Re: F1 2000 - Released Version

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:58:12 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Because I have a dual boot system. I installed F1 2000 to W2K to see if it >worked OK as I intend to move completely to W2K when Guillemot release FF >wheel drivers. After I convinced myself that it worked OK, I uninstalled it >and reinstalled in W98SE which I use for racing sims as my wheel just won't >work in W2K at the moment. >Satisfied? >Iain >

Actually, no, I'm not 'satisfied', Iain. On your dual-boot system how is video/sound etc. driver selection done? I do thank you though for finally making it clear which operating system you use.

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>rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:00:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" ><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! >> >> Then why did you post the following message a few hours ago? >> >> ======================================================================= >> >> Author: Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> >> Forum: rec.autos.simulators >> Message-ID: <JQKC4.298$[email hidden]> >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:25 GMT >> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators >> References: <[email hidden]> ><[email hidden]> >> >> Yep, it works OK for me on W2K. >> Iain >> >> Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > Right now it doesn't run well on any windows release. >> > >> > Falcon26 wrote: >> > >> > > Anyone know if F1 2000 will run on windows2000?????? >> > > >> >> =================================================================== >> >> >Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the >> >desktop? >> >> No, you first, Iain, ... which operating system are you using? >> >> >Iain >> > >> >rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:[email hidden]... >> >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" >> ><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, >touch >> >> >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the >> >desktop!!! >> >> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any >solutions? >> >> >Iain >> >> > >> >> Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE. >> >>

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:48:52 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: >The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! *plonk* -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > I've just tried it, and you're right Chuck, it's a FF problem. When I switch > it off the problem goes away! > So, if they sort that, the poor frame rate in a race, and the AI out, we > might actually have a reasonable sim here! What FF wheel are you using, Iain? Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:00:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! Then why did you post the following message a few hours ago? ======================================================================= Author: Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> Forum: rec.autos.simulators Message-ID: <JQKC4.298$[email hidden]> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:25 GMT Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators References: <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> Yep, it works OK for me on W2K. Iain Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Right now it doesn't run well on any windows release. > > Falcon26 wrote: > > > Anyone know if F1 2000 will run on windows2000?????? > > =================================================================== >Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the >desktop? No, you first, Iain, ... which operating system are you using?

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>Iain > >rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" ><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, touch >> >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the >desktop!!! >> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any solutions? >> >Iain >> > >> Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE. >>

-- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, touch >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the desktop!!! >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any solutions? >Iain >Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE. -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

>I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! Then why did you post the following message a few hours ago? ======================================================================= Forum: rec.autos.simulators NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:25 GMT Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Yep, it works OK for me on W2K. Iain > Right now it doesn't run well on any windows release. > > > > Anyone know if F1 2000 will run on windows2000?????? > > =================================================================== No, you first, Iain, ... which operating system are you using?

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>Iain >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" >> >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, touch >> >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the >desktop!!! >> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any solutions? >> >Iain >> Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE.

-- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Because I have a dual boot system. I installed F1 2000 to W2K to see if it worked OK as I intend to move completely to W2K when Guillemot release FF wheel drivers. After I convinced myself that it worked OK, I uninstalled it and reinstalled in W98SE which I use for racing sims as my wheel just won't work in W2K at the moment. Satisfied? Iain

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> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:00:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" > >I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! > Then why did you post the following message a few hours ago? > ======================================================================= > Forum: rec.autos.simulators > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:25 GMT > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > Yep, it works OK for me on W2K. > Iain > > Right now it doesn't run well on any windows release. > > > Anyone know if F1 2000 will run on windows2000?????? > =================================================================== > >Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the > >desktop? > No, you first, Iain, ... which operating system are you using? > >Iain > >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" > >> >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track,

touch > >> >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the > >desktop!!! > >> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any solutions? > >> >Iain > >> Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE. > -- > * rrev at mindspring dot com *

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>Because I have a dual boot system. I installed F1 2000 to W2K to see if it >worked OK as I intend to move completely to W2K when Guillemot release FF >wheel drivers. After I convinced myself that it worked OK, I uninstalled it >and reinstalled in W98SE which I use for racing sims as my wheel just won't >work in W2K at the moment. >Satisfied? >Iain

Actually, no, I'm not 'satisfied', Iain. On your dual-boot system how is video/sound etc. driver selection done? I do thank you though for finally making it clear which operating system you use.

