GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

This is something I've been meaning to clarify. When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? Glenn

Glenn, Essentially, it's done that way in GPL because that's the way it was done in 1967. Don't forget, this is in the days before electronic timing and scoring, and the whole thing was done manually by someone sitting on the pit counter with a stopwatch. When the driver crossed the S/F line, the person doing the timing would pass the lap time to the person manning the pitboard who would then dig into his box of numbers and put the appropriate time on the board. The driver would get the info next time by the pits. In that era, without electronic timing and pit-to-car radio communications the driver was always a lap behind in knowing what his lap times were. So, in effect, GPL is remaining true to the era. Ian Glenn Andressen <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>This is something I've been meaning to clarify. > >When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time >of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. > >It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like >it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? > >Glenn

On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:18:55 +1000, Glenn Andressen <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>This is something I've been meaning to clarify. > >When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time >of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. > >It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like >it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? > >Glenn

That's the way it is in real life. How fast do you think they can read the stopwatch, write it down, and tell the pit board guy and how fast can he write in chalk? .00001 tenths of a second? A driver always gets a board for the lap previous to the one he is just finishing now unless there is a spot on the track the crew can see about 20 seconds prior to the pit board location. In that case they may do their timing there.

if you take a look in the track.ini files, you'll see a line for the pit board. There you can edit it to show either the previous lap (default) or the lap you're on. I took a quick glance at it but haven't looked hard enough to say what to edit. -- Buford wrote in message ... >On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:18:55 +1000, Glenn Andressen ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>This is something I've been meaning to clarify. >> >>When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time >>of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. >> >>It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like >>it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? >> >>Glenn > > >That's the way it is in real life. How fast do you think they can read >the stopwatch, write it down, and tell the pit board guy and how fast >can he write in chalk? .00001 tenths of a second? A driver always gets >a board for the lap previous to the one he is just finishing now >unless there is a spot on the track the crew can see about 20 seconds >prior to the pit board location. In that case they may do their timing >there. > > > >

That's the way it was in real life then...Without all the nice inventions we have now... -NK

Ian <[email hidden]> wrote: : Glenn, : Essentially, it's done that way in GPL because that's the way it was : done in 1967. It's the way pit-boards are now too. The mechanics have to have time to put the numbers on the board. : Glenn Andressen <[email hidden]> wrote: :>This is something I've been meaning to clarify. :> :>When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time :>of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. :> :>It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like :>it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? :> :>Glenn -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Back then the times were recorded by hand, Glenn. Electronic scoring was years away. As the car crossed the line the time was recorded via stop-watch, usually by a team member, and then that info was applied to the pit board manually. Of course, by the time that task was finished the driver was well into the next lap! So when he came around to complete the lap the pit board would display his time/position for the preceeding lap. I believe that it is possible to change this in GPL but am not personally aware of how it's done. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Glenn Andressen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > This is something I've been meaning to clarify. > > When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time > of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. > > It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like > it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? > > Glenn

But we had "nice inventions" in 1967 too. Every era has its share of "nice inventions", NK :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- NanaKofi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That's the way it was in real life then...Without all the nice inventions we > have now... > > -NK

Glenn It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board by moving the little guy with your pit board. You can do this by editing the track.ini files, look for the line pit_board = , The first and second numbers determine where he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude). You have to place him further past the start/finish line than normal. The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend. So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great, I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it e-mail me and I'll send it to you Mark Glenn Andressen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> This is something I've been meaning to clarify. > > When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time > of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. > > It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like > it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? > > Glenn

Thanks for the responses! Glenn Mark Aisthorpe wrote:

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> > Glenn > It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board > by moving the little guy with your pit board. > > You can do this by editing the track.ini files, > look for the line pit_board = , > The first and second numbers determine where > he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude). > You have to place him further past the start/finish line than > normal. > > The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand > i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend. > So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great, > I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it > e-mail me and I'll send it to you > > Mark > > Glenn Andressen <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > This is something I've been meaning to clarify. > > > > When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time > > of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished. > > > > It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like > > it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what? > > > > Glenn

Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza? On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Glenn >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board >by moving the little guy with your pit board. > >You can do this by editing the track.ini files, >look for the line pit_board = , >The first and second numbers determine where >he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude). >You have to place him further past the start/finish line than >normal. > >The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand >i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend. > So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great, >I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it >e-mail me and I'll send it to you > >Mark >

Ok I've e-mailed the track.ini to one other person so far, but thinking about it I might as well just post it hear. At Monza, change the pit_board = to pit_board = 21.0 275.0 -100.0 100.0 Mark Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza? > > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Glenn > >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board > >by moving the little guy with your pit board.

45 degrees, 35 minutes north; 9 degrees, 15 minutes east, Andre. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza? > > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Glenn > >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board > >by moving the little guy with your pit board. > > > >You can do this by editing the track.ini files, > >look for the line pit_board = , > >The first and second numbers determine where > >he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude). > >You have to place him further past the start/finish line than > >normal. > > > >The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand > >i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend. > > So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great, > >I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it > >e-mail me and I'll send it to you > > > >Mark > > >

Works perfect Mark, thanks. After 2 years of 'lap time is from the former lap' I really had to get used to this, and allthough historically not accurate, I really like seeing the laptime from the last lap :) Does anyone have coordinates for the other tracks too? Would save me a lot of trial and error... Andre On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:37:22 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ok I've e-mailed the track.ini to one other person so far, >but thinking about it I might as well just post it hear. >At Monza, change the pit_board = to > pit_board = 21.0 275.0 -100.0 100.0 > >Mark > > >Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza? >> >> >> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Glenn >> >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board >> >by moving the little guy with your pit board. > > >

Nurburgring: pit_board = 11.0 1200.0 -100.0 100.0 It would be great if some kind, generous, intelligent soul figured out the coordinates for all the rest of the tracks. [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote in <[email hidden]>:

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>Works perfect Mark, thanks. After 2 years of 'lap time is from the >former lap' I really had to get used to this, and allthough >historically not accurate, I really like seeing the laptime from the >last lap :) > >Does anyone have coordinates for the other tracks too? >Would save me a lot of trial and error... > >Andre > >On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:37:22 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Ok I've e-mailed the track.ini to one other person so far, >>but thinking about it I might as well just post it hear. >>At Monza, change the pit_board = to >> pit_board = 21.0 275.0 -100.0 100.0 >> >>Mark >> >> >>Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe" >>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>> >Glenn >>> >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board >>> >by moving the little guy with your pit board. >> >> >> > >

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