GPL-- is it me or is Sears a superb track?

Pushing hard through that wriggly section (technical term :-) has to be one of the best GPL experiences I've had so far. I thought Laguna and Mid Ohio would give me the biggest kicks but, probably because of the lower/slower quality graphics in LS/MO, so far it's IMS and Sears that have given me most bang for my converter buck. Andrew McP

No doubt the esses at Sears Point give new definition to weight transfer<g>, but if you haven't tried the enhanced version of Long Beach or Mid Ohio you are really missing out. See Alison's sight for details. They look almost as good as the original GPL tracks. -- don [|]-(_)-[|] Andrew MacPherson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Pushing hard through that wriggly section (technical term :-) has to be > one of the best GPL experiences I've had so far. I thought Laguna and Mid > Ohio would give me the biggest kicks but, probably because of the > lower/slower quality graphics in LS/MO, so far it's IMS and Sears that > have given me most bang for my converter buck. > > Andrew McP

I agree 100%!! IMS and the New Sears, Graphically, are fantastic compared to all the other tracks. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Mike Barlow Check out the ZGN http://bovineracing.com/zgnews.htm (devoted to everything GPL) BTW: they are looking for articles to post! Be nice to see some driver interviewers ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Andrew MacPherson wrote in message ... > >Pushing hard through that wriggly section (technical term :-) has to be >one of the best GPL experiences I've had so far. I thought Laguna and Mid >Ohio would give me the biggest kicks but, probably because of the >lower/slower quality graphics in LS/MO, so far it's IMS and Sears that >have given me most bang for my converter buck. > >Andrew McP

Would that be the old layout or the Sears 98 layout? Andre On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:22 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote:

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> >Pushing hard through that wriggly section (technical term :-) has to be >one of the best GPL experiences I've had so far. I thought Laguna and Mid >Ohio would give me the biggest kicks but, probably because of the >lower/slower quality graphics in LS/MO, so far it's IMS and Sears that >have given me most bang for my converter buck. > >Andrew McP

> AI weaving It is a bit of a pain, but at least it's predictable. T1 looks like two or three little turns (which is what confuses the AI I suspect) but you can treat it as one long turn. Andrew McP

> enhanced version of Long Beach or Mid Ohio I did the enhanced gfx thing, but I think LS and MO need the rendition version which I don't have. Must check Alison's page in case my memory's failing me. Andrew McP... 2 copies of ICR2, neither the right one :-)

98. Didn't realise the N2 version was different. I like the N3 graphics anyway so whatever happens I'll probably stick with 98. Andrew McP

Oh yes....I forgot N2! Sorry. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > There are 2 Sears tracks for the converter Bruce, one with the old > layout and one with the layout from 98. I just wondered which version > he was talking about. > I prefer the old layout by the way, beautiful track. > > Andre > > On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:59:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Ninety-eight, Andre. It states that on the "cover". >

There are 2 Sears tracks for the converter Bruce, one with the old layout and one with the layout from 98. I just wondered which version he was talking about. I prefer the old layout by the way, beautiful track. Andre On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:59:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ninety-eight, Andre. It states that on the "cover".

My only problem with GPL Sears is the AI weaving all over place through turn one. It's actually a very quick turn and this bizarre AI behaviour makes it quite tricky. Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

I am drooling over what could be a brilliant (but probably an economic disaster!!) historical Indy sim that is set in 1964/65/66.....when the roadsters and the rear-engined cars mixed it. (Sigh!) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Mike Barlow <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Cf6F4.12262$[email hidden]... > I agree 100%!! IMS and the New Sears, Graphically, are fantastic > compared to all the other tracks. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------------------------------- > Mike Barlow > Check out the ZGN http://bovineracing.com/zgnews.htm > (devoted to everything GPL) > BTW: they are looking for articles to post! Be nice to see some driver > interviewers ;-) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------------------------------------- > Andrew MacPherson wrote in message ... > > > >Pushing hard through that wriggly section (technical term :-) has to be > >one of the best GPL experiences I've had so far. I thought Laguna and Mid > >Ohio would give me the biggest kicks but, probably because of the > >lower/slower quality graphics in LS/MO, so far it's IMS and Sears that > >have given me most bang for my converter buck. > > > >Andrew McP > >

