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Re: NFS PU: Beating Dieter!

13 posts by 9 people · 05 Apr 2000 - 09 Apr 2000 17:41 UTC

Jim C. 05 Apr 2000#280504
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:16:11 -0400, Tim O. <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>I've come to a screeching halt in the career mode at the mission where >I have to beat Dieter before he can retire. >He just up and runs away from me. The only time I can even get in >front of him is to try to scrape along the guardrail at that first >hairpin, then try to hold him off. > >Is there a strategy to this? I'm using a manual trans, and right from >the start, Dieters 911 seems much faster than mine. >I've had to try a lot of the missions a few times before getting them, >but this one is tough for me!
This was definitely one of the more difficult missions. You just need to practice enough to be really smooth, consistent and fast through the whole course. Try to take late apexes and use the whole track exiting the corners. You have to get to the point where you can drive the entire race error free. If you spin or hit the wall you're toast; you might as well give up and start over, unless you manage to take Rolf with you :-) Jim C.
(unknown) 05 Apr 2000#280558
I think I used a similar method -- does that mean we're ready for NASCAR, Clif? <G> -- JB In article <eGMG4.366$%[email hidden]>, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I was lucky and got past it pretty fast (on my 2nd try), on the 1sttry he > beat me by about 4/100ths of a sec. > > What I did in the 2nd race was when he would get beside me, I wouldforce > him into something. In the 2nd race I forced him into the side of the > opening of the tunnel. That pretty much gave me a big enough lead towin :) > > Marc Goldstein <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:03MG4.21713$[email hidden]... > > Go slow through the hairpins and don't spin. You should be able toget a > > couple seconds on him there. Besides that, it does seem that hiscar is > > faster. It took a lot of tries. I could get ahead at the beginningand > stay > > ahead until near the end, then he would always pass me right at theend. I > > found I had to actually block him by looking in the rearview mirrornear > the > > end to stand any chance. You'll probably spin a few times when hehits > you, > > but keep trying. Eventually you'll get it right, and if you'rereally > lucky > > he'll spin and you'll be able to cruise into the finish. Also,make sure
Quoted text (7 lines)> > you're taking the fastest routes through the course. There's lots of > > different ways, take the ones where you are fastest. Good luck. > > Marc > > > > > >
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Tim O 05 Apr 2000#280601
I've come to a screeching halt in the career mode at the mission where I have to beat Dieter before he can retire. He just up and runs away from me. The only time I can even get in front of him is to try to scrape along the guardrail at that first hairpin, then try to hold him off. Is there a strategy to this? I'm using a manual trans, and right from the start, Dieters 911 seems much faster than mine. I've had to try a lot of the missions a few times before getting them, but this one is tough for me! Tim
Marc Goldstein 05 Apr 2000 19:00 UTC#280629
Go slow through the hairpins and don't spin. You should be able to get a couple seconds on him there. Besides that, it does seem that his car is faster. It took a lot of tries. I could get ahead at the beginning and stay ahead until near the end, then he would always pass me right at the end. I found I had to actually block him by looking in the rearview mirror near the end to stand any chance. You'll probably spin a few times when he hits you, but keep trying. Eventually you'll get it right, and if you're really lucky he'll spin and you'll be able to cruise into the finish. Also, make sure you're taking the fastest routes through the course. There's lots of different ways, take the ones where you are fastest. Good luck. Marc
Cliff Roman 05 Apr 2000 19:42 UTC#280543
I was lucky and got past it pretty fast (on my 2nd try), on the 1st try he beat me by about 4/100ths of a sec. What I did in the 2nd race was when he would get beside me, I would force him into something. In the 2nd race I forced him into the side of the opening of the tunnel. That pretty much gave me a big enough lead to win :) Marc Goldstein <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:03MG4.21713$[email hidden]... > Go slow through the hairpins and don't spin. You should be able to get a > couple seconds on him there. Besides that, it does seem that his car is > faster. It took a lot of tries. I could get ahead at the beginning andstay > ahead until near the end, then he would always pass me right at the end. I > found I had to actually block him by looking in the rearview mirror nearthe > end to stand any chance. You'll probably spin a few times when he hitsyou, > but keep trying. Eventually you'll get it right, and if you're reallylucky > he'll spin and you'll be able to cruise into the finish. Also, make sure > you're taking the fastest routes through the course. There's lots of > different ways, take the ones where you are fastest. Good luck. > Marc > >
