F12000 frame rate

I am having a hard time figuring out why everyone is having such a shit fit about the F1 2000 frame rate. I have the retail version and I've run it on a PII 400 laptop with a ATI 8MB cheapo graphics card and on my home PIII machine with a GeForce card. On both machines once the detail is properly configured, the frame rate is perfectly acceptable. Both have a better frame rate than GPL. Granted, in a race with 22 cars, the frame rate slows up at the start, but it's the same for every other racing sim I own. Now, one thing I will mention is that I also tested the warez (shock horror) version and the frame rate SUCKED. This newsgroup is now littered with ways to improve the frame rate. I tried these on my home machine and they all did improve the frame rate a little. However, out of the box the frame rate is, in my opinon, more than acceptable. For comparison, when GP2 came out I had a kick -ass machine for the time. However, I had to turn the detail way down to get it to run. Not to mention GPL, which still has problems on many of today's fastest machines!!!! Now if ISI would fix the AI we'd have a winner.... Just my 2 cents... ...Colin

I agree, I have no problems with the frame rate on my Athlon 500 with Voodoo 3000 with texture set to medium. Funnily enough, I don't really have the problems with the AI that others have. One of my main criticisms of other modern sims was that very few cars crashed or blew up etc. In (the real) F1 GPs it is pretty common for only half the cars (or less) to finish the race F12K is one of the first to model this reasonably accurately. I don't have the AI cars crashing into me, and I can keep up with them on the straight. My biggest problem is the FF bug, i.e. with FF switched on any collision in the game causes a crash back to the desktop. This surely must be the first thing they should fix. Iain Colin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8btcm9$7o0$[email hidden]... > I am having a hard time figuring out why everyone is having such a shitfit > about the F1 2000 frame rate. > I have the retail version and I've run it on a PII 400 laptop with a ATI8MB > cheapo graphics card and on my home PIII machine with a GeForce card. > On both machines once the detail is properly configured, the frame rate is > perfectly acceptable. Both have a better frame rate than GPL. Granted,in > a race with 22 cars, the frame rate slows up at the start, but it's thesame > for every other racing sim I own. > Now, one thing I will mention is that I also tested the warez (shockhorror) > version and the frame rate SUCKED. > This newsgroup is now littered with ways to improve the frame rate. Itried > these on my home machine and they all did improve the frame rate a little. > However, out of the box the frame rate is, in my opinon, more than > acceptable. > > For comparison, when GP2 came out I had a kick -ass machine for the time. > However, I had to turn the detail way down to get it to run. Not tomention

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> GPL, which still has problems on many of today's fastest machines!!!! > > Now if ISI would fix the AI we'd have a winner.... > > Just my 2 cents... > ...Colin > >

Iain, I had the same experience, but it's solved now. I recall you have a Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel too eh? Go back to the good old original drivers that shipped with the wheel and gone are your problems with crashing back to the desktop! :) My drivers are from 7-9-99 and work perfectly. The Dijk Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws 5NrE4.8427$[email hidden]... > I agree, I have no problems with the frame rate on my Athlon 500 withVoodoo > 3000 with texture set to medium. > Funnily enough, I don't really have the problems with the AI that others > have. One of my main criticisms of other modern sims was that very fewcars > crashed or blew up etc. > In (the real) F1 GPs it is pretty common for only half the cars (or less)to > finish the race > F12K is one of the first to model this reasonably accurately. > I don't have the AI cars crashing into me, and I can keep up with them on > the straight. > My biggest problem is the FF bug, i.e. with FF switched on any collisionin

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> the game causes a crash back to the desktop. This surely must be the first > thing they should fix. > Iain > > Colin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8btcm9$7o0$[email hidden]... > > I am having a hard time figuring out why everyone is having such a shit > fit > > about the F1 2000 frame rate. > > I have the retail version and I've run it on a PII 400 laptop with a ATI > 8MB > > cheapo graphics card and on my home PIII machine with a GeForce card. > > On both machines once the detail is properly configured, the frame rate

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> > perfectly acceptable. Both have a better frame rate than GPL. Granted, > in > > a race with 22 cars, the frame rate slows up at the start, but it's the > same > > for every other racing sim I own. > > Now, one thing I will mention is that I also tested the warez (shock > horror) > > version and the frame rate SUCKED. > > This newsgroup is now littered with ways to improve the frame rate. I > tried > > these on my home machine and they all did improve the frame rate a

little. > > However, out of the box the frame rate is, in my opinon, more than > > acceptable. > > > > For comparison, when GP2 came out I had a kick -ass machine for thetime.

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> > However, I had to turn the detail way down to get it to run. Not to > mention > > GPL, which still has problems on many of today's fastest machines!!!! > > > > Now if ISI would fix the AI we'd have a winner.... > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > ...Colin > > > > > >

I agree, I have only a low end P11 with a v3 2000 and the graphics are just about acceptable its the A1 that is definately the big flaw here. The more I play the game the more I like it, just hope the A1 can be brought up to scratch. Adrian. Colin wrote in message <8btcm9$7o0$[email hidden]>... >I am having a hard time figuring out why everyone is having such a shit fit >about the F1 2000 frame rate. >I have the retail version and I've run it on a PII 400 laptop with a ATI8MB >cheapo graphics card and on my home PIII machine with a GeForce card. >On both machines once the detail is properly configured, the frame rate is >perfectly acceptable. Both have a better frame rate than GPL. Granted, in >a race with 22 cars, the frame rate slows up at the start, but it's thesame >for every other racing sim I own. >Now, one thing I will mention is that I also tested the warez (shockhorror) >version and the frame rate SUCKED. >This newsgroup is now littered with ways to improve the frame rate. Itried >these on my home machine and they all did improve the frame rate a little. >However, out of the box the frame rate is, in my opinon, more than >acceptable. > >For comparison, when GP2 came out I had a kick -ass machine for the time. >However, I had to turn the detail way down to get it to run. Not tomention

