Re: Should I buy F1 2000 ????

Joel Minero wrote: > > I brought the game home yesterday is off my hard drive today you can fix > something that is fundamentally wrong, the driving model is all wrong the > car seems to have a pin in the middle of this center just to mention one of > the many shortfalls of this game. It's too bad you don't like it. I think the driving model is pretty good. It felt right the first time I tried it. There are some controller issues and things that could be improved, but, overall I think it's good. > If you have a copy of F1RS GIVE IT A TRY you will have a better time with > it then with F12K in my opinion ; ). I was never able to enjoy F1RS at all. The car _really_ felt disconnected from the pavement. For me, F1 2000 'feels' better in terms of handling than everything else but GPL. -- Pat Dotson IMPACT Motorsports http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:45:31 +0100, "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But >is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > >Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > >Rich. > >

I really like it! ...next? -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

I cant give you a very firm answer unfortunately. At first blush I thought all the gripes were right and was ready to return it. But I tweaked and played, rinse lather repeat - and now have a pretty good time of it. AS far as the speed, I used a grpihcs file found here or at SIMRACINGNEWS in the forums and now do about 19 - 20 at the start and can get as high as 30 if I drop back real far or pull ahead real far, but otherwise I stay around 20 or so maybe 15 if there a lot of activity. the racing feels OK... I say OK becuase I have become acustomed to FF and found that for racing it really adds to the game if dnoe well, nad here its not worht having, the wrost part is not being able to "feel" when you are getting loose and spinning. I think FF could have added tons here. It is a fun game solo, but the racing with the AI cranked is a rush and the game overall feels good. THere is a tweaking curve to be scaled and I think that a lot of folks have their favorite sims and can jump in and play them without any hassles, here you are going to get annoyed at first, then if you work at it there seems to be a decent sim in there. good luck, buy from EB, gie it a few days and you may find a gem. ed My problem is I dont know if I feel like spending my gaming time tweaking the sim to get it where I want it... I will probably keep it becuase at $29 its a good buy. Rich <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > Rich. > > >

Really love the game!

I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? Rich.

"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > Rich. > >

I really don't like it! ...next? -- * yves dot menard at sympatico dot ca * ;-)

I'm warming to it a lot more now that some graphics issues and AI speeds have been sorted out. Iain ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zYpD4.18095$[email hidden]... > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG.But

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> > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > > > Rich. > > > > > I really don't like it! > > ...next? > > -- > * yves dot menard at sympatico dot ca * > > > > > > ;-) > >

I brought the game home yesterday is off my hard drive today you can fix something that is fundamentally wrong, the driving model is all wrong the car seems to have a pin in the middle of this center just to mention one of the many shortfalls of this game. If you have a copy of F1RS GIVE IT A TRY you will have a better time with it then with F12K in my opinion ; ). Regards Joel "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > Rich. > > >

Absolutely! Rich wrote: > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > Rich.

Really love the game! Rich <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]...

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> > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > Rich. > > >

It's good, it has its flaws but its a solid racing game with a lot of potential now being unlocked by people Regards Mike Ps The multiplayer is brilliant On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:45:31 +0100, "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But >is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > >Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > >Rich. > >

I totally agree! Iain Pat Dotson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Joel Minero wrote: > > > > I brought the game home yesterday is off my hard drive today you can fix > > something that is fundamentally wrong, the driving model is all wrongthe > > car seems to have a pin in the middle of this center just to mention oneof

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> > the many shortfalls of this game. > > It's too bad you don't like it. I think the driving model > is pretty good. It felt right the first time I tried it. > There are some controller issues and things that could be > improved, but, overall I think it's good. > > > If you have a copy of F1RS GIVE IT A TRY you will have a better time

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> > it then with F12K in my opinion ; ). > > I was never able to enjoy F1RS at all. The car _really_ > felt disconnected from the pavement. > > For me, F1 2000 'feels' better in terms of handling > than everything else but GPL. > > -- > Pat Dotson > IMPACT Motorsports > http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

Don't waste your money = Don't buy F1 2000. Rich <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I know there have been many criticisms of this game so far in this NG. But > is it worth playing ? Anyone actually like the game ? > > Loved GP2, can't wait for GP3, so will this keep me going until then ? > > Rich. > > >

Don't waste your money = Don't buy F1 2000.

I haven't read too much about the controller issues. I bought the game as soon as it came out on Friday and also am finding a few things that do not seem quite right controller wise. I am using a LWFF and although it calibrates everything ok I just feel that the gear changes are a little flakey... I feel that I need to keep checking the display to make sure the gear change I think I have made has actually been recognised. Don't have this problem in any other sim just this one. Is this what you are referring to or is there something else. The FF is pretty poor also... unless someone has managed to find a way to tweak this side of things. Peter Hooper > > I brought the game home yesterday is off my hard drive today you can fix > > something that is fundamentally wrong, the driving model is all wrong the > > car seems to have a pin in the middle of this center just to mention one of

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> > the many shortfalls of this game. > It's too bad you don't like it. I think the driving model > is pretty good. It felt right the first time I tried it. > There are some controller issues and things that could be > improved, but, overall I think it's good. > > If you have a copy of F1RS GIVE IT A TRY you will have a better time

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> > it then with F12K in my opinion ; ). > I was never able to enjoy F1RS at all. The car _really_ > felt disconnected from the pavement. > For me, F1 2000 'feels' better in terms of handling > than everything else but GPL. > -- > Pat Dotson > IMPACT Motorsports > http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

I agree with Pat. The driving model seems adequate to me and it's fun to drive! I'm no where near competitive yet as I choose the slower cars and keep the performance to realistic levels. I was really happy when I found that "Auto Reverse" option and turned it off :-D Before purchasing F1-2001 I would need a faster computer OR they would really need a polished game -- at least practice and qualificiation for multiplay ;-) Jason. Pat Dotson wrote:

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> Joel Minero wrote: > > > > I brought the game home yesterday is off my hard drive today you can fix > > something that is fundamentally wrong, the driving model is all wrong the > > car seems to have a pin in the middle of this center just to mention one of > > the many shortfalls of this game. > > It's too bad you don't like it. I think the driving model > is pretty good. It felt right the first time I tried it. > There are some controller issues and things that could be > improved, but, overall I think it's good. > > -- > Pat Dotson > IMPACT Motorsports > http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

I think you need to test drive a real formula one car... then maybe you will know how well its driving model is. But just so you know... formula one cars' center of gravity is in the center of the car. Now perhaps the effect you see is enhanced because you cannot feel the effect of the cars center of gravity... thus the 'pin in the middle' is a 'best guesstimate' of what it is supposed to be.

>I think you need to test drive a real formula one car... then maybe you will >know how well its driving model is. >But just so you know... formula one cars' center of gravity is in the center >of the car. Now perhaps the effect you see is enhanced because you cannot >feel the effect of the cars center of gravity... The centre of mass is nowhere near the geometric centre - the engine and transmission are quite heavy! But the cars are balanced for fairly neutral steer. -- Mat.

"Peter Hooper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:duQD4.4543$[email hidden]... > The FF is pretty poor also... unless someone has managed to find a way to > tweak this side of things. Have you set the Speed Sensitivty to 0 (you will probably have to lower the overall controller sensitivity as well) ? Ryan