Re: F1-2000 second look

Alexander Marx <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cns08$6kb9c$[email hidden]... > especially the brake balance and it is really not that bad... hell, it's > good. I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad > accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. Sothe So I guess that guy who said he saw a incar cam with Barrichello running imola is nuts. He claimed the F1 2000 imola track was accurrate according to the incar cam. Know what? I'll be watching the race tomorrow. Even though I have seen imola on TV for over a dozen years and raced with many sims there, I will be very interested to see the race tomorrow. If the imola track model in F1 2000 sucks I will say so here and apologize to frankie. If it is accurate, you guys better wear some asbestos undies :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy, the weak > sound (which seem to be pretty accurate samples but they are ruined by a > bad sound system), and the AI, which I found totally unacceptable.

Try rhis to help with the AI http://www.btinternet.com/~michael.blackmore/f12ksetting.zip It improves them quite a bit On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:55:05 +0200, "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I gave it another try... > >And the first �time I overlooked some pretty nice features. The game really >gets a lot better with much tweaking. After setting my System Rating to the >recommended Setting and turning off Mipmapping and such the framerate is >acceptable, if not even good sometimes (Celeron500, Voodoo3, 256mb). THe >next step that allowed me to get into this sim was downloading the new >driving cams from Blackhole Motorsports. The 2nd in-car camera is perfect! I >tweaked the deadzone out of my controller using CTFjoy and surprise :the >Driving Physics are better than every other currently available modern F1 >Sim. But I absolutely hate the default setups - way too much understeer. >They are so bad for me that I initially confused really way off setups with >a way off driving model. I was wrong - I fiddled a bit with the setups, >especially the brake balance and it is really not that bad... hell, it's >good. I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad >accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. So the >only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy, the weak >sound (which seem to be pretty accurate samples but they are ruined by a >bad sound system), and the AI, which I found totally unacceptable. > >and so I went to do the unthinkable ...... > >I bought it. In the hope that ISI can exploit the full potential of a >basically good game engine and get the money to hire good track modellers >and AI programmers. And I have a (dare I say) decent F1 sim for hotlapping >on (pretty much) fantasy tracks until the final GP3 comes along (which will >blow F1-2000 away for Sound, F1 feeling and track accuracy, you heard it >here). > >I still don't think it's really worth the money considering the satisfaction >I get out of another sim that I won't mention because I could stir up a huge >thread about it's dominance of this group, but I'm somewhat sorry now about >my too harsh criticism of the warez release. The basics of a good sim are >there, it just seems to be released at least one year too early. That (and >the fact that it was only 55DM - 25$ :-) is the reason why I have turned 180 >and bought a disappointing product ...in the hope that ISI does listen and >produces one hell of a good sim for 2001. > >That was my last Rant about F1-2000. > > >--- >Alexander Marx >mailo:[email hidden] > >

I gave it another try... And the first �time I overlooked some pretty nice features. The game really gets a lot better with much tweaking. After setting my System Rating to the recommended Setting and turning off Mipmapping and such the framerate is acceptable, if not even good sometimes (Celeron500, Voodoo3, 256mb). THe next step that allowed me to get into this sim was downloading the new driving cams from Blackhole Motorsports. The 2nd in-car camera is perfect! I tweaked the deadzone out of my controller using CTFjoy and surprise :the Driving Physics are better than every other currently available modern F1 Sim. But I absolutely hate the default setups - way too much understeer. They are so bad for me that I initially confused really way off setups with a way off driving model. I was wrong - I fiddled a bit with the setups, especially the brake balance and it is really not that bad... hell, it's good. I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. So the only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy, the weak sound (which seem to be pretty accurate samples but they are ruined by a bad sound system), and the AI, which I found totally unacceptable. and so I went to do the unthinkable ...... I bought it. In the hope that ISI can exploit the full potential of a basically good game engine and get the money to hire good track modellers and AI programmers. And I have a (dare I say) decent F1 sim for hotlapping on (pretty much) fantasy tracks until the final GP3 comes along (which will blow F1-2000 away for Sound, F1 feeling and track accuracy, you heard it here). I still don't think it's really worth the money considering the satisfaction I get out of another sim that I won't mention because I could stir up a huge thread about it's dominance of this group, but I'm somewhat sorry now about my too harsh criticism of the warez release. The basics of a good sim are there, it just seems to be released at least one year too early. That (and the fact that it was only 55DM - 25$ :-) is the reason why I have turned 180 and bought a disappointing product ...in the hope that ISI does listen and produces one hell of a good sim for 2001. That was my last Rant about F1-2000. --- Alexander Marx mailo:[email hidden]

Ummm...starts with a "G", ends with an "L"? ;-)

How exactly do you change your system rating? I loaded it up last night, and while i thought the physics were fairly good, I am struggling with the framerate on my Celeron running at 464 mhz, V3 3000 card, and 128 mb of ram. I adjusted some graphics options down, which helped some. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cns08$6kb9c$[email hidden]... > I gave it another try... > > And the first �time I overlooked some pretty nice features. The game really > gets a lot better with much tweaking. After setting my System Rating to the > recommended Setting and turning off Mipmapping and such the framerate is > acceptable, if not even good sometimes (Celeron500, Voodoo3, 256mb). THe > next step that allowed me to get into this sim was downloading the new > driving cams from Blackhole Motorsports. The 2nd in-car camera is perfect! I > tweaked the deadzone out of my controller using CTFjoy and surprise :the > Driving Physics are better than every other currently available modern F1 > Sim. But I absolutely hate the default setups - way too much understeer. > They are so bad for me that I initially confused really way off setups with > a way off driving model. I was wrong - I fiddled a bit with the setups, > especially the brake balance and it is really not that bad... hell, it's > good. I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad > accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. So the > only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy, the weak > sound (which seem to be pretty accurate samples but they are ruined by a > bad sound system), and the AI, which I found totally unacceptable. snip