Paul Kierstead 05 Apr 2000 22:22 UTC#280584
Cliff Roman wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> > I was lucky and got past it pretty fast (on my 2nd try), on the 1st try he > beat me by about 4/100ths of a sec. > > What I did in the 2nd race was when he would get beside me, I would force > him into something. In the 2nd race I forced him into the side of the > opening of the tunnel. That pretty much gave me a big enough lead to win :) >
This seems to be a flaw in the AI. I have been able to push other cars about to pass by just slowly moving over to some obstacle and BAM! they politely crash. They don't seem to have any foresight. Not surprising I guess, but still an easy race technique when you can time it right (requires a little luck) PMK
Cliff Roman 05 Apr 2000 23:37 UTC#280505
Probably not, #3 has a bit more practice using this method :) <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cg9i6$olp$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (50 lines)> I think I used a similar method -- does that mean we're ready for > NASCAR, Clif? <G> > > -- JB > > In article <eGMG4.366$%[email hidden]>, > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I was lucky and got past it pretty fast (on my 2nd try), on the 1st > try he > > beat me by about 4/100ths of a sec. > > > > What I did in the 2nd race was when he would get beside me, I would > force > > him into something. In the 2nd race I forced him into the side of the > > opening of the tunnel. That pretty much gave me a big enough lead to > win :) > > > > Marc Goldstein <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:03MG4.21713$[email hidden]... > > > Go slow through the hairpins and don't spin. You should be able to > get a > > > couple seconds on him there. Besides that, it does seem that his > car is > > > faster. It took a lot of tries. I could get ahead at the beginning > and > > stay > > > ahead until near the end, then he would always pass me right at the > end. I > > > found I had to actually block him by looking in the rearview mirror > near > > the > > > end to stand any chance. You'll probably spin a few times when he > hits > > you, > > > but keep trying. Eventually you'll get it right, and if you're > really > > lucky > > > he'll spin and you'll be able to cruise into the finish. Also, > make sure > > > you're taking the fastest routes through the course. There's lots of > > > different ways, take the ones where you are fastest. Good luck. > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
Tim O 06 Apr 2000#280205
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:04:22 GMT, "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> He just up and runs away from me. The only time I can even get in >> front of him is to try to scrape along the guardrail at that first >> hairpin, then try to hold him off. > >Railrider! :) > Exactly how I felt. It just seems wrong. Heh. Tim
Tim O 06 Apr 2000#524208
Exactly how I felt. It just seems wrong. Heh. Tim
Tim Vanhee 06 Apr 2000 15:04 UTC#280288
> He just up and runs away from me. The only time I can even get in > front of him is to try to scrape along the guardrail at that first > hairpin, then try to hold him off. Railrider! :)
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:04:22 GMT, "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> He just up and runs away from me. The only time I can even get in >> front of him is to try to scrape along the guardrail at that first >> hairpin, then try to hold him off. > >Railrider! :) > NFSPU is one game where you can really railride. I think that is about the only drawback I can see (other than the internet/multiplayer confusion). Sometimes I will make an aggressive mistake and end up slamming a wall without much penalty... This fact alone may kill multiplayer games for me, except maybe with trusted friends. I have learned that when you are playing strangers on the 'net, they'll generally exploit any loopholes in the game to get an advantage. BTW, I clipped Dieter on the second hairpin and sent him into a 360. That was enough to beat him, even though he was only about a second behind me at the finish line. Hey, he said he wasn't going to hold any punches, so I punched him first! --mK
Joe62 09 Apr 2000 17:41 UTC#279197
"Marc Goldstein" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Go slow through the hairpins and don't spin. You should be able to get a >couple seconds on him there. Besides that, it does seem that his car is >faster. Much as I like this game ... I guess it just wouldn't be an EA game without cheating. sigh Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment

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