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Re: NFS:PU -- question about acceleration

9 posts by 7 people · 06 Apr 2000 - 07 Apr 2000 10:36 UTC

Joe McGinn 06 Apr 2000#280141
On 06 Apr 2000 12:39:02 GMT, [email hidden] (JTW62074) wrote: > I'm not sure on this, but I do some programming and think I know why this may >happen in some games. When using a keyboard, it's easy to automatically reach >full throttle (just hit the key!). When using a pedal/joystick setup for >throttle control, it needs to be calibrated. I don't think that's the problem. I've played the game with digital wheels that don't even have calibration. It's a simple driving technique. If you just floor the gas and hold it there your wheels spin for quite a while, during which time you don't accelerate. The fastest way to accelerate is to apply as much has as possible *without* spinning the wheels. You can accelerate as fast as the AI using this technique. The only reason this might not occur with the keyboard is that the programmers have special programming for digital controllers so that the wheels aren't spinning out all the time.
(unknown) 06 Apr 2000#280353
I posted a similar question before but got no response so.... I was wondering, do you guys notice that the computer controlled cars in Evolution out-accelerate you guys off the line? It seems that before I got a wheel/pedal setup, I was ALWAYS able to out accerlate these guys, now it seems that we're either dead even, or they are faster than me. Any ideas? Is this normal?
I'm not sure on this, but I do some programming and think I know why this may happen in some games. When using a keyboard, it's easy to automatically reach full throttle (just hit the key!). When using a pedal/joystick setup for throttle control, it needs to be calibrated. The problem is, when you floor the pedal/push the stick all the way forward during calibration, the program may not get the setting correct (to put it simply). You may want to try calibrating the pedal/joystick a little differently in the throttle axis. When it says "accelerate all the way (or whatever)" to calibrate the stick/pedal, push it forward ALMOST all the way, then click or end the calibration test. When you now floor the gas pedal/push the stick all the way forward, you should get full throttle. It's not necessarily going to work in every game, but from a programmer's point of view, it's a possibility. Have fun! Todd http://PerformanceSimulations.com
Klinn 06 Apr 2000 17:05 UTC#280209
If you hold the gas pedal all the way down, you will get wheelspin off the line. You have to back off by about 500-1000 rpm from redline, although the result also depends on how powerful the car is. Since it is pretty much impossible to modulate the throttle this way when using a keyboard, maybe the game fudges it for you when using it as the controller. Changing to a manual transmission would probably improve acceleration too (the game effectively giving you a 'bonus' for choosing the more difficult control method) but I must confess for this sort of game I usually just leave it in automatic. IHMHIS (I Hang My Head In Shame) ...Colin French [email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> I posted a similar question before but got no response so.... > > I was wondering, do you guys notice that the computer controlled cars > in Evolution out-accelerate you guys off the line? It seems that > before I got a wheel/pedal setup, I was ALWAYS able to out accerlate > these guys, now it seems that we're either dead even, or they are > faster than me. > > Any ideas? Is this normal?
GTX_SlotCar 06 Apr 2000 18:14 UTC#280232
I know what you mean. I can now keep even with them off the line using the right amount of gas and hitting 2nd gear just right. Sometimes can gain on the slowest AI car off the line, but the leader speeds away. Takes forever to catch him. Slot <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> I posted a similar question before but got no response so.... > > I was wondering, do you guys notice that the computer controlled cars > in Evolution out-accelerate you guys off the line? It seems that > before I got a wheel/pedal setup, I was ALWAYS able to out accerlate > these guys, now it seems that we're either dead even, or they are > faster than me. > > Any ideas? Is this normal? > >
GTX_SlotCar 06 Apr 2000 18:22 UTC#280233
Don't worry about it. Winning is the thing. After a year in SCGT shifting all the way with some very decent lap times, I found out a couple weeks ago that I'm just as fast and it's easier to drive in automatic. Act Labs needs a new shifter template. Something like this: P R N D 2 1 ;-) 2nd place is just first loser. Slot Colin French <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > game I usually just leave it in automatic. IHMHIS (I Hang My Head In > Shame) > > ...Colin French >
(unknown) 07 Apr 2000#279928
Thnx for the replys, but I know that's not what I'm talkkning about...accelerating off the line. I guess it is me huh? Because, it doesn't seem like I had this problem with the joystick. Hmmm....and that was digital too. Oh well, can I recalibrate a ACT digital USB wheel? On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:13:13 -0400, "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (21 lines)>I know what you mean. I can now keep even with them off the line using the >right amount of gas and hitting 2nd gear just right. Sometimes can gain on >the slowest AI car off the line, but the leader speeds away. Takes forever >to catch him. > >Slot > > ><[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> I posted a similar question before but got no response so.... >> >> I was wondering, do you guys notice that the computer controlled cars >> in Evolution out-accelerate you guys off the line? It seems that >> before I got a wheel/pedal setup, I was ALWAYS able to out accerlate >> these guys, now it seems that we're either dead even, or they are >> faster than me. >> >> Any ideas? Is this normal? >> >> >
Ryath 07 Apr 2000#280098
I guess it's up to preference, but I don't see how you can beat the ability to choose the gear yourself. The fun factor goes, when using auto, and you lose control of the gears, effectively losing control of your acceleration. Can an auto hold a gear even though you are redlining, some real life autos can, but the game just shifts up on you. In article <zB4H4.49$[email hidden]>, "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Don't worry about it. Winning is the thing. After a year in SCGTshifting > all the way with some very decent lap times, I found out a coupleweeks ago > that I'm just as fast and it's easier to drive in automatic. Act Labsneeds > a new shifter template. Something like this: P R N D 2 1 ;-) > > 2nd place is just first loser. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Mike 07 Apr 2000 10:36 UTC#279901
I never use automatic. Downshifting is key on courses like (NFS:PU) Monaco and Cote Azure or any course where there are brutal horseshoes. I learned the importance of this in NFSSE and have never looked back. As far as off the line goes...That's a coin toss but with practice, manual, to me, is the way to go there as well. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

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