F1 2000 and MSFF

I bought F1 2000 last friday, and I must say that apart from the framerate issue it is a blast. My problem however is to get my MSFF going. I have full FF-force on and centering force off. My problem is that the wheel has very litte feedback when i'm on the race surface, and I only feel the kerbs. My questions are: - Is the FF so bad implemented that there are no forces from the front wheels ? - Is it powersteering, since the wheel are very light at standstill too ? - What to do to get a less light wheel ? (obviously :) Thanks for any input regarding this matter. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

I am having the exact same problem with my Guillemot wheel... in f12k the wheel is extremly light to operate. The feel can be adjusted with the speed sensitivity slider in the controller setup within f12k, however, this makes the wheel extremly sensitive. FF is extreem poorly implemented in F12k. After racing f12k for a few days I decided to fire up GPL once again... damn, My arms where exhausted after 10 laps of using arm, legs and everything else to keep the Lotus on the track :)) -- Sjon (who is starting to get tired of F12k more and more because of these 'fuck ups') "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I bought F1 2000 last friday, and I must say that apart from the framerate > issue it is a blast. > > My problem however is to get my MSFF going. I have full FF-force on and > centering force off. My problem is that the wheel has very litte feedback > when i'm on the race surface, and I only feel the kerbs. > > My questions are: > - Is the FF so bad implemented that there are no forces from the front

wheels ?

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> - Is it powersteering, since the wheel are very light at standstill too ? > - What to do to get a less light wheel ? (obviously :) > > Thanks for any input regarding this matter. > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying >

>..of using arm, legs and everything else ... ARMS!!

ARMS!!

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > GPL is the best implementation of FF, but F12K FF still adds something good > to the experience. Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wall at 300 kph? Excuse me, have I missed something? -lark-

GPL is the best implementation of FF, but F12K FF still adds something good to the experience. Iain Sjon Stigter <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8c9sjh$cks$[email hidden]... > >..of using arm, legs and everything else ... > > ARMS!! > >

Can you pass along your force feedback configuration for GPL for the MS Wheel. I can find configs for other brands, but none for MSFF. Thanks. -- David Schuetz On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Kankkis wrote: > Yes GPL has great, very great MS FF effects, not so good with ACT LABS but > MS FF is great. > F12000 has kerbs effects only, no sliding effects like GPL has. > > -Jani Kankaanpää- > > "Joona Vainio" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestissä > news:[email hidden]... > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > > > Yep! > > > > > > Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wall > at > > > > 300 kph? > > > > > > > > Excuse me, have I missed something? > > > > No, I am serious. I haven't noticed any other effects. Other than the > > centering of the FF wheel of course, which is not a game effect. > > > > So isn't my wheel working properly? > > > > -lark- > > > >

Yep! Iain Joona Vainio <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > GPL is the best implementation of FF, but F12K FF still adds somethinggood

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> > to the experience. > > Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wall at > 300 kph? > > Excuse me, have I missed something? > > -lark-

Iain Mackenzie wrote:

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> > Yep! > > Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wall at > > 300 kph? > > > > Excuse me, have I missed something?

No, I am serious. I haven't noticed any other effects. Other than the centering of the FF wheel of course, which is not a game effect. So isn't my wheel working properly? -lark-

Yes GPL has great, very great MS FF effects, not so good with ACT LABS but MS FF is great. F12000 has kerbs effects only, no sliding effects like GPL has. -Jani Kankaanp��- "Joona Vainio" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� news:[email hidden]... > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > Yep! > > > > Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wallat

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> > > 300 kph? > > > > > > Excuse me, have I missed something? > > No, I am serious. I haven't noticed any other effects. Other than the > centering of the FF wheel of course, which is not a game effect. > > So isn't my wheel working properly? > > -lark-

Kankkis wrote: Ah, so you mean I have missed something for not driving GPL with FF! :-) Allright. Probably I have. But I was talking about F1 2000 effects (or lack of them), and thought that "yes you have missed something" referred to F1 2000 as well. Amusing mistake. -lark-

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> Yes GPL has great, very great MS FF effects, not so good with ACT LABS but > MS FF is great. > F12000 has kerbs effects only, no sliding effects like GPL has. > > -Jani Kankaanp��- > > "Joona Vainio" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� > news:[email hidden]... > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > > > Yep! > > > > > > Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wall > at > > > > 300 kph? > > > > > > > > Excuse me, have I missed something? > > > > No, I am serious. I haven't noticed any other effects. Other than the > > centering of the FF wheel of course, which is not a game effect. > > > > So isn't my wheel working properly? > > > > -lark-

Joona Vainio <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Kankkis wrote: > > Ah, so you mean I have missed something for not driving GPL with FF! :-) > > Allright. Probably I have. But I was talking about F1 2000 effects (or > lack of them), and thought that "yes you have missed something" referred > to F1 2000 as well. > > Amusing mistake.

Hehe, I started this thread to find out if the FF in F1 2000 was anything more than kerb-shaking, but it is obviously not. A shame. For some weird reason GPL had to find its way into this thread too. I kind of didn't ask for something I already know ;)

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> > -lark- > > > Yes GPL has great, very great MS FF effects, not so good with ACT LABS but > > MS FF is great. > > F12000 has kerbs effects only, no sliding effects like GPL has. > > > > -Jani Kankaanp��- > > > > "Joona Vainio" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > > > > > > Yep! > > > > > > > > Like a slight rattle on kerbs and a faint nudge when you hit the wall > > at > > > > > 300 kph? > > > > > > > > > > Excuse me, have I missed something? > > > > > > No, I am serious. I haven't noticed any other effects. Other than the > > > centering of the FF wheel of course, which is not a game effect. > > > > > > So isn't my wheel working properly? > > > > > > -lark-

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