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>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:00:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" >> >I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! >> Then why did you post the following message a few hours ago? >> ======================================================================= >> Forum: rec.autos.simulators >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:25 GMT >> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators >> Yep, it works OK for me on W2K. >> Iain >> > Right now it doesn't run well on any windows release. >> > > Anyone know if F1 2000 will run on windows2000?????? >> =================================================================== >> >Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the >> >desktop? >> No, you first, Iain, ... which operating system are you using? >> >Iain >> >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" >> >> >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, >touch >> >> >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the >> >desktop!!! >> >> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any >solutions? >> >> >Iain >> >> Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE.

-- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, touch another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the desktop!!! I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any solutions? Iain

I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the desktop? Iain rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie"<[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track, touch > >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top thedesktop!!!

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> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Any solutions? > >Iain > > > Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE. > > -- > * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! > Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the > desktop? > Iain No, it doesn't do it to me either. Think I've heard of it being related to force feedback. I don't have mine enabled right now, may be the difference. Try disabling yours & see what happens. Just got the full retail. =-)) There was only 1 left at the EB here in Detroit! -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

Because I have a dual boot system. I installed F1 2000 to W2K to see if it worked OK as I intend to move completely to W2K when Guillemot release FF wheel drivers. After I convinced myself that it worked OK, I uninstalled it and reinstalled in W98SE which I use for racing sims as my wheel just won't work in W2K at the moment. Satisfied? Iain rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:00:49 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie"<[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! > > Then why did you post the following message a few hours ago? > > ======================================================================= > > Author: Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> > Forum: rec.autos.simulators > Message-ID: <JQKC4.298$[email hidden]> > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:25 GMT > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > References: <[email hidden]>

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> > Yep, it works OK for me on W2K. > Iain > > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Right now it doesn't run well on any windows release. > > > > Falcon26 wrote: > > > > > Anyone know if F1 2000 will run on windows2000?????? > > > > > =================================================================== > > >Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to the > >desktop? > > No, you first, Iain, ... which operating system are you using? > > >Iain > > > >rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:22:16 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> >Can't even give an opinion because every time I go off the track,

touch > >> >another car, touch a wall, the program just kicks me back top the > >desktop!!! > >> >I've seen previous posts on the warez version doing this. Anysolutions?

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> >> >Iain > >> > > >> Maybe its Windows 2000. It has never crashed on my Win98SE. > >> > > -- > * rrev at mindspring dot com *

You might be right about the FF thing Chuck, I'll try it later - thanks. Iain Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! > > Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back tothe

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> > desktop? > > Iain > > No, it doesn't do it to me either. Think I've heard of it being related > to force feedback. I don't have mine enabled right now, may be the > difference. Try disabling yours & see what happens. > > Just got the full retail. =-)) There was only 1 left at the EB here in > Detroit! > > -- > Chuck Kandler #70 > K&S Racing > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > They'll call you names > And spit in your face, > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

I've just tried it, and you're right Chuck, it's a FF problem. When I switch it off the problem goes away! So, if they sort that, the poor frame rate in a race, and the AI out, we might actually have a reasonable sim here! Iain Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gOPC4.845$[email hidden]...

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> You might be right about the FF thing Chuck, I'll try it later - thanks. > Iain > > Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > > > I'm not on W2K, its W98SE I'm using! > > > Try in Test Day going into a wall at Monza. Does it crash you back to > the > > > desktop? > > > Iain > > > > No, it doesn't do it to me either. Think I've heard of it being related > > to force feedback. I don't have mine enabled right now, may be the > > difference. Try disabling yours & see what happens. > > > > Just got the full retail. =-)) There was only 1 left at the EB here in > > Detroit! > > > > -- > > Chuck Kandler #70 > > K&S Racing > > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > > > They'll call you names > > And spit in your face, > > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons > >

On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 13:27:23 +0100, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>rrevved wrote: >> >> On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:48:52 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! >> >> *plonk* > >See, that's what I find so silly and childish about your plonking. >While Mrv's message was quite silly and childish, most people here >would just ignore it. > >Why the hell do you think there's a need to send another message >only containing the word "plonk"?

*plonk* -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

rrevved wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:48:52 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! > > *plonk* See, that's what I find so silly and childish about your plonking. While Mrv's message was quite silly and childish, most people here would just ignore it. Why the hell do you think there's a need to send another message only containing the word "plonk"? -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > I've just tried it, and you're right Chuck, it's a FF problem. When I switch > it off the problem goes away! > So, if they sort that, the poor frame rate in a race, and the AI out, we > might actually have a reasonable sim here! > Iain Odd thing, really. Because of the problems I'd heard about with the FF, and your own problems confirming it, I hadn't tried it until just now. I have a LWFF, & there is no problem of this sort whatsoever. I wonder if those with this particular problem are all using the same kind of wheel? Driver conflict? This title just screams out for a Glide patch! An AI fix would be nice too. However the potential showstoppers seem to be 2: 1)Inability to save during a session, & 2)no way (that I've found, at least) to save your race results. Really hurts for any off or online league potential. But I like this title. Took a little tweaking, but she's running fine on this C466/V3. Course the additional 128MB stick of PC133 I added this morning probably helps too. =-) -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! Chuck Kandler wrote:

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> Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > I've just tried it, and you're right Chuck, it's a FF problem. When I switch > > it off the problem goes away! > > So, if they sort that, the poor frame rate in a race, and the AI out, we > > might actually have a reasonable sim here! > > Iain > > Odd thing, really. Because of the problems I'd heard about with the FF, > and your own problems confirming it, I hadn't tried it until just now. > I have a LWFF, & there is no problem of this sort whatsoever. I wonder > if those with this particular problem are all using the same kind of > wheel? Driver conflict? > > This title just screams out for a Glide patch! An AI fix would be nice > too. However the potential showstoppers seem to be 2: 1)Inability to > save during a session, & 2)no way (that I've found, at least) to save > your race results. Really hurts for any off or online league > potential. But I like this title. Took a little tweaking, but she's > running fine on this C466/V3. Course the additional 128MB stick of > PC133 I added this morning probably helps too. =-) > > -- > Chuck Kandler #70 > K&S Racing > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > They'll call you names > And spit in your face, > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

For SCGT, the GTIC offline league...we wrote a program that zips up the car files and screenshots when you take them of the qualifying results and race results and it's then uploaded to our server...and the zips are password protected. It doesn't hurt leagues that much at all, we can always get around anything. I also find it funny how some people are complaining about fps problems when GP2 was horrid when it came out on my computer and it wasnt until a few years later that I was able to max most everything out. Each car in F12000 has 1200 polys, all we have to do is figure out the new vrl format and then reduce the poly count to (hopefully) 600-800 and the fps will drastically change for the better. Right now there's about 25,200 polys for the 21 cars. If they're reduced to say, 700 each there would only be 14,700 polys on the track with 32 cars, that's 10,000 polys removed and less for the cpu to handle. -Adam Zerlin "Chuck Kandler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > I've just tried it, and you're right Chuck, it's a FF problem. When Iswitch

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> > it off the problem goes away! > > So, if they sort that, the poor frame rate in a race, and the AI out, we > > might actually have a reasonable sim here! > > Iain > > Odd thing, really. Because of the problems I'd heard about with the FF, > and your own problems confirming it, I hadn't tried it until just now. > I have a LWFF, & there is no problem of this sort whatsoever. I wonder > if those with this particular problem are all using the same kind of > wheel? Driver conflict? > > This title just screams out for a Glide patch! An AI fix would be nice > too. However the potential showstoppers seem to be 2: 1)Inability to > save during a session, & 2)no way (that I've found, at least) to save > your race results. Really hurts for any off or online league > potential. But I like this title. Took a little tweaking, but she's > running fine on this C466/V3. Course the additional 128MB stick of > PC133 I added this morning probably helps too. =-) > > -- > Chuck Kandler #70 > K&S Racing > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > They'll call you names > And spit in your face, > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

You seem to have a basic misunderstanding of what a dual boot is. At boot up a screen asks which OS to boot into, i.e. W98 or W2K. Which ever is selected uses its own video/sound drivers - the 2 OS are not connected in any way. I use V3 3000 and SBLive and 3Dfx and Creative have drivers for W2K. W2K also supports DX7 OOTB so it is as good as W98 IMHO at running games - and a damn sight more stable. Iain > Actually, no, I'm not 'satisfied', Iain. On your dual-boot > system how is video/sound etc. driver selection done? >

I'm using the Guillemot ferrari FF wheel. Don't know about other people who have the problem. Iain Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > I've just tried it, and you're right Chuck, it's a FF problem. When Iswitch

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> > it off the problem goes away! > > So, if they sort that, the poor frame rate in a race, and the AI out, we > > might actually have a reasonable sim here! > > Iain > > Odd thing, really. Because of the problems I'd heard about with the FF, > and your own problems confirming it, I hadn't tried it until just now. > I have a LWFF, & there is no problem of this sort whatsoever. I wonder > if those with this particular problem are all using the same kind of > wheel? Driver conflict? > > This title just screams out for a Glide patch! An AI fix would be nice > too. However the potential showstoppers seem to be 2: 1)Inability to > save during a session, & 2)no way (that I've found, at least) to save > your race results. Really hurts for any off or online league > potential. But I like this title. Took a little tweaking, but she's > running fine on this C466/V3. Course the additional 128MB stick of > PC133 I added this morning probably helps too. =-) > > -- > Chuck Kandler #70 > K&S Racing > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > They'll call you names > And spit in your face, > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

Hi Iain, I was thinking of picking up a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel... I know it has hand paddels for shifting and I was just wondering if those paddels could be setup to be used as hand analog gas\brake controls for those times when you dont want to use the floor unit ? If this is true, would those very complex looking thumb buttons be able to be used for shifting ? (one of them looks like a "hat switch"). If it cant be done with this wheel does anyone know of a wheel where you can use the shifting paddles as analog gas\brake controls ? Believe it ot not an old Thrustmaster GP1 wheel is my favorite..... but I would like to replace it with something that offers both hand and foot throttle\brake control (and I want to avoid getting a Thrustmaster Sprint wheel if I can). Thanks for any help, Lorne Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YYZC4.1652$[email hidden]... > I'm using the Guillemot ferrari FF wheel. Don't know about other peoplewho > have the problem. > Iain

> What's so childish about my comment*** head. It is the truth this game > sucks. See there Ronny? A great example of his mature posts & well thought out reasons for disliking this title. <GG> -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:10:02 GMT Lorne Glustein <[email hidden]> wrote: % Hi Iain, % I was thinking of picking up a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel... I know it has % hand paddels for shifting and I was just wondering if those paddels could be % setup to be used as hand analog gas\brake controls for those times when you % dont want to use the floor unit ? If this is true, would those very complex % looking thumb buttons be able to be used for shifting ? (one of them looks % like a "hat switch"). If it cant be done with this wheel does anyone know % of a wheel where you can use the shifting paddles as analog gas\brake % controls ? Believe it ot not an old Thrustmaster GP1 wheel is my % favorite..... but I would like to replace it with something that offers both % hand and foot throttle\brake control (and I want to avoid getting a % Thrustmaster Sprint wheel if I can). There are 2 sets of paddles on the back.... One is for shifters (switched) and the other can be used as gas and brake (analog). Just unplug the pedals to get the analog paddles to be recognized. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

What's so childish about my comment dick head. It is the truth this game sucks. Ronald Stoehr wrote:

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> rrevved wrote: > > > > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:48:52 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! > > > > *plonk* > > See, that's what I find so silly and childish about your plonking. > While Mrv's message was quite silly and childish, most people here > would just ignore it. > > Why the hell do you think there's a need to send another message > only containing the word "plonk"? > > -- > l8er > ronny > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Mrv wrote: > > What's so childish about my comment dick head. It is the truth this game > sucks. > See there Ronny? A great example of his mature posts & well thought out reasons for disliking this title. <GG> -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

*ignore* Andre On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:39:47 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>What's so childish about my comment dick head. It is the truth this game >sucks. > >Ronald Stoehr wrote: > >> rrevved wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:48:52 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: >> > >> > >The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! >> > >> > *plonk* >> >> See, that's what I find so silly and childish about your plonking. >> While Mrv's message was quite silly and childish, most people here >> would just ignore it. >> >> Why the hell do you think there's a need to send another message >> only containing the word "plonk"? >> >> -- >> l8er >> ronny >> >> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change >> to take effect. Reboot now? >> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, >> ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. >> |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, >> '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Thanks for the info :) Just one question, if you use the analog hand paddels for gas\brake how can you use the (switched) shifter paddels that are also located on the back of the wheel at the same time ? I would think that you would need to use the thumb buttons to shift... but they dont look like normal buttons, so I wonder if they can do the job. Thanks for the help, All the best, Lorne Michael E. Carver <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ko4D4.859$[email hidden]... > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:10:02 GMT Lorne Glustein <[email hidden]> wrote: > % Hi Iain, > % I was thinking of picking up a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel... I know ithas > % hand paddels for shifting and I was just wondering if those paddelscould be > % setup to be used as hand analog gas\brake controls for those times whenyou > % dont want to use the floor unit ? If this is true, would those verycomplex > % looking thumb buttons be able to be used for shifting ? (one of themlooks > % like a "hat switch"). If it cant be done with this wheel does anyoneknow > % of a wheel where you can use the shifting paddles as analog gas\brake > % controls ? Believe it ot not an old Thrustmaster GP1 wheel is my > % favorite..... but I would like to replace it with something that offersboth

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> % hand and foot throttle\brake control (and I want to avoid getting a > % Thrustmaster Sprint wheel if I can). > > There are 2 sets of paddles on the back.... One is for shifters > (switched) and the other can be used as gas and brake (analog). Just > unplug the pedals to get the analog paddles to be recognized. > > -- > **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 10:20:51 GMT Lorne Glustein <[email hidden]> wrote: % Thanks for the info :) Just one question, if you use the analog hand % paddels for gas\brake how can % you use the (switched) shifter paddels that are also located on the back of % the wheel at the same time ? I would think that you would need to use the % thumb buttons to shift... but they dont look like % normal buttons, so I wonder if they can do the job. Yes, the switched paddles are available whether you use the pedals or paddles for gas/brake. There are also 2 small buttons on the front along with one 4 position button and one POV button with 8 positions. All together this could give you 16 buttons to play with. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

In article <7wlD4.5044$[email hidden]> "Lorne Glustein" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Thanks for the info :) Just one question, if you use the analog hand > paddels for gas\brake how can > you use the (switched) shifter paddels that are also located on the back of > the wheel at the same time ? I would think that you would need to use the > thumb buttons to shift... but they dont look like > normal buttons, so I wonder if they can do the job. Since there are 2 sets of paddels behind the wheel, yes you can use both the analog gas/brake paddels and the shifting paddels to control the car. One set is on-off (digital), the other is 0-100% (analog), and are physically not related to each other. Dennis.

I think you forgot the 'IMHO' in your last message as I am sure you didn't mean to infer that you were speaking for the rest of us ;O) Peter Hooper Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> What's so childish about my comment dick head. It is the truth this game > sucks. > > Ronald Stoehr wrote: > > > rrevved wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:48:52 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the

Garbage"!!!

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> > > > > > *plonk* > > > > See, that's what I find so silly and childish about your plonking. > > While Mrv's message was quite silly and childish, most people here > > would just ignore it. > > > > Why the hell do you think there's a need to send another message > > only containing the word "plonk"? > > > > -- > > l8er > > ronny > > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > > to take effect. Reboot now? > > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off! >

This race results problem is also something I wish they had thought through. Even as far back as GP2 we could save results, best laps, etc. Definately a bad oversight to not have anything like that available here. Peter Hooper Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> This title just screams out for a Glide patch! An AI fix would be nice > too. However the potential showstoppers seem to be 2: 1)Inability to > save during a session, & 2)no way (that I've found, at least) to save > your race results. Really hurts for any off or online league > potential. But I like this title. Took a little tweaking, but she's > running fine on this C466/V3. Course the additional 128MB stick of > PC133 I added this morning probably helps too. =-) > > -- > Chuck Kandler #70 > K&S Racing > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 > > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! > > They'll call you names > And spit in your face, > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

For you maybe.. but there are plenty of us that are fully enjoying the sim having given it a decent chance. Peter Hooper Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The only thing this things screams for is "Throw me in the Garbage"!!! >