what other sim???? Alexander Marx <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cns08$6kb9c$[email hidden]... > I gave it another try... > > And the first �time I overlooked some pretty nice features. The gamereally > gets a lot better with much tweaking. After setting my System Rating tothe > recommended Setting and turning off Mipmapping and such the framerate is > acceptable, if not even good sometimes (Celeron500, Voodoo3, 256mb). THe > next step that allowed me to get into this sim was downloading the new > driving cams from Blackhole Motorsports. The 2nd in-car camera is perfect!I > tweaked the deadzone out of my controller using CTFjoy and surprise :the > Driving Physics are better than every other currently available modern F1 > Sim. But I absolutely hate the default setups - way too much understeer. > They are so bad for me that I initially confused really way off setupswith > a way off driving model. I was wrong - I fiddled a bit with the setups, > especially the brake balance and it is really not that bad... hell, it's > good. I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad > accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. Sothe

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> only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy, the weak > sound (which seem to be pretty accurate samples but they are ruined by a > bad sound system), and the AI, which I found totally unacceptable. > > and so I went to do the unthinkable ...... > > I bought it. In the hope that ISI can exploit the full potential of a > basically good game engine and get the money to hire good track modellers > and AI programmers. And I have a (dare I say) decent F1 sim for hotlapping > on (pretty much) fantasy tracks until the final GP3 comes along (which

will > blow F1-2000 away for Sound, F1 feeling and track accuracy, you heard it > here). > > I still don't think it's really worth the money considering thesatisfaction > I get out of another sim that I won't mention because I could stir up ahuge > thread about it's dominance of this group, but I'm somewhat sorry nowabout > my too harsh criticism of the warez release. The basics of a good sim are > there, it just seems to be released at least one year too early. That(and > the fact that it was only 55DM - 25$ :-) is the reason why I have turned180

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> and bought a disappointing product ...in the hope that ISI does listen and > produces one hell of a good sim for 2001. > > That was my last Rant about F1-2000. > > > --- > Alexander Marx > mailo:[email hidden] > >

The One <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IMKH4.26411$[email hidden]... > what other sim???? Ummm...starts with a "G", ends with an "L"? ;-)

In article <0GKH4.91273$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: >How exactly do you change your system rating? There's a "system rating" in the config.ini. Some have reported improved framerate by changing this value. It did absolutely nothing for me. Being a skeptic, I think it just is FYI and is perhaps used to set the initial detail levels. I don't think it in itself does anything. >I loaded it up last night, and while i thought the physics were fairly good, >I am struggling with the framerate on my Celeron running at 464 mhz, V3 3000 >card, and 128 mb of ram. >I adjusted some graphics options down, which helped some. Use FRAPS (www.fraps.com) to get a readout of the framerate. I use a replay file, tweak graphics, and look at the effect on that same replay. So far, hands down, the best way to increase framerate while maintaining fine graphics is the one you might not like: reduce the number of opponents. This is only doable in-game for test time, but you can edit your .PLR file in your save directory (just send it to a text editor). Under "[GAMEOPTIONS]", look for **_opponents, where the first two letters refer to the race type. Also, cut back on vehicle detail (I like high texture and will sacrifice polygons), start the race with a no-cockpit view, turn off grandstands... Still, it could be a heck of a lot smoother for the graphics quality.

Believe me Greg, I checked it out in some detail with Rubens in-car footage yesterday and F12K looks pretty good to me! Iain Greg Cisko <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote in message news:8cohf4$c9p$[email hidden]... > Alexander Marx <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8cns08$6kb9c$[email hidden]... > > especially the brake balance and it is really not that bad... hell, it's > > good. I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model ,bad

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> > accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. So > the > > So I guess that guy who said he saw a incar cam with Barrichello > running imola is nuts. He claimed the F1 2000 imola track was > accurrate according to the incar cam. Know what? I'll be watching > the race tomorrow. Even though I have seen imola on TV for over > a dozen years and raced with many sims there, I will be very > interested to see the race tomorrow. > > If the imola track model in F1 2000 sucks I will say so here and > apologize to frankie. If it is accurate, you guys better wear some > asbestos undies :-) > > -- > > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com > > > only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy, the

weak > > sound (which seem to be pretty accurate samples but they are ruined bya > > bad sound system), and the AI, which I found totally unacceptable. > > >

> I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad > accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. Sothe > only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy> I disagree - I think the track accuracy is quite good with this track. Most of the others are terrible though - I've never noticed a curve on the Hanger 'Straight' at Silverstone before!

That's funny - one of the other fave ctritics of the accuracy said that Silverstone was perfect! You just don't know, do you? I know what you mean about Silverstone, but we'll see in a couple of weeks as the tracks change from year to year. Iain Y_Sbutycase <mick@*NOSPAM*mbrowning.screaming.net> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I loaded up Imola and was disappointed again - bad track model , bad > > accuracy ... BUT: once I got into it I found it enjoyable on its own. So > the > > only really lasting criticism I have is the bad track accuracy> > > I disagree - I think the track accuracy is quite good with this track. > Most of the others are terrible though - I've never noticed a curve on the > Hanger 'Straight' at Silverstone before! > >