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Re: N4 and GPL Tracks

6 posts by 5 people · 13 Apr 2000 - 14 Apr 2000 12:34 UTC

Mark F. 13 Apr 2000#278279
What are we even talking about this already for? To my knowledge, papyrus is barely past the pre-alpha stage if not still there, and we still don't know whats going to happen. "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aLmJ4.11305$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Okay, N4 is going to be developed heavily from GPL source, yes? > > If so... could it be possible to take say..... the 'nurburg' track folder > from GPL and put it in the N4 calendar.... and actually have it work? > > If their initial source code is similar, surely it will read in a similar > fasion? the only problems i can intially think of it pit row stalls and
grid > placing, which in GPL is setup with space for only 20 cars (but if this > means we can only race 20 nascar cars, so be it, i'm not complaining!) > > Also possible vice-versa, N4 to GPL, although there is little need, mostof
Quoted text (7 lines)> us have them already from the converters etc. > > Tim Wheatley, > Legends Central, > www.timwheatley.co.uk > >
Tim Wheatley 13 Apr 2000 17:39 UTC#278253
Okay, N4 is going to be developed heavily from GPL source, yes? If so... could it be possible to take say..... the 'nurburg' track folder from GPL and put it in the N4 calendar.... and actually have it work? If their initial source code is similar, surely it will read in a similar fasion? the only problems i can intially think of it pit row stalls and grid placing, which in GPL is setup with space for only 20 cars (but if this means we can only race 20 nascar cars, so be it, i'm not complaining!) Also possible vice-versa, N4 to GPL, although there is little need, most of us have them already from the converters etc. Tim Wheatley, Legends Central, www.timwheatley.co.uk
Tim Wheatley 13 Apr 2000 21:53 UTC#278296
I find it funny people still think that, yeah, they will of sat on their advanced engine doing nothing with it during the production of n3 and n3trk then? I think not :o) Do you not remember the OLD n3 screenshots? (when n3 was supposed to be the one using gpl engine), the shots from watkins glen with the 4 or 5 cars? you don't remember the video? i do, and it was alpha or early beta and that was months ago. remember that to produce tracks is very little compared to refining a physics engine, even if they just had 1 track - if they were happy with the physics, then the engine is well advanced in production. "Mark F." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Stiff one 13 Apr 2000 23:03 UTC#278144
I was thinking the same thing Tim. I hope it is true (being able to swap tracks). You would think they would make it this way not only to sell to the Nascar fans but as a sort of "track pack" for GPL (yea right we are talking about Sierra here!). Good question Tim. Lets keep our fingers crossed......... Al Stiff "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aLmJ4.11305$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Okay, N4 is going to be developed heavily from GPL source, yes? > > If so... could it be possible to take say..... the 'nurburg' track folder > from GPL and put it in the N4 calendar.... and actually have it work? > > If their initial source code is similar, surely it will read in a similar > fasion? the only problems i can intially think of it pit row stalls and
grid > placing, which in GPL is setup with space for only 20 cars (but if this > means we can only race 20 nascar cars, so be it, i'm not complaining!) > > Also possible vice-versa, N4 to GPL, although there is little need, mostof
Quoted text (7 lines)> us have them already from the converters etc. > > Tim Wheatley, > Legends Central, > www.timwheatley.co.uk > >
Stiff one <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hnsJ4.39447$[email hidden]... > I was thinking the same thing Tim. I hope it is true (being able to swap > tracks). You would think they would make it this way not only to sell tothe > Nascar fans but as a sort of "track pack" for GPL (yea right we aretalking > about Sierra here!). > Good question Tim. Lets keep our fingers crossed......... > Al Stiff > > Track pack + new 3DOs + new sounds on one disc. Charge under 20 bucks and move them out like hotcakes. Just don't do anything funny like vintage racing. I'm a vintage fan and would give my two front teeth to drift a Lotus Cortina around, but the market isn't there. Not much work (hell, pay one of the talented 3rd party guys to produce better looking cars than Papy does). Stephen
John Simmons 14 Apr 2000 12:34 UTC#278122
You don't have to change to the GPL track format to get GPL-like physics, and believe me when I say (as a programmer), that a given developer will re-use legacy code as much as humanly possible to cut down the time required for developement, and I imagine that game developers are even more concerned about this aspect. The tracks in N3 are already pretty much as nice (visually) as the ones in GPL. I wouldn't look for Papy to do any extra work to make the tracks "compatible" between the two sims. What would be nice is if Papy/Sierra would license someone to make new carsets for GPL. Papy has already stated the GPL physics engine will be modified for N4, so don't look for identical physics. Also, I'm sure that nascar will have something to say about the "spectacular" aspect of crashes, as they are still rumored to be interested in running an online series, and they probably don't want to over-emphasize the dangerous side of the sport. Of course, everything I've said above is conjecture, and Papy could surprise all of us with what they have planned. In article <hnsJ4.39447$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (27 lines)>I was thinking the same thing Tim. I hope it is true (being able to swap >tracks). You would think they would make it this way not only to sell to >the Nascar fans but as a sort of "track pack" for GPL (yea right we are >talking about Sierra here!). > >Good question Tim. Lets keep our fingers crossed......... >Al Stiff > > >"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:aLmJ4.11305$[email hidden]... >> Okay, N4 is going to be developed heavily from GPL source, yes? >> >> If so... could it be possible to take say..... the 'nurburg' >> track folder from GPL and put it in the N4 calendar.... and >> actually have it work? >> >> If their initial source code is similar, surely it will read >> in a similar fasion? the only problems i can intially think >> of it pit row stalls and grid placing, which in GPL is setup >> with space for only 20 cars (but if this means we can only >> race 20 nascar cars, so be it, i'm not complaining!) >> >> Also possible vice-versa, N4 to GPL, although there is little >> need, most of us have them already from the converters etc. >> >> Tim Wheatley,
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