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>GPL, which still has problems on many of today's fastest machines!!!! > >Now if ISI would fix the AI we'd have a winner.... > >Just my 2 cents... >...Colin > >

After an Initial Shock of having my Nice New Athlon700/voodoo3500 Game Annihalator made instantly obsolete ! I turned down the graphics and after a few hours of trial and error Tweaking. consider this game has some potential to be a good game. BUT! needs some serious work to be done in the Frame rate department. I think a real look at a OpenGL Patch, that alone is what saved GPL and it may save F12000. but its not likely that they will do that they are pushing d3d concept down our throats whether the Frame rate bites it or not. Hopefully the next generation of video Cards will cope better with this sim. Robocat Colin wrote in message <8btcm9$7o0$[email hidden]>... >I am having a hard time figuring out why everyone is having such a shit fit >about the F1 2000 frame rate. >I have the retail version and I've run it on a PII 400 laptop with a ATI8MB >cheapo graphics card and on my home PIII machine with a GeForce card. >On both machines once the detail is properly configured, the frame rate is >perfectly acceptable. Both have a better frame rate than GPL. Granted, in >a race with 22 cars, the frame rate slows up at the start, but it's thesame >for every other racing sim I own. >Now, one thing I will mention is that I also tested the warez (shockhorror) >version and the frame rate SUCKED. >This newsgroup is now littered with ways to improve the frame rate. Itried >these on my home machine and they all did improve the frame rate a little. >However, out of the box the frame rate is, in my opinon, more than >acceptable. > >For comparison, when GP2 came out I had a kick -ass machine for the time. >However, I had to turn the detail way down to get it to run. Not tomention

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>GPL, which still has problems on many of today's fastest machines!!!! > >Now if ISI would fix the AI we'd have a winner.... > >Just my 2 cents... >...Colin > >

Well done, it works! Replace the new Ferrari drivers with the old ones, and the crashing to desktop stops and I have FF! Iain The Dijk <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%guE4.6407$[email hidden]...

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> Iain, > > I had the same experience, but it's solved now. I recall you have a > Guillemot Ferrari FF wheel too eh? > > Go back to the good old original drivers that shipped with the wheel and > gone are your problems with crashing back to the desktop! :) > > My drivers are from 7-9-99 and work perfectly. > > The Dijk > > Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > 5NrE4.8427$[email hidden]... > > I agree, I have no problems with the frame rate on my Athlon 500 with > Voodoo > > 3000 with texture set to medium. > > Funnily enough, I don't really have the problems with the AI that others > > have. One of my main criticisms of other modern sims was that very few > cars > > crashed or blew up etc. > > In (the real) F1 GPs it is pretty common for only half the cars (or

less) > to > > finish the race > > F12K is one of the first to model this reasonably accurately. > > I don't have the AI cars crashing into me, and I can keep up with themon > > the straight. > > My biggest problem is the FF bug, i.e. with FF switched on any collision > in > > the game causes a crash back to the desktop. This surely must be thefirst > > thing they should fix. > > Iain > > > > Colin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8btcm9$7o0$[email hidden]... > > > I am having a hard time figuring out why everyone is having such ashit > > fit > > > about the F1 2000 frame rate. > > > I have the retail version and I've run it on a PII 400 laptop with aATI > > 8MB > > > cheapo graphics card and on my home PIII machine with a GeForce card. > > > On both machines once the detail is properly configured, the framerate > is > > > perfectly acceptable. Both have a better frame rate than GPL.Granted, > > in > > > a race with 22 cars, the frame rate slows up at the start, but it'sthe

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> > same > > > for every other racing sim I own. > > > Now, one thing I will mention is that I also tested the warez (shock > > horror) > > > version and the frame rate SUCKED. > > > This newsgroup is now littered with ways to improve the frame rate. I > > tried > > > these on my home machine and they all did improve the frame rate a > little. > > > However, out of the box the frame rate is, in my opinon, more than > > > acceptable. > > > > > > For comparison, when GP2 came out I had a kick -ass machine for the > time. > > > However, I had to turn the detail way down to get it to run. Not to > > mention > > > GPL, which still has problems on many of today's fastest machines!!!! > > > > > > Now if ISI would fix the AI we'd have a winner.... > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > ...Colin > > > > > > > > > > > >

Iain Mackenzie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5NrE4.8427$[email hidden]... > My biggest problem is the FF bug, i.e. with FF switched on any collisionin > the game causes a crash back to the desktop. This surely must be the first > thing they should fix. This doesn't happen to me. In fact the only thing about the FF in F1 2000 that I don't like is that it sucks :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

I Have same proplem with ACT Labs wheel, but MS FF wheel works great. -Jani Kankaanp��- > > My biggest problem is the FF bug, i.e. with FF switched on any collision > in > > the game causes a crash back to the desktop. This surely must be thefirst

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> > thing they should fix. > > This doesn't happen to me. In fact the only thing about the FF in > F1 2000 that I don't like is that it sucks :-) > > > -- > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > >