I was rejected as a beta tester from First-Racing. Now I hang my head in shame.

I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no love. Brit btgoss

Whew...I don't feel so bad anymore..lol... Dave "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]...

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> I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing > at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, > but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah > well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no > love. > Brit > btgoss

Me too... just got the same F.O.A.D. rejection letter. "Dave St.Onge" <1@1> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Whew...I don't feel so bad anymore..lol... > > Dave > > "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]... > > I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing > > at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, > > but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah > > well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no > > love. > > Brit > > btgoss > >

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> I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing > at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, > but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah > well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no > love. > Brit > btgoss

Join the club... I guess you must some previous connections to be considered. I wasn't expecting too much when I signed up, but it is a bit disappoiting considering how long I've been sim racing.

Me too. Maybe it was all a cruel joke, eh? "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]...

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> I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing > at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, > but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah > well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no > love. > Brit > btgoss

"btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]...

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> I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing > at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, > but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah > well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no > love. > Brit > btgoss

Another "me too -er" here. I guess the fact that I've done every racing sim since the dawn of time was a bad thing?? ;-) Maybe I should have only listed a couple sims... -Martin

"Steve Smith" wrote... > Me too. Maybe it was all a cruel joke, eh? Me thinks they just didn't want drivers with opinions on racing sims... (they rejected me too, bastards!! <g>). Good thing tho', as I'm unexpectedly "wheelless"... :-/ Jan. =---

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:20:27 GMT, Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> "Steve Smith" wrote... >> Me too. Maybe it was all a cruel joke, eh? > > Me thinks they just didn't want drivers with opinions on racing sims... > (they rejected me too, bastards!! <g>). > > Good thing tho', as I'm unexpectedly "wheelless"... :-/ > > Jan. >=---

And me, with all the ranks I've done and maintain(ed) listed in my application! How could they??? I thought I'd see maybe a little thanks for gplrank, but now. Cruel world ;-) Cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

You see that is just the thing. My buddy is not well connected. At least I don't think so. He did do some minor work for a flight sim, but I have been a beta tester for other titles in the past. I think they are just being mean. Perhaps they are picking names at random. Or letting a monkey, or some other lower form of animal life pick the names from a bag of kibble. Who knows? Brit btgoss

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 04:53:19 GMT, "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Me too. Maybe it was all a cruel joke, eh? >No Steve, perhaps we're too old? I got the rejection last night. Christ, I can't even get a job that pays nothing LOL. Downsized out of a beta testing job. I beta tested Nascar Racing and Indy Racing II. I think it was my disdane for Nascar and preference for open wheel in my application that did me in. Or maybe it was the letter I wrote Mr Kaemmer years ago about their beta testing methodology or lack thereof .... Game development and business system development operate in separate universes as far as I can see. Oh well, perhaps, they'll produce a good product but the ISI thing is looking pretty sweet. Jeff

mee tooo! i'm a brit and raced on TEN! although i did point out i cant devote too much time to sim-racing these days, but an opportunity like that would have really got my interest again. i dont take it personally, can only assume they are after a select few and the creme de laaa.... defo pleased the whole thing even exists!! jon "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]... >I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing at >this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, but >me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah well, I am >still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no love. > Brit > btgoss

I didn't apply, but do all or any of you really think that you've missed anything...? I don't...

Applying for this beta group was a waste of time for all of us except for the old guard that delivered is all the versions of nascar full of them bugs.. I'd expect to find the same ole incompetent testers since nascar 1... Don Wilshe I was rejected as well. "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]... >I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing at >this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, but >me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah well, I am >still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no love. > Brit > btgoss

btgoss wrote: > You see that is just the thing. > My buddy is not well connected. At least I don't think so. He did do > some minor work for a flight sim, but I have been a beta tester for > other titles in the past. For whatever reason, First sent me one of the (apparently very rare) Golden Tickets! I mentioned previous beta testing experience, but my "resume" is hardly very impressive. I suspect they weed out the obvious yahoos, then draw by lot. > I think they are just being mean. Perhaps they are picking names at > random. Or letting a monkey, or some other lower form of animal life > pick the names from a bag of kibble. I don't think they would knowingly hire televangelists, do you? (My appologies to all primate lifeforms for loosely comparing you with TV preachers.) -Greg

Yeh what fools we are to expect anything from the founder and brains behind papyrus... Moron. "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cq1nf3$kkn$[email hidden]... >I didn't apply, but do all or any of you really think that you've missed > anything...? > > I don't... > >

Don Wilshe wrote: > I was rejected as well. Ahh, Faith restored :P (Another rejectee, however I think possibly living in a non-US location didn't help matters.) Alan.

"btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9Kwd.3098$[email hidden]...

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> I just got my email telling me I am not a beta tester for First-Racing > at this time. My buddy, whom I told about the application, he got in, > but me...nope. I think I may have been to glib in my application. Ah > well, I am still going to buy there game, although they have shown me no > love. > Brit > btgoss

Yep, me rejected too. Maybe they don't want well mannered conservatives with supreme good will toward their fellow man like me?

"Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%oZwd.176229$[email hidden]...

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> Applying for this beta group was a waste of time for all of us except for > the old > guard that delivered is all the versions of nascar full of them bugs.. > I'd expect to find the same ole incompetent testers since nascar 1... > > > Don Wilshe > > I was rejected as well.

That's because they wanted testers, not hackers.

Don't think it was that logical. For one thing, Kaemmer himself disdains roundy-round stock car racing; vastly preferring the open wheelers. He once told me he's rather do a sim of 100-hp Barber Dodge single-seaters than anything with a roof. I suspect the names were picked out of a hat. "Born Once NotAgain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 04:53:19 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Me too. Maybe it was all a cruel joke, eh? > > > No Steve, perhaps we're too old? I got the rejection last night. > Christ, I can't even get a job that pays nothing LOL. Downsized out of > a beta testing job. I beta tested Nascar Racing and Indy Racing II. > I think it was my disdane for Nascar and preference for open wheel in > my application that did me in. Or maybe it was the letter I wrote Mr > Kaemmer years ago about their beta testing methodology or lack thereof > .... Game development and business system development operate in > separate universes as far as I can see. > > Oh well, perhaps, they'll produce a good product but the ISI thing is > looking pretty sweet. > > Jeff

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:02:51 GMT, "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'd expect to find the same ole incompetent testers since nascar 1... > > >Don Wilshe > >I was rejected as well. You attack the testers and are quite wrong sir. The testers test, suggest and report. The developers either ignore or make the changes. The publisher gives or does not give the developer the time to make the changes. Learn the process, then comment. Jeff

I got rejected too. Maybe they didn't want any beta testers from r.a.s... ;) -- - Jussi Koukku -

I was going to apply, but I don't run N2K3 anymore, or the mods. I figure whatever they are working on is just another mod to N2K3. Whatever it turns out to be, it ain't no GTR. ;-) ZZ -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League oAo AoA MARA TransAm GT Rank +79.568 GPL Rank + 14.768 MoGPL Rank + 308.654 N2003 Rank -18.8060 ---------------- Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward -----------------

Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from the founder of papyrus will blow it away. "ZZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YNKxd.166518$[email hidden]...

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>I was going to apply, but I don't run N2K3 anymore, or the mods. > I figure whatever they are working on is just another mod to N2K3. > > Whatever it turns out to be, it ain't no GTR. ;-) > > ZZ > > -- > Richard "ZZ" Busch > > Member: > Screamers Racing League > oAo > AoA > MARA TransAm > GT Rank +79.568 > GPL Rank + 14.768 > MoGPL Rank + 308.654 > N2003 Rank -18.8060 > ---------------- > Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward > ----------------- > >

"Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41c79852$[email hidden]... > Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from the > founder of papyrus will blow it away. Yep, we all know that Papy would never think of using a dated engine over and over again now would they ? <wink> >

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote something like: >Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from the >founder of papyrus will blow it away. And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> -- - Jussi Koukku -

something like: And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> -- - Jussi Koukku -

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:14:32 GMT, ZZ wrote:

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> I was going to apply, but I don't run N2K3 anymore, or the mods. > I figure whatever they are working on is just another mod to N2K3. > > Whatever it turns out to be, it ain't no GTR. ;-) > > ZZ >

Hey ZZ, Gazza is looking for a cheap copy ;-) uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote > something like: > > >Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from the > >founder of papyrus will blow it away. > > And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> > -- > - Jussi Koukku -

rFactor will end the debate very soon. :-) -- David G Fisher

"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote > something like: > >>Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from the >>founder of papyrus will blow it away. > > And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away

and it will probably go back to being free this time too > <g> <bg>

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:28:38 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote something like:

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>"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote >> something like: >> >> >Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from the >> >founder of papyrus will blow it away. >> >> And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> > >rFactor will end the debate very soon. :-)

Oh, I forgot this official mod from the founders of ISI. I presume that First-Racing, that is after all just a mod for the dated NR2003, will also be blown away? -- - Jussi Koukku -

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> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:14:32 GMT, ZZ wrote: > >>I was going to apply, but I don't run N2K3 anymore, or the mods. >>I figure whatever they are working on is just another mod to N2K3. >> >>Whatever it turns out to be, it ain't no GTR. ;-) >> >>ZZ >> > > > Hey ZZ, Gazza is looking for a cheap copy ;-) > uwe > >

---------------- He can have it when he pries it from my cold dead fingers. ;-) After over 700 laps in GTR, everything else seems to easy, even GPL. ZZ ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

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> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:28:38 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> > wrote something like: > >"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> something like: > >> > >> >Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from

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> >> >founder of papyrus will blow it away. > >> > >> And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> > > > >rFactor will end the debate very soon. :-) > > Oh, I forgot this official mod from the founders of ISI. I presume > that First-Racing, that is after all just a mod for the dated NR2003, > will also be blown away? > -- > - Jussi Koukku -

Now I'm getting confused. :-) -- David G Fisher

"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:28:38 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> > wrote something like: > >"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> something like: > >> > >> >Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from

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> >> >founder of papyrus will blow it away. > >> > >> And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> > > > >rFactor will end the debate very soon. :-) > > Oh, I forgot this official mod from the founders of ISI. I presume > that First-Racing, that is after all just a mod for the dated NR2003, > will also be blown away? > -- > - Jussi Koukku -

One thing's for sure - it's about bloody time Kaemmer had some serious competition. And we had some alternatives to Papy. Long overdue!

"Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41c95bec$0$31700$[email hidden] ...

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> > "Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:28:38 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> > > wrote something like: > > >"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > >> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:29 +1100, "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote > > >> something like: > > >> > > >> >Gtr is just a mod for the dated F1C from ISI, any official mod from > the > > >> >founder of papyrus will blow it away. > > >> > > >> And GTR2 using the up to date ISI engine will blow them all away <g> > > > > > >rFactor will end the debate very soon. :-) > > > > Oh, I forgot this official mod from the founders of ISI. I presume > > that First-Racing, that is after all just a mod for the dated NR2003, > > will also be blown away? > > -- > > - Jussi Koukku - > > One thing's for sure - it's about bloody time Kaemmer had some serious > competition. And we had some alternatives to Papy. Long overdue!

Yep. > >