Ninety-eight, Andre. It states that on the "cover". -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Would that be the old layout or the Sears 98 layout? > > Andre > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:22 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew > MacPherson) wrote: > > > > >Pushing hard through that wriggly section (technical term :-) has to be > >one of the best GPL experiences I've had so far. I thought Laguna and Mid > >Ohio would give me the biggest kicks but, probably because of the > >lower/slower quality graphics in LS/MO, so far it's IMS and Sears that > >have given me most bang for my converter buck. > > > >Andrew McP >

It's a shame the N2 version wasn't as good graphically and the 98 track. I do love that carousel<sp>. Andrew MacPherson wrote in message ... >98. Didn't realise the N2 version was different. I like the N3 graphics >anyway so whatever happens I'll probably stick with 98. > >Andrew McP

Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > Oh yes....I forgot N2! Sorry. Well, you shouldn't have, the "old" Sears is one of my fav tracks, it's one of those that gives me the most troubles in the TPTCC, but I still like it a lot :-) The "new" one sucks Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > Oh yes....I forgot N2! Sorry. > > Well, you shouldn't have, the "old" Sears is one of my fav tracks, it's > one of those that gives me the most troubles in the TPTCC, but I still > like it a lot :-) > > The "new" one sucks > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy

fer once I agree with Uncle Goy. The new sears takes out the only two places I stood a chance of overtaking. With the straightend back dogleg I loose my only two good areas and EXPOSE my weaknesses which is the EXIT of the esses that turn into the last straight. dave henrie (ps, I have a track program from a CART race in Portland a few years ago. They include drawings that are aimed at Nascar that would take out all the curves from the front of the course to the backside and greatly widens the arc of the last turn, So they would be left with a giant Dover in Reverse) > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > I do agree, Uncle, that 1998 is not as challenging as the N2 version. Exactly, it's become too easy in a way, and very difficult to overtake on as Dave H points out in another post, the old one was really tricky to set up a car for, the only real challenge now is getting through the "chute" in one piece, and you set up your car for that corner and live it it as best you can, at least in N99/N3, haven't had a chance to try it in GPL yet though, real life issues are getting in the way of my sim racing these days, hate that :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Mike Barlow <[email hidden]> wrote in article <Cf6F4.12262$[email hidden]>... > I agree 100%!! IMS and the New Sears, Graphically, are fantastic > compared to all the other tracks. > Hi Mike, Not only are the above two tracks good, both graphically and to race on, but IMO, most of the converted tracks look as good as the GPL tracks.. Heartland Park, especially in F3 is great, Riverside looks better than SearsPoint IMO, then the rendition & 3d enhanced tracks from ICR2 look and perform great as well. IMO, the ovals of Milwaukee and Gateway, both look and perform better for on-line racing than does IMS and not to mention how well the Mesa Marin and Thompson ovals play in F3. Ontario and Pocono both look fantastic and play the same. :) Cheers, Ron

I do agree, Uncle, that 1998 is not as challenging as the N2 version. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > Oh yes....I forgot N2! Sorry. > > Well, you shouldn't have, the "old" Sears is one of my fav tracks, it's > one of those that gives me the most troubles in the TPTCC, but I still > like it a lot :-) > > The "new" one sucks > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Real life issues have a nasty habit of doing that, Goy, unfortunately. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > haven't had a chance to try > it in GPL yet though, real life issues are getting in the way of my sim > racing these days, hate that :-) > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Having never driven any course and only seen Portland, I can't attest for much, but try looking at the AMA Superbike demo. Lots of dloads later, you'll see a pretty good Mid Ohio. dave henrie John Bradley wrote:

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > > > > enhanced version of Long Beach or Mid Ohio > > I've got the enhanced versions of both, and while they look pleasant > enough, they're annoyingly *wrong*. I've driven both tracks in real > life, and the ICR2 versions have major elevation errors. > > The Laguna in SCGT is much closer to how the track is really laid out. > Unfortunately, there is no acceptable MidOhio in any sim that I know of. > (Never tried Microsoft's CART sim.) > > So, if Dave's bored, perhaps he'll do a new versions of these two tracks > as an encore! :) > > --John Bradley