Re: GPL: reverse gear

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> >Today I was slowly coasting into the pits, mad at my inability to break any >track records, when I downshifted all the way into reverse. To my surprise, >the car kept right on going. I went to start a GP race, meaning damage was >on, and tried it again. Sure enough, and up to pretty decent speeds, too. > >What's going on here? I know that my Audi can be put in reverse while it's >still going forward, thanks to its reverse gear also being syncromeshed, but >I don't believe I can also release the clutch at anything of forward speed. >Someone shed some light on this, please? > >-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

I don't know of anyway to help you, but if I pop the car into reverse while going the right way, I'm gonna be looking at oncoming traffic head-on! :-) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrashes.cjb.net

Today I was slowly coasting into the pits, mad at my inability to break any track records, when I downshifted all the way into reverse. To my surprise, the car kept right on going. I went to start a GP race, meaning damage was on, and tried it again. Sure enough, and up to pretty decent speeds, too. What's going on here? I know that my Audi can be put in reverse while it's still going forward, thanks to its reverse gear also being syncromeshed, but I don't believe I can also release the clutch at anything of forward speed. Someone shed some light on this, please? -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

Let me clarify. Once it snaps in reverse gear, I have to show some steermanship to keep it in line, but then I can floor it and all it does is slow down. Feels... unright. -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:01:37 +0200, "Laurens de Jong" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Today I was slowly coasting into the pits, mad at my inability to break any >track records, when I downshifted all the way into reverse. To my surprise, >the car kept right on going. I went to start a GP race, meaning damage was >on, and tried it again. Sure enough, and up to pretty decent speeds, too. > >What's going on here? I know that my Audi can be put in reverse while it's >still going forward, thanks to its reverse gear also being syncromeshed, but >I don't believe I can also release the clutch at anything of forward speed. >Someone shed some light on this, please?

This is odd. I'm quite sure that when I do this, my car (I usually race Eagle and Honda) becomes a bucking bronco, with little chance of recovery. Did you try accelerating when you were in the reverse gear? Surely that would have caused a spin? { If you'd like to discuss this issue further, don't hesitate to contact me on ICQ, at 70300233 }

i love to use the reverse gear in gpl (i use it as my brakes when ever i finish an online race...) i think the reason you can get away with going forward in reverse is because gpl works the clutch automaticly (or something like that) i mean dosent it also seem funny that the car never stalls... if you did something like the in real life it would probably result in some pretty bad drive train damage, but im not expert... if you pay attention to what happens when you put it in reverse at speed (with the throtle closed of course) it drags the rear tires for a second and then then spin freely. i think gpl puts it in gear, and then it senses that the engine wouldnt realy be running in that situation so it forces the clutch to be used i hope that made sense :)

>i hope that made sense :) That made perfect sense. I hadn't thought of the auto-clutch kicking in in this situation, but I really think that's it. I also think the gearbox would be pretty much broken before GPL clutches for me, but that's another story. Wait a minute... it can't be the clutch. Because, I can push the throttle all the way down and it doesn't rev. Hmm, back to square one? -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Laurens de Jong <[email hidden]> wrote: :>i hope that made sense :) : That made perfect sense. I hadn't thought of the auto-clutch : kicking in in this situation, but I really think that's it. I : also think the gearbox would be pretty much broken before GPL : clutches for me, but that's another story. : Wait a minute... it can't be the clutch. Because, I can push the : throttle all the way down and it doesn't rev. Hmm, back to : square one? I think GPL does some odd things with engines at times. Another example is if you sit in the sand trap at Monza you can have the accelerator flat to the floor in first and the engine won't be ticking over. It's quite strange. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Richard G Clegg wrote:

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> > I think GPL does some odd things with engines at times. Another > example is if you sit in the sand trap at Monza you can have the > accelerator flat to the floor in first and the engine won't be ticking > over. It's quite strange. > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

I think that may not be an engine but tyre effect. Perhaps GPL models the contact velocity dependent wheel resistance due to the material being thrown away by the tyres. Or perhaps not. -Gregor

hmm I use to take the 76 Buick (HUGE CAR) i owned when I was 18 into a snowy parking lot, get it goin 20 mph or more then slide er into neutral then reverse and floor it +) hehe I called into practicing winter driving lol. Never did have any tranny troubles with that car, tho it was an auto, not sure if it was a turbo 350. It was drinking and driving that finally killed that car. after a day of Gravel Running (anyone remember that?) with a case of beer between 3 of us, I tried to do the local 1 lane 'S' bridge at 75 mph. We all lived and even drove away, but not until after hitting both sides of the bridge putting 6" deep dents all the way down both sides of the car, taking the exhaust off it, into a 10 ft deep ditch and out again. Lucky to be alive, any modern car and I wouldn't be here writing this today, nor would my friends. 1 for the road?! I'll drive after 1 drink but no more, its not worth it people!! My thots Md Gregor Veble wrote:

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> > Richard G Clegg wrote: > > > > I think GPL does some odd things with engines at times. Another > > example is if you sit in the sand trap at Monza you can have the > > accelerator flat to the floor in first and the engine won't be ticking > > over. It's quite strange. > > > > -- > > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/ > > I think that may not be an engine but tyre effect. Perhaps GPL models > the contact velocity dependent wheel resistance due to the material > being thrown away by the tyres. Or perhaps not. > > -Gregor

Funny how this discussion would never come up if this was N3 we were talkin about. >> I think that may not be an engine but tyre effect. Perhaps GPL models >> the contact velocity dependent wheel resistance due to the material >> being thrown away by the tyres. Or perhaps not. >> >> -Gregor