.....:-))) > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

> Huh? I was not correcting him, I was answering his question > Sounds like you are trying to fill that spot also :) Ah, sorry bout that, and to answer your Q, yes, when Bruce is not around, I try to fill his shoes, although I must say that my success is somewhat limited...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

I think that was "Eewwwwww . . . . cooties!"--but I was not around then. --DK

HAAA! I think the first chap I attempted to correct was Adam, in fact. He spelt her name "Eev". -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > > Other posts > Sorry Cliff, the position for "the annoying guy who keeps correcting > other peoples spelling and grammar" has already been filled, Bruce K > took that one a long time ago, probably before most people in here were > even born.....:-))) > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Well I *was* and he didn't say that. He actually said "COWABUNGA!!" -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- David Karr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8bp2vi$i6t$[email hidden]... > I think that was "Eewwwwww . . . . cooties!"--but I was not around then. > > --DK > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > HAAA! > > I think the first chap I attempted to correct was Adam, in fact. He spelt > > her name "Eev". > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia > >