Re: Practice at the Ring, Real-Life

DLK <[email hidden]> schreef in artikel <_YEJ4.373$[email hidden]>... > In real life, the tire walls that are modelled in GPL right after the > chicane before the start/finish line and at the end of the straightbehind > the pits was opened to allow the cars to warm up. They usually did more than one of these laps to warm the tyres. At least the crowd there has something to see then. > It would be nice if we could do this in GPL. Maybe one of the trackeditors > could remove the tire walls. This could be a problem for people cheating > but it would seen on replays. Its not a problem of removing the walls, but a problem of allowing cars to cut from one section of the track to another. And that's likely to be impossible, due to the way GPL's tracks are defined. You CAN however move your pitstall in GPL to another part of the track, that allows you to have an outlap of about 2 minutes (to warm up the tyres) and then you start your flying lap. Saves you 7 from the 9-minutes outlap.

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> > Struggling to another 8:30 practice lap at the Ring [ignores > > snorts], I was wondering if the real racers had to run a full > > outlap before going on their timed lap, too. > > > > Or did they have tricks like at Pescara? I can imagine using the > > loop of the Sudschleife to return from the straight behind the > > pits to just in front of the start/finish line. > > > > Anyone? > > > > -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion

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> No, they used the loop around the back of the pits to warm up on and then > start a practise lap. Okay, after the left hander behind the pits, go right and go right again on to the finish straight, right? That _is_ the Sudschleife's loop. Unless I misunderstood you, Bruce. -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

Struggling to another 8:30 practice lap at the Ring [ignores snorts], I was wondering if the real racers had to run a full outlap before going on their timed lap, too. Or did they have tricks like at Pescara? I can imagine using the loop of the Sudschleife to return from the straight behind the pits to just in front of the start/finish line. Anyone? -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

In real life, the tire walls that are modelled in GPL right after the chicane before the start/finish line and at the end of the straight behind the pits was opened to allow the cars to warm up. It would be nice if we could do this in GPL. Maybe one of the track editors could remove the tire walls. This could be a problem for people cheating but it would seen on replays. Dave Laurens de Jong <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Struggling to another 8:30 practice lap at the Ring [ignores > snorts], I was wondering if the real racers had to run a full > outlap before going on their timed lap, too. > > Or did they have tricks like at Pescara? I can imagine using the > loop of the Sudschleife to return from the straight behind the > pits to just in front of the start/finish line. > > Anyone? > > -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network

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>Struggling to another 8:30 practice lap at the Ring [ignores >snorts], I was wondering if the real racers had to run a full >outlap before going on their timed lap, too. > >Or did they have tricks like at Pescara? I can imagine using the >loop of the Sudschleife to return from the straight behind the >pits to just in front of the start/finish line. > >Anyone? > >-Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands.

Here is the past post that explained how to move the pits at the Ring. Don From: "�artijn" <[email hidden]> Subject: Re: Wishful thinking but... the solution!!! Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Add these lines to the Nurburg\Track.ini to replace the existing ones. The first part is to let AI's speed up as soon as they cross s/f, otherwise their first full (timed) lap is done in "out-lap" pace which is ~9:30, even for Clark. The second part defines the place of the pitstalls. The distances ("18030") is the distance from s/f, these values give boxes before the 2nd Karusell. If you want them anywhere else, experiment a little. The "-4.3" defines the lateral distance from the center of the track. You don't want the cars to be in the middle of the track, nor outside the fences :-) This is halfway ON the track, half on the grass. Works OK. Ofcourse you can do this on every track, but it's nowhere as useful as on the Ring. ======================================= pit_at_end_of_track = 0 ; 0 if all stalls beyond s/f, 1 if not ======================================== [ pit_lane_0 ] lane_on_right = 1 ; 0 if lane on left, 1 if on right lane_has_wall = 0 ; 0 if no pit wall, 1 if pit wall exists lane_bounds_dlong = 22740.4 253.1 ; start/end dlong of the pit lane lane_bounds_dlat = -11.7 -2.8 ; start/end dlat of the pit lane pit_board = 11.0 1200.0 -100.0 100.0 ; dlat of board, dlong of board, dlong LOS start, dlong LOS end (last 2 not used) stall_0 = 18230.00 -4.30 stall_1 = 18219.47 -4.30 stall_2 = 18208.95 -4.30 stall_3 = 18198.42 -4.30 stall_4 = 18187.89 -4.30 stall_5 = 18177.37 -4.30 stall_6 = 18166.84 -4.30 stall_7 = 18156.32 -4.30 stall_8 = 18145.79 -4.30 stall_9 = 18135.26 -4.30 stall_10 = 18124.74 -4.30 stall_11 = 18114.21 -4.30 stall_12 = 18103.68 -4.30 stall_13 = 18093.16 -4.30 stall_14 = 18082.63 -4.30 stall_15 = 18072.11 -4.30 stall_16 = 18061.58 -4.30 stall_17 = 18051.05 -4.30 stall_18 = 18040.53 -4.30 stall_19 = 18030.00 -4.30

No, they used the loop around the back of the pits to warm up on and then start a practise lap. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Laurens de Jong <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Struggling to another 8:30 practice lap at the Ring [ignores > snorts], I was wondering if the real racers had to run a full > outlap before going on their timed lap, too. > > Or did they have tricks like at Pescara? I can imagine using the > loop of the Sudschleife to return from the straight behind the > pits to just in front of the start/finish line. > > Anyone? > > -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! > >

That's correct, Laurens. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Laurens de Jong <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > No, they used the loop around the back of the pits to warm up on and then > > start a practise lap. > > Okay, after the left hander behind the pits, go right and go right again on > to the finish straight, right? That _is_ the Sudschleife's loop. Unless I > misunderstood you, Bruce. > > -Laurens de Jong, The Netherlands. > >