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Re: F1-2000 and Voodoo II

17 posts by 9 people · 07 Apr 2000 - 14 Apr 2000 14:40 UTC

Greg Cisko 07 Apr 2000#279856
Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Can you run F1-2000 with the Voodoo 2 card? A friend of mine would like > to know since he has a Intel 740 and it locks up most of the time if he > plays various games. He would like to run F1-2000 with his Voodoo2 > if that is possibile. Thanks. Yes. With a P2-450 he should get 15 fps in quickraces and 20 fps in test sessions, all @800x600. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. Please reply to: cisko[AT] ix [dot] netcom [dot] com
Mrv 07 Apr 2000#524233
Thanks Bill > > Can you run F1-2000 with the Voodoo 2 card? A friend of mine would like > > to know since he has a Intel 740 and it locks up most of the time if he > > plays various games. He would like to run F1-2000 with his Voodoo2 > > if that is possibile. Thanks. > yes
Mrv 07 Apr 2000 16:29 UTC#279946
Can you run F1-2000 with the Voodoo 2 card? A friend of mine would like to know since he has a Intel 740 and it locks up most of the time if he plays various games. He would like to run F1-2000 with his Voodoo2 if that is possibile. Thanks.
Mrv 07 Apr 2000 18:46 UTC#279839
Thanks Bill bill worthington wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can you run F1-2000 with the Voodoo 2 card? A friend of mine would like > > to know since he has a Intel 740 and it locks up most of the time if he > > plays various games. He would like to run F1-2000 with his Voodoo2 > > if that is possibile. Thanks. > > > > yes
bill worthington 07 Apr 2000 19:01 UTC#279973
Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Can you run F1-2000 with the Voodoo 2 card? A friend of mine would like > to know since he has a Intel 740 and it locks up most of the time if he > plays various games. He would like to run F1-2000 with his Voodoo2 > if that is possibile. Thanks. > yes
Greg Cisko 09 Apr 2000#279226
Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Yes. With a P2-450 he should get 15 fps in quickraces and > >20 fps in test sessions, all @800x600. > > Holy cow. When I wrote how bad your framerate report was, I only saw > the 20 fps comment, didn't realize that was in testing, it was 15 in > racing. Fifteen? FIFTEEN??? What is this, 1995?
*FIFTE-FREEKIN-TEEN* Nope 2000 at 800x600 with awesome graphics against 22 opponants and the mirrors on. F-15 Strike Eagle 3 was locked at 15 fps and the framerate was fine. Also I believe cartoons are locked at 15 fps. 15 isn't bad, lower would be. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > Joe McGinn > _____________________ > Radical Entertainment
Joe62 09 Apr 2000 17:50 UTC#279201
Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can you run F1-2000 with the Voodoo 2 card? You can. Of course, with the slow speed and poor look of the graphics, you might still THINK it's running in software! ;-) Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
Joe62 09 Apr 2000 17:52 UTC#279202
"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yes. With a P2-450 he should get 15 fps in quickraces and >20 fps in test sessions, all @800x600. Holy cow. When I wrote how bad your framerate report was, I only saw the 20 fps comment, didn't realize that was in testing, it was 15 in racing. Fifteen? FIFTEEN??? What is this, 1995? Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
lbaum 09 Apr 2000 19:24 UTC#279236
[email hidden] (Joe62) wrote in <[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (13 lines)>"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Yes. With a P2-450 he should get 15 fps in quickraces and >>20 fps in test sessions, all @800x600. > >Holy cow. When I wrote how bad your framerate report was, I only saw >the 20 fps comment, didn't realize that was in testing, it was 15 in >racing. Fifteen? FIFTEEN??? What is this, 1995? > >Joe McGinn >_____________________ >Radical Entertainment >
What does the year have to do with it? So what if machines are more powerful now? You can always write software that keeps track of more details and shows more things. Should all games stop at the level of detail they were at in 1995? Now this is not to say that some programs aren't piggish -err, try Windows for one :)- and/or don't use poor algorithms. The MAC OS, I beleive, has to go through something like 8x more instructions per task switch than with the Amiga OS, for example. Maybe this is horribly programmed then again maybe it is well programmed but simply handling more than you think.
Joe62 09 Apr 2000 20:54 UTC#279259
"Greg Cisko" <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote: >15 isn't bad, lower would be. Sorry. Fifteen fps in a 3d accelerated racing sim is pathetic. Period. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
Joe62 09 Apr 2000 20:56 UTC#279260
[email hidden] (lbaum) wrote: >What does the year have to do with it? I haven't played racing games with such a piss-poor frame-rate since pre-3d-accelerator days. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
Remco Moedt 09 Apr 2000 21:40 UTC#279269
"Greg Cisko" <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)>Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Yes. With a P2-450 he should get 15 fps in quickraces and >> >20 fps in test sessions, all @800x600. >> >> Holy cow. When I wrote how bad your framerate report was, I only saw >> the 20 fps comment, didn't realize that was in testing, it was 15 in >> racing. Fifteen? FIFTEEN??? What is this, 1995? > >*FIFTE-FREEKIN-TEEN* > >Nope 2000 at 800x600 with awesome graphics against 22 >opponants and the mirrors on. F-15 Strike Eagle 3 was locked >at 15 fps and the framerate was fine. Also I believe cartoons >are locked at 15 fps. 15 isn't bad, lower would be.
Hmmm, with a speed of 300 Kph and a framerate of 15 fps your screen is updated after every 5.5 meters....A bit too much IMO... Remco
Erwan 11 Apr 2000#278771
15 frames /s is the minimum for a cars sim. Under, it's not playable any more. 20 / 25 is quite good and and i can be at top to 58 in qualifs. But an average of 30 in races Joe62 <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> [email hidden] (lbaum) wrote: > > >What does the year have to do with it? > > I haven't played racing games with such a piss-poor frame-rate since > pre-3d-accelerator days. > > Joe McGinn > _____________________ > Radical Entertainment
Joe62 14 Apr 2000 05:07 UTC#278217
"Erwan Gourvenec" <[email hidden]> wrote: >15 frames /s is the minimum for a cars sim. 25 is the absolute minimum tolerable frame rate, though still annoyingly slow. With current graphics technolgy there's no excuse for any sim to be slower than 30-40 fps. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
Ruud van Gaal 14 Apr 2000 13:17 UTC#278133
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:07:38 GMT, [email hidden] (Joe62) wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>"Erwan Gourvenec" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>15 frames /s is the minimum for a cars sim. > >25 is the absolute minimum tolerable frame rate, though still >annoyingly slow. With current graphics technolgy there's no excuse for >any sim to be slower than 30-40 fps.
They excuse may be detail. It's actually quite nice to see it run quite ok at this time (~25fps) and see it become better in a year or so with better graphics cards, so you can turn on more detail. But well, probably GP3 or another F1 game may have superseded F12K already. Let's hope so :) Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery
Joe62 14 Apr 2000 14:40 UTC#278057
[email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) wrote: >They excuse may be detail. That may be the escuse they give, but I'm not buying it. The game just doesn't look that good. It's a poorly done graphics engine, plain and simple. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment

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