RSC-Any News?

I need my RSC!!!! Anyone have any kind of update?? TIA Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured annually by their clothing.

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> I need my RSC!!!! Anyone have any kind of update?? > > TIA > > > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > **** > Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured > annually by their clothing. >

There's a simple, one-page update at RSC: "We have discovered certain unsecure code in some sub-sites , which resulted in Us taking down the site to restructure the installation in general. Unfortunately we had no time to put out information regarding this, and we therefore hope that we will get the rscnet.org back online real fast." Alan.

On 09 Dec 2004 15:00:14 GMT, TlgtrProd wrote: > I need my RSC!!!! Anyone have any kind of update?? > > TIA > > > Kevin (aka tlgtr) Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) Cheers, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

>Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet >instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) oooh somehow I think that won't go unchallenged ;) Couldn't agree more. btw. I know it's a labour of love for the guys who put it together and I appreciate the effort and intent but I can never find what I'm looking for in there, but I can find 50 different varieities of smilies...

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> > Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet > instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) > > Cheers, > > uwe

You know what, that really makes all the hard work, effort and personal financial investment myself and the other site admins have put into RSC feel really worthwhile. Maybe we should just forget about trying to get the site back online and pull the plug on the forum and websites we host for the community. Thanks once again for your support. Phil Lee RSC Administrator. http://www.rscnet.org

I've always found the search function quite useful when looking for stuff > I know it's a labour of love for the guys who put it together and I > appreciate the effort and intent but I can never find what I'm looking > for in there, but I can find 50 different varieities of smilies... >

Phil Lee wrote: >>Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet > that really makes all the hard work, effort and personal > financial investment myself and the other site admins have put into RSC feel > really worthwhile. > Thanks once again for your support. Eeeeasy there now Tiger.... Relax, it's still appreciated. Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux sox nowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC admins) and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing after months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know. But the downtime right now kind of reeks like hacker attack or major server error. What happened? Regards, Rudy ---------- GPLRank: -24

Surely he was joking.

I STILL MISS MY RSC!!!! Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured annually by their clothing.

sehr witzisch "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet > instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) > > Cheers, > > uwe >

sehr witzisch they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet

Ruud said: >>Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux soxnowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC admins) and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing after months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know. In fact, I can't believe my eyes. Newsgroups better than the RSC forum? If that was said in earnest, I'm just about speechless. The sharing of ideas and files - even if some disappear occasionally - and the community spirit is far better than what I find here. At least from my perspective. How many car or track upgrades are posted here? Or have I missed something? Mind you I don't come here often, but this reminds me of why. And speed? Until just a few days ago, it took many hours for posts to appear. There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful death or insult people it's a free for all. Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is. Bob Simpson

"Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:N_3ud.908$[email hidden]...

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> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet > > instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > uwe > > > You know what, that really makes all the hard work, effort and personal > financial investment myself and the other site admins have put into RSC

feel > really worthwhile. Maybe we should just forget about trying to get thesite

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> back online and pull the plug on the forum and websites we host for the > community. > > Thanks once again for your support. > > Phil Lee > RSC Administrator. > http://www.rscnet.org

Don't let the people who prefer usenet get you down. You run a fine site and I, for one, would miss it terribly. Elrikk PS. Usenet is OK though. (when the wacko's leave it alone.) ;o)

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> Ruud said: > >>Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux sox > nowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC > admins) > and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing > after > months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know. > > > In fact, I can't believe my eyes. Newsgroups better than the RSC > forum? If that was said in earnest, I'm just about speechless. The > sharing of ideas and files - even if some disappear occasionally - and > the community spirit is far better than what I find here. At least > from my perspective. How many car or track upgrades are posted here? > Or have I missed something? Mind you I don't come here often, but this > reminds me of why. And speed? Until just a few days ago, it took many > hours for posts to appear. > > There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful > death or insult people it's a free for all. > Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is. > > Bob Simpson

Moderators are a double-edged sword, and have ruined many forum sites. There's pros and cons to both formats. >

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>From: "Phil Lee" [email hidden] >Date: 12/9/2004 4:05 P.M. Central Standard Time >Message-id: <N_3ud.908$[email hidden]> > >"Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... > >> >> Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet >> instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> uwe > > >You know what, that really makes all the hard work, effort and personal >financial investment myself and the other site admins have put into RSC feel >really worthwhile. Maybe we should just forget about trying to get the site >back online and pull the plug on the forum and websites we host for the >community. > >Thanks once again for your support. > >Phil Lee >RSC Administrator. >http://www.rscnet.org >

I love your site! Hope you get it back up soon! Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

"Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:N_3ud.908$[email hidden]...

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> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet > > instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > uwe > > > You know what, that really makes all the hard work, effort and personal > financial investment myself and the other site admins have put into RSC

feel > really worthwhile. Maybe we should just forget about trying to get thesite

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> back online and pull the plug on the forum and websites we host for the > community. > > Thanks once again for your support. > > Phil Lee > RSC Administrator. > http://www.rscnet.org

I've posted in the past that I really do appreciate the work put into, and content, of RSC, but it is *always* hit and miss when it comes to connection speed. I dread using it most of the time. R.a.s is always fast and everything is right in front of me. -- David G Fisher

Like a fan going thru NASCAR withdrawls in the off season who can't wait for February.... Sounds familiar.... :) RindaLynn "TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I STILL MISS MY RSC!!!! > > > > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > **** > Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured > annually by their clothing. >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (mcewena) wrote: > but I can find 50 different varieities of smilies.. :-) And no picture sigs on newsgroups, thankfully. No moderation either, which can be problematic sometimes, but it also means less gag-worthy c*ck-sucking, so it's a fair swap. Newsgroups are a very efficient way to communicate IMO. I can download all new messages while doing something else, then filter and speed read quickly and easily. Searches via Google Groups are similarly painless if you're careful how you phrase your search. I just wish there was a similarly quick and painless way of searching (multiple) forums, and -- even better -- a way of downloading new (text only) messages for "offline" sorting & reading. I'd pay for something that could manage that trick. Whether most users would pay to access most forums is a different matter. It's easy to appreciate something when it's free. Still, you have to hand it to the guys who keep many useful websites running; they do a great job even if I rarely use them. Andrew McP

Andrew MacPherson wrote: ... > Whether most users would pay to access most forums is a different matter. > It's easy to appreciate something when it's free. Still, you have to hand > it to the guys who keep many useful websites running; they do a great job > even if I rarely use them. Interesting, though, that when RSC is down it doesn't take more than a few minutes for someone to come here and holler. There must be a few people finding it useful ;) Achim

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Joachim Trensz) wrote: > Interesting, though, that when RSC is down it doesn't take more than a > few minutes for someone to come here and holler I find it reassuring that even though this group isn't anywhere near as busy as it used to be, many people still seem to use it as a "hub" for their sim news & chat. Old fashioned it may be for some, but reliability has its advantages. A forum can go down or die if a single server falls over somewhere. Newsgroups are like internet cockroaches... primitive, but almost impossible to get rid of :-) Andrew McP

Andrew MacPherson wrote: ... > Newsgroups are like internet cockroaches... primitive, but > almost impossible to get rid of :-) That statement deserves to become a classic :) Achim

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:05:33 GMT, Phil Lee wrote: > "Uwe Schï¿œrkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Thanks once again for your support. > > Phil Lee ach c'mon phil, t'was a joke! I should have put more smileys into the post I guess. Sorry if anyone felt offended. All the best & thanks for RSC, mate. Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On 9 Dec 2004 16:21:14 -0800, [email hidden] wrote: > There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful > death or insult people it's a free for all. > Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is. > See my other post, I was making a joke. Sorry if anybody felt offended, truly sorry. All the best, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:09:55 +0100, Joachim Trensz wrote: > Interesting, though, that when RSC is down it doesn't take more than a few > minutes for someone to come here and holler. There must be a few people finding > it useful ;) > in spite of my earlier tongue-in-cheek, humorous remark and my preference for RAS I find RSC quite useful. Folks were going out of their way trying to help me over there with the GTR online crashes when I whined about them. I guess it's more of a generation thing than anything else. Cheers & all the best, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:10:23 +0100, Joachim Trensz wrote:

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> Andrew MacPherson wrote: > ... >> Newsgroups are like internet cockroaches... primitive, but >> almost impossible to get rid of :-) > > That statement deserves to become a classic :) > > Achim

nice one Andrew! ;-) Cheers uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Andrew MacPherson wrote: ... > Newsgroups are like internet cockroaches... primitive, but almost impossible to get rid of :-) That statement deserves to become a classic :) Achim ------------------------------- I wonder if cockroaches will be posting to newsgroups after the apocalypse? Some might say they are already, witness the homosexual thread. :-) ZZ -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League oAo OaO MARA TransAm GT Rank +79.568 GPL Rank + 14.768 MoGPL Rank + 308.654 N2003 Rank -18.8060 ---------------- Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

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> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:09:55 +0100, Joachim Trensz wrote: > >>Interesting, though, that when RSC is down it doesn't take more than a few >>minutes for someone to come here and holler. There must be a few people finding >>it useful ;) >> > > > in spite of my earlier tongue-in-cheek, humorous remark and my > preference for RAS I find RSC quite useful. Folks were going out of > their way trying to help me over there with the GTR online crashes > when I whined about them. I guess it's more of a generation thing than > anything else. > > Cheers & all the best, > > uwe

I know that you were joking. Never had any doubts about it :) Achim

> nice one Andrew! ;-) a.h.b-o-u ;-)

This Usenet NG and RSC compliment each other very well and each has its own strengths and weaknesses. Everyone appreciates what you guys have done and are doing for this community Phil. Thanks for all of RSC's efforts! Mitch "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:N_3ud.908$4b2.272@newsfe2->

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> > You know what, that really makes all the hard work, effort and personal > financial investment myself and the other site admins have put into RSC > feel really worthwhile. Maybe we should just forget about trying to get > the site back online and pull the plug on the forum and websites we host > for the community. > > Thanks once again for your support. > > Phil Lee > RSC Administrator. > http://www.rscnet.org > >

Actually Uwe, I was 99.99% certain that you were joking but some others indicated that Newsgroups were more useful than Forums. There's no question that there's a use for each and limitations in each and I have my own preference (forums) of course. Maybe I have no sense of humour, but it seems to me that there are more insults tossed around in the newsgroups owing to the fact that at least this one isn't moderated (AFAIK). Anyway many of us and I in particular really miss my regular fix of RSC and hope that they're back up soon.

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> >Yep, they found out that web forums suck and recommend using usenet > >instead. The five-year scientific trial has now officially ended. ;-) > > oooh somehow I think that won't go unchallenged ;) > > Couldn't agree more. btw. > > I know it's a labour of love for the guys who put it together and I > appreciate the effort and intent but I can never find what I'm looking > for in there, but I can find 50 different varieities of smilies... >

Funny how I was just thinking about this the other day! I've heard people refer to ras as a "dinosaur" etc and always wondered why. It will always be here - never to be extinct. Problem with RSC is that it's become as big as bananas and stuff is just too hard to find. Though maybe that could be fixed with better indexing.

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> > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ruud said: > > >>Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux sox > > nowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC > > admins) > > and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing > > after > > months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know. > > > > > > In fact, I can't believe my eyes. Newsgroups better than the RSC > > forum? If that was said in earnest, I'm just about speechless. The > > sharing of ideas and files - even if some disappear occasionally - and > > the community spirit is far better than what I find here. At least > > from my perspective. How many car or track upgrades are posted here? > > Or have I missed something? Mind you I don't come here often, but this > > reminds me of why. And speed? Until just a few days ago, it took many > > hours for posts to appear. > > > > There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful > > death or insult people it's a free for all. > > Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is. > > > > Bob Simpson > > > Moderators are a double-edged sword, and have ruined many forum sites. > There's pros and cons to both formats. >

Took the words right out of my mouth. There's a lot of places moderated by old women and you need to conduct yourself like an old woman to survive them - killing yourself to live. Moderated forums are good places to send the children, perhaps, but the grown-ups outa be around here - nothing like the wild! :)

On 10 Dec 2004 09:18:18 -0800, [email hidden] wrote: > Actually Uwe, I was 99.99% certain that you were joking but some others > indicated that Newsgroups were more useful than Forums. There's no Hi lesandbob, this is the last time I am going to say sorry for a humorous post I made in a good mood. sorry ;-) Let's hope RSC will be back up soon, I do as much as the next guy. uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

>Interesting, though, that when RSC is down it doesn't take >more thana few >minutes for someone to come here and holler. There must >be a fewpeople finding >it useful ;) That works both ways ;)

>This Usenet NG and RSC compliment each other very well and each hasits own >strengths and weaknesses. Agreed. I'm sorry if my statement of preference was taken as some sort of denigration of the effort that the RSCers put into their site. However It is possible to be appreciative and frustrated at the same time. For simple text explanations of situations and follow up comments/conversations I personally find the threaded text format of most newsgroup viewers such as outlook easier to follow then any web based forum (rsc's threaded layout helped some). I find it fairly easy to ignore entire ng threads about Eldreds weight problems or GWB's manipulation of the weather etc.. and because of the text nature of the ng each actually significant post generally isn't greeted with 14 to 140 posts of rolling/dancing/bouncing smilies saying nothing more then "thank you" or "me too", or "I love you guys" like (all?) webforums generally are. Invariably 30 posts down the smiley chain is a correction/addition to the original information that gets lost in the dross (and generates more smilies). Not being able to post pictures/files is of course a major drawback of ngs. RSC frustrates me sometimes in particular because I know the answer I'm looking for is likely in there somewhere but I can't seem to formulate a query that can find it first time(s), and I invariably wait only 179 seconds before I try my second attempt. I understand the resource limitations behind minimum query lengths and delays between queries but that's of course a direct result of setting up an independent volunteer forum and then loading it full of useful info, you're a victim of your own success. The distributed nature of ngs and the corporate backing behind google's archives makes searching faster (at least for me). The other frustration that is entirely beyond the control of the RSC guys is that even though the league is called RAScar half the members post schedule/venue/setup info here and the other half post it in the rsc forum meaning I had to look both places to get the complete picture ;) Art.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > Not being able to post pictures/files is of course a major drawback of > ngs. > alt.binaries.simulators.autos is still there, last I checked (5 mins ago). It has been abandoned by those Milliken(? Alldata?) warez'rs that completely flooded the group with the auto repair car data disks that cost thousands of dollars for honest shops to buy. I don't know why it isn't used more often. Hell, I'll use it now to post my absolutely-most-positively favorite video ever. A 'vette blasting around Road Atlanta with no commentary, just pure unfiltered incar sound. It is aural BLISS. Turn it up. Way up. MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

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> > alt.binaries.simulators.autos is still there, last I checked (5 mins > ago). It has been abandoned by those Milliken(? Alldata?) warez'rs that > completely flooded the group with the auto repair car data disks that > cost thousands of dollars for honest shops to buy. > > I don't know why it isn't used more often. >

(snip) alt.bin.sim.autos isn't much use if you're on one of the many ISP'ds that don't carry the binary groups which are notorious storage hogs (to say nothing of the complications of all the pron :) ) As others have mentioned both newsgroups and web forums have their virtues and drawbacks. I use and appreciate both forms DavErb

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> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:05:33 GMT, Phil Lee wrote: > >>"Uwe Schï¿œrkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>Thanks once again for your support. >> >>Phil Lee > > > ach c'mon phil, t'was a joke! I should have put more smileys into the > post I guess. Sorry if anyone felt offended. > > All the best & thanks for RSC, mate. > > Uwe > > >

You are the 2nd stupidest person here besides Eldred

"buster" wrote... >> <snip> > You are the 2nd stupidest person here besides Eldred 2nd slowest, neither of them are any more stupid than you and I. Jan. <vwg> =---

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> > "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Aj6ud.15$[email hidden]... > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Ruud said: > > > >>Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux sox > > > nowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC > > > admins) > > > and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing > > > after > > > months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know. > > > > > > > > > In fact, I can't believe my eyes. Newsgroups better than the RSC > > > forum? If that was said in earnest, I'm just about speechless. The > > > sharing of ideas and files - even if some disappear occasionally - and > > > the community spirit is far better than what I find here. At least > > > from my perspective. How many car or track upgrades are posted here? > > > Or have I missed something? Mind you I don't come here often, but

this > > > reminds me of why. And speed? Until just a few days ago, it tookmany

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> > > hours for posts to appear. > > > > > > There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful > > > death or insult people it's a free for all. > > > Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is. > > > > > > Bob Simpson > > > > > > Moderators are a double-edged sword, and have ruined many forum

sites. > > There's pros and cons to both formats. > > > > Took the words right out of my mouth. There's a lot of placesmoderated > by old women and you need to conduct yourself like an old woman to survive > them - killing yourself to live. Moderated forums are good places to send > the children, perhaps, but the grown-ups outa be around here - nothinglike > the wild! :) Yep. Problem is, most moderated forums end up having some Napoleonic complex minded clown being the moderator(s). Censorship is another word for it. > >

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> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:05:33 GMT, Phil Lee wrote: >> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> Thanks once again for your support. >> >> Phil Lee > > ach c'mon phil, t'was a joke! I should have put more smileys into the > post I guess. Sorry if anyone felt offended. > > All the best & thanks for RSC, mate. > > Uwe > > > > -- > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

He needs an animated " :wink: " before he figures it out. :) <- that's an old-fashioned smiley btw -- empty sig

JP wrote: > > > Yep. Problem is, most moderated forums end up having some Napoleonic > complex minded clown being the moderator(s). Censorship is another word for > it. Hey, just because I lock a few threads and delete a few posts on The Pits forums every now and then...... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > JP wrote: > > > > > > Yep. Problem is, most moderated forums end up having some Napoleonic > > complex minded clown being the moderator(s). Censorship is another wordfor > > it. > > Hey, just because I lock a few threads and delete a few posts on The > Pits forums every now and then...... > LOL - I don't remember anyone mentioning the Pits